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proxieme
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posted November 14, 2003 11:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Just got caught in school w/ pot...
while selling pot to another kid.

He will most likely get both charged and expelled (esp. since he was selling on school property - with a prior record of possession on school property from back when he was in the 8th grade - classified as a "drug-free zone" and carrying stiffer penalties for infractions).
He may be facing some time in juvenile detention, and he'll definitely have probabation, etc...ach! Probably the former rather than the latter because of his prior.

Pray for him, send him light, etc. -
mostly so my Mother doesn't kill him...
OK, also so this doesn't completely mangle his chances for graduation, et al.

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proxieme
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posted November 14, 2003 11:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm gonna go down there because my dad can't right now as soon as my Mom talks to the lawyer who got his penalties reduced last time.

Run-on sentences can be fun.

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proxieme
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posted November 14, 2003 11:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Here's his chart if...
I dunno, if any of ya'll have any insight on what we/I can do to help:


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Harpyr
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posted November 14, 2003 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
aww man, that sucks.
With that loaded 12th house, I can see where his facination with mind altering substances comes from.. he needs to be verry careful with such things. Which I'm sure you already know and is certainly the last thing a sixteen year old wants to hear.
Beaming love and light your way!

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trillian
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posted November 14, 2003 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Well prox, I think it would take a Pisces like yourself to understand and empathize with him, with all that 12th house activity.

I'm sorry for your families troubles, sending loads of light. Pity that a child has to worry about his future over one of God/dess's little green plants.

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proxieme
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posted November 14, 2003 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Luckily (I s'pose) he's surrounded by us Fish -
his Mom, Step-Mom, and eldest Sis are all in the club.

He may get charged w/ a federal offence b/c it was on school property; they must clarify the amount that he had b/f we know for sure. Anyhoo, they could've hauled him off right there, but they remanded him to our Mom's custody. He's going up to our Pop's this weekend, but he doesn't usually pick him up until later in the day. Since my Mom has to get back to work (payroll) but doesn't want to leave him to his own devices, she's dropping him off at my work (about 15 minutes away from her job) so that our Pop can pick him up from there -
I get to be their intermediary as they can't communicate with one another in anything approaching a civil manner.

Aannyhoo.

Continue to wish him luck.
He's going to need it. Like I said, he will be expelled which'll mean that his next option will be "Turning Point", the "alternative school" in the area; that's where my sister dropped out from.
Its record doesn't impress me.


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FishKitten
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posted November 14, 2003 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
So sorry for your family trouble, Prox. It's tough for teenagers to go through that stuff.

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Harpyr
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posted November 14, 2003 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
yeah..that's rough.
All too often, the lessons we choose for ourself can be some of the most difficult in the teenage years.

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pixelpixie
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posted November 14, 2003 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Proxy, that is really something! I am sorry that he couldn't have conducted his 'business' in a smarter position. I'm sure school is convenient, but I guess a sixteen year old truly doesn't often factor consequences in when doing something deemed illegal. It is sad that Cannabis is classified in the whole 'war on drugs' category. I mean, you can totally be sidetracked by it, but it is by no means even half as bad as alcohol, as far as that goes, I hope his penalty is a small one, but teaches him, if you are going to live by your own rules, more power to you, but do it somewhere the rules aren't a factor. Damn!!! I wish you love and light, and I think your brother is wise enough to grow beyond this. I hope you are a positive influence on him. He will be an easily lead, yet strong person, His cappy influence must ground him a little amidst all the fantasy and escapism tendancies. I hope everything turns out not so harshly. I don't know about U.S., but marijuana laws are becoming more flexible in Canada. They have ammended recent rulings though, It was apparently legal for a while ( in small personal use amounts) I hope ya'll have similar thinking there, it's just, the school property thing sounds pretty major

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proxieme
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posted November 18, 2003 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I try to be a good influence on him; once I found out that he regularly smokes pot, I continually pointed out to him the addictive behaviors that run in our family (and while you can't get physcially addicted to marijuana, I firmly hold that you can get psychologically so), and that's it's never wise for anyone in our fam to traffic in potentially addictive substances.
He was in my office when Jason got the surprise chance to call on Friday, and my husband, the anti-drug, gave him a good 10 minute talking to, too.

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majenta
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posted November 18, 2003 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for majenta     Edit/Delete Message
My advice as someone his age is try not to lecture him. At all. Just listen and understand. It is the best thing you could do for him I feel. So many people will be telling him this and that until he near goes insane from hearing how he 'done wrong'. He just needs love and support now as he will be feeling confused and maybe p'd off at the same time. Please just be there for him and urge your mum and dad to go easy. I'm sure he has been through enough now and just needs some understanding. The thing with us teens is, once you start saying 'dont do this, dont do that' we strive to do exactly what you are warning against.

Pointing out a history of substance abuse may even make him feel as though he's doomed anyway so he might as well keep going.

Try talking about other stuff. Stuff he enjoys, stuff that makes him happy. Show him he has an ally in you. It will make things so much easier.

I hope I have not over stepped the mark with my opinion as I sometimes do. For your brothers sake, I just needed to say all that

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proxieme
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posted November 18, 2003 07:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Naw, not at all - that's what I've been trying to do, actually.
But I have, and will continue to, point out to him the problems in our family (roughly half the males on both sides are alchoholic, and our mother gets very...titchy...without marijuana & is dating a felon, our dad's very much an alchoholic, etc.).

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majenta
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posted November 18, 2003 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for majenta     Edit/Delete Message
Cool. I wish you heaps of luck with it. Remind him too of his upcoming role model responsibilities

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proxieme
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posted November 18, 2003 08:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yep, I think that that's what Jase was doing (although he does have a wee bit more of a tendency to preach on these kinds of issues than I do).

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pixelpixie
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posted November 26, 2003 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
So Prox, do you have anything here to update? Is your bro okay?

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proxieme
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posted November 26, 2003 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message
He's dealing, kinda.
They still haven't served the warrant (the wheels of justice...), and my Mom's slogging through getting him into Alt. Ed.
Truth be told, he's kinda p*ssing me off because he's acting like nothing's happened.

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trillian
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posted November 26, 2003 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
for you and your family...

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lioneye68
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posted November 26, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Ya can't live their lives for them, younger siblings that is. All ya can do is try to lead by example, and hope they eventually get it together.

Every family seems to have 1 problem child in it. Here's an for him, and one for your own troubled heart Prox.

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proxieme
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posted November 26, 2003 11:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Thankya for your concern and help, ya'll.

I promise that things aren't as dire as these past few posts of mine may make them out to be (I feel like such a drama queen ).

Lioneye - Bah, but we already have muh sis! They're both good kids, really, they're just surrounded by some bad behavior and circumstances and've not quite gotten the hang of not picking up on that stuff.
Aanyway, I'd better get ready for dinner at my Mom's.

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