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Topic: Survey: Women Ditch Stigma, Seek Younger Men
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Lost Leo
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From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 02:40 PM
 
http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/09/29/midlife.survey.ap/index.html Lately maturity & EXPERIENCE has appealed to me FAR MORE than youth & innocence... Cultural trend or is Western society finally LOOSENING UP? IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 03:06 PM
Hmmmmmmmm. Tres tres interesting.I voted 20 years is too much of a difference. 10 might be pushin it, but it would depend on the people involved. It's nice to at least not have to explain every culteral referrence, and/or joke to them. Like, if I were to talk about Morgan Freeman back in the "Electric Company" days, would someone who's under 25 even get that? Then again, I do so love to explain stuff it would seem...hmmm. Double hmmmm. Maybe someone younger might actually be able to keep up with me, because sometimes I think men my age are too damn old for me!  My current, he's 4 years older than me and he goes to bed at like 10:00 for pete sake! I'm rarely in bed before midnight, week days or otherwise. IP: Logged |
trillian
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From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 03:52 PM
It's often so hard to find happiness, that when one does find it, why let something like age be a barrier? As our own dear Linda said, it's only a number...that's why she was so cagey about her own age.And why would anyone else care whom I date, or what his age might be? 
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proxieme
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posted September 29, 2003 03:57 PM
Heck, Jase's almost 3 years younger than me...One question re: the below: • More than twice as many men as women -- 46 percent to 21 percent -- said they had sexual relations with more than one person during the same time period. How could this work? I mean, in real life, not in people's heads. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 04:02 PM
The woman are having sex with each other perhaps? Or the men aren't being honest about it? Or the woman are doing what men USE to do, and embellishing their real numbers ??? Interesting observation, my friend. Mrs. R didn't raise no stupid daughters, that's for sure.
Wait, the men in that survey were in the same age group as the women. So, the difference in ratio probably means the women are gettin jiggy with men YOUNGER than those in the survey. (or older, I s'pose, but not as likely)
Wait, hang on. If one woman is having sex with 2 or 3 guys, she's having it more often than they are, unless they're also having sex with 2 or 3 woman. Hmm. So, what's the more likely scenario? IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
Knowflake Posts: 1877
From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 04:11 PM
Maybe it's the environment here in Southern California... but it's VERY common to come across a lady juggling three dudes at once, sleeping with all of them... no sweat!Dudes perhaps... will sleep with 3 women, but two of them just once or twice *adds notch to bed* but will have one long-termer they consistly sleep with... Perhaps its cause sex is power and these women enjoy power over more men... I dunno?!?  IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted September 29, 2003 04:15 PM
Naw, lioneye, that said that it's the men who are claiming more than 2x as much to have more than one sexual partner in a given timeframe...but, still, good point:
it could have to do w/ "trans-generational" relations (with the question then popping-up, "Well, I wonder what a 20-30-something year-olds survey would look like..."), or perhaps even with the time period used if that wasn't specified precisely, or the parameters for "sexual contact" if not adequately layed-out (no pun intended), or - heh - any number of things, really.That's why I hate statistics, especially if they're presented in a format that doesn't show and explain the exact procedures used to collect them. *shrugs* *edit*
Or it could be what LostLeo said. *shrugs again* IP: Logged |
pidaua
Knowflake Posts: 7314
From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 04:19 PM
LOL...well, until I married my ex, I was always dating men that were younger than me. I was just always attracted to younger men and I don't see anything wrong with dating or being with a guy that is 5-10 years younger than you provided you all have the same goals. What would be unfair is for a younger man whoe wants a family to be with an older woman that cannot or does not want kids. (But that is the same regardless of age). In the same respect, I think it's a little weird to see a 20 year or more age gap between an older man and younger woman. Regardless of what one says, age does play into things at some point. My ex was 16 years older than me (Virgo's do like younger women). We had so much in common with the exception of pop culture. I mean, he talks about being a teen in the 60's. I wasn't even a twinkle in my mama or papa's eyes at that time. LOL....Well, maybe in 1969 when I was conceived and then born. LOL
So, I do dig younger dudes.
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proxieme
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posted September 29, 2003 04:26 PM
As for the more likely scenario...
 <--to clarify, that is a "Der" face
I have no idea.I'm inclined to be rather Fishy and say that it depends. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 04:29 PM
Me too Pid & I married one. Nine years November & still going strong.  juniperb 
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pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 29, 2003 04:30 PM
I always thought I'd be a total cougar (just recently learned what that term meant) But I guess it would be hard to do when you happen to be married. *MILF* sounds enticing to me too. It has got to be hard though. In your 20's and 30's, you have all these incredible hormones, and depending on the person, experimentation, comfort in your growing sexuality. BUT, you also have work, and building your reputation, children, a relationship, friends, experiences to put under your belt. So all the potential for great sex kind of goes out the window, because your time is eaten up by all the other demands in your life. I am gonna' love being in my forties, simply because I will be able to relax finally, and still be young enough to enjoy sex....maybe even with a new perspective (and new techniques!)After 25 years of practice, man, you KNOW it's gotta' be good! So if i decide I want to educate a younger man in the process, so be it! I wonder how the climate's going to be then? Strange thought.IP: Logged |
pidaua
Knowflake Posts: 7314
From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 04:41 PM
I don't know what the climate will be like when I am in my 40's. I don't have kids yet and I am totally enjoying my 30's so far. I went the school / career route first and will do the kid / family thing later. If my eggs hold out that long. LOL (Just kidding)What is a cougar? Juniperb - Congratulations. Hmmmm, I might have to shop for a younger dude after all. LOL IP: Logged |
FishKitten
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From: on the trail of the Old Ones
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 05:09 PM
Oh yes...younger men are definitely the ticket. Pid - a cougar is a woman who likes younger men, so I guess I should have called myself FishCougar. My present mate is 9 years younger than I and we have been together for almost 10 years. I think I like it because it shakes up the "traditional" expectations one has in a relationship right from the start, so there is a lot of freedom for exploring individual interests. Also he never expects me to wash his socks. A definite plus!IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 29, 2003 05:11 PM
I am actually curious to see Lost Leo's idea of what a cougar is.....his interpretation will be funnier than mine. I started WAY early It was right for me at the time, I was in love, and now I am almost 27, and I have an eight, almost NINE year old!!!! But I also have a three year old (almost) to balance it all out. It worked out fine for me, but I'll bet you will have the mommy advantage, when it comes to money and prestige, plenty of people find success either way, to each their own. I mean, i get to put my feet up and retire early (I hope!) Knowing my kids will look out for themselves, and I can enjoy the rest of my life. But at the same time, I am at the point in my life where most people START thinking about making babies, settling down, etc. And I've been doing it for so long, I don't know if it's even where I should be anymore. I love them dearly of course, and now i incorporate them into everything i do. big subject anyway.I could go on and on.IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
Knowflake Posts: 1877
From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 05:21 PM
As for the age thing... it don't matter so long you're gettin off, right?I mean... COME ON... the relationship between an older woman and younger man... usually... is one based on sex... C'mon... you know it, these women who have matured to Fine-Wine Status...
Looking for some good ol' Young-Buck, energetic & full of vigor, to bounce them off the walls... I don't blame them, sh*t the alternative... wrinkly-sweaty-old-two-pump-chump men... funk dat! On another thread somewhere didn't some Insightful Soul say that women FINALLY become comfortable outwardly with their sexuality aroung their late 20s...? Anyways... alls I know... is I shot a straight-up "Yeah, you wanna" look at this Fine 30-something at my work... and she's been hounding me for attention since... trying to get me drunk-as-f**k at company parties... Scares me...  But the tease and delaying it only makes it better, right?  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 6062
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 05:33 PM
Question: What's a sure-shot formula for job stress?Answer: Having a "thingee" with someone you work with.
IMHO
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juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 05:50 PM
Whoa L.L., Methings you`re shortchanging the man here  A man in his 20/30`s can be an excellent conversationlist, have warm feet and have goals the same as the older woman. Sheesh, sex isn`t good for all 24 hours of a day but a good man is .
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pidaua
Knowflake Posts: 7314
From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL
Registered: May 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 06:06 PM
Ummm Lost Leo, I guess some people would look at it like that. Maybe I am just not one of them. I would rather be able to communicate with someone than just fu*k them. My Leo dude is about 5 months older than I am and I don't see any problem with him keeping up with me - and he has the power of control..to wait for me. Then again, I remember being 18 with a fellow sag that couldn't keep up with me, but he was fine for about 15 minutes. For myself, I couldn't see myself "trolling" for young men just to get some kind of sexual kick. But then again, when I am 40 or 50 we'll have to see about that. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 06:59 PM
Yeah, no.The day I hook up with someone just for sex is the day I hire me a man-Wh0re . Never gonna happen. No, it would still be within a committed, monogamous relationship. I'd have to be able to relate to him, laugh with him, respect him, admire him. Only then would I grow to desire him as well. That's how it would have to work...regardless of age. See, he'd have to be exceptional in other ways to help me overlook his age because that certainly wouldn't be a drawing factor.
That's no better than being with a dude just because he's rich...or powerful...or whatevah! Alas, I'm just a romantic fool, I KNOW!!  two-pump-chump (isn't that a YOUNG dude problem? ) IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted September 29, 2003 07:47 PM
Man WH*re , man-gina....HA HA. ...I love when silly movie lingo becomes pop-culture!!
* Man-Gina* HA!!!IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
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From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 08:22 PM
Well... quite possibly...Usually it has to do with the older woman seeing if she "can get" the younger man still... IP: Logged |
Lost Leo
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From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 08:25 PM
Methinks I may be a little too liberal to speak so openly... Some people don't like truth exposed... Come on ladies, don't let society repress you... speak freely... IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 29, 2003 08:37 PM
Well, I think the getting part is easy. Personally, I'd be more concerned about keeping him, over the long haul that is. Looks fade. On both sides. Eventually, we all grow old. People need to love each other mostly on the inside to truly be happy in love. And why would someone want anything less? Anything else is extremely conditional love and therefore, not really love at all.
Heck, I coulda jumped our ex buyer/planner who was 12 years younger than me. He made it perfectly clear that he had no problem with the age difference. He was tempting too, very much a go-getter Aries, very athletic, pretty handsome, and all that stuff. BUT...I dunno. I could't see it being more than physical, which isn't enough. But...yeah, he was awefully tempting. I would never go out with him even just as freinds because I worried about the alcohol factor. Ah, and then there was our 19 year old shipper who actually told our manager that he wanted to jump me "just once". Oh, no sweetie. No such thing.
Thing is, I don't mess around. I play for keeps. And I couldn't bare being discarded because I was starting to look "passed my due date". That's probably why I'd be hard to convince to date a much younger man. It's like sticking your own head in a guillitine. (or heart, really)
But that's just me. I can't speak for anyone other than myself.
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Lost Leo
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From: CA
Registered: Sep 2002
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posted September 29, 2003 09:12 PM
makes sense to me IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted September 30, 2003 12:23 AM
hmm. I think I would if I believed I could trust him.  IP: Logged |
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