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Randall
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posted May 27, 2004 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Most of you already know this, but I just thought I'd share some info on soft drinks. I'm not saying we should quit them completely, but just to cut back. Carbonated beverages cause erosion of tooth enamel. This isn't the same as decay. Erosion is like melting away layers of enamel, so that (over time) teeth become weak and brittle. It is also no accident that soft drink consumption has increased in the US, and so has obesity. Phosphoric acid increases the acidity in the body, and the body has to use fat to insulate and protect healthy cells. Phosphoric acid is deadly to the human body. We need a proportionate amount of calcium, magnesium, and phosphorous to have healthy bones. The problem is that many processed foods are high in phosphorous. We get more than enough. Soft drinks are so high in phosphoric acid that only ten ounces raise the pH levels through the roof. If high pH is maintained for very long, the human body shuts down (in other words, we die). So, in order to compensate, the body leeches calcium from the bones to neutralize the acidity created by cola. Not a good thing. I love cola myself, but it would be a very good thing for us to cut down. High pH levels manifest in many serious illnesses (some would say all sickness can be traced to the acidity of the body), but the main thing that's most common is acne.

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juniperb
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posted May 27, 2004 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
>>>> Or lotsa Cokes and a gummy smile

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paras
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posted May 28, 2004 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Good information, Randall, thank you!

I hardly ever drink carbonated beverages, so thankfully I will not have to worry about my calcium from that perspective. But I do drink a LOT of coffee. Since you seem pretty knowledgeable about health in general, Randall, can you tell me anything about the effects of coffee on the body?

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pixelpixie
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posted May 28, 2004 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
*hands shake on the keyboard, chronically under-rested, loves the creamy tasty hot coffee in the largest size possible and mourns the last sweet drop on her lips..... MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm......*

Yes.. please do tell.

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Xelena Ben
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posted May 28, 2004 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, randall, for the great info!

so how does that argument go over down in georgia? i have a cousin from alabama and they used to drink coke for breakfast!

i used to use the old tooth dissolving argument myself, until i ran across an "urban legends" page that refuted it (while doing research for a response to jw in GU ) -
i'd also be really surprised if Big Gulps didn't have any connection to the soaring rates of early onset diabetes in this country.

so, carbonated beverages... does that include, say, Perrier or Pelegrino?

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Nackie
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posted May 28, 2004 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nackie     Edit/Delete Message
No, it's the phosphoric acid in colas that cause the erosion. As far as I know, only colas have phosphoric acid, not other pops (fanta, sprite etc), but beware of the sugar!!

Pelegrino and Perrier are naturally lightly carbonated (meaning, the water source actually has natural carbonation in it), it's not added after filling.

HTH
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posted May 28, 2004 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
*holds her cup of coffee like a baby on her lap while typing with one hand*

Coffee is acidifying as well. Let me dig up the link that Randal posted a while ago.

BTW Mehates soft drinks!

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posted May 28, 2004 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Randall, help, I can't find it! It is somewhere in Health and Healing.

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Xelena Ben
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posted May 28, 2004 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, nackie! whew!!!

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posted May 28, 2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
yeah I drink that sugar water maybe once in a blue moon.
It's freaky to think that some people drink this stuff at every meal of every day. *shudder*

And the fact that it's marketed to children is utterly repugnant. I don't think anything that isn't healthy should be allowed to be marketed to children.

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posted May 28, 2004 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, beware the sugar, but even worse, beware the aspartame.

Lots of threads and debates about that stuff in H& H.

And let's not forget that soda is loaded with sodium. Despite advertising, it's impossible for soda to quench your thirst. No, it's designed to be insidious--it will increase your thirst, so you will in turn drink more.

Very rare that I drink a soda. Water, vegetable and fresh fruit juices...and...um...adult beverages.

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Nephthys
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posted May 28, 2004 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I agree one shouldn't drink any soda's at all, even diet ones, which are probably worse. Who wants to drink chemicals? Coke supposedly has 16 teaspoons of sugar in one can.

My soda-replacement drink of choice is Crystal Geyser Juice Squeeze. It has *NO* sugar, real fruit juice, and carbonation. It is very yummy, especially the passion fruit and mango.

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posted May 28, 2004 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I love coffee ..I don't drink alot of soda, maybe one a week - but I do drink tons of water.

If coffee was a man..I would marry it...LOL...

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Xelena Ben
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posted May 28, 2004 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
pidaua i heartily agree - you'd have to fight me for him!

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pixelpixie
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posted May 28, 2004 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Me too... can't we all agree to have an open relationship?
If it means I can have him, I'd happily take turns.
Not a pop drinker myself. I prefer hot drinks, even in the heat. ( Like a cat, can never be warm enough!)

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Yang
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posted May 28, 2004 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Just to add some facts here.
Did you know that a can of coke sinks in water while a can of diet coke floats?All because of the sugar in coke.
Interesting hey?

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posted May 28, 2004 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Sometimes we need to live a little. I love eating pizza and drinking coca-cola together.

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Randall
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posted May 28, 2004 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Me, too!

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posted May 28, 2004 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I like a good Rum and Coke

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Randall
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posted May 28, 2004 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Not sure about coffee. I don't drink it, because I don't like the taste.

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Xelena Ben
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posted May 28, 2004 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
okay then , randall, you don't have to be a part of our coffee-man marriage - Utah-style!

mmmm - think i'll have pizza tonight. thanks guys!

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posted May 28, 2004 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for purplezen     Edit/Delete Message
I can't eat pizza without my pepsi Luckily I rarely drink soda so I can splurge when I eat pizza

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posted May 28, 2004 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
ok, I will concede there is something really yummy about the combination of pizza and soda. That's when my rare indulgence of the soda thing usually happens.

My preferred soda for those occasions is usually Blue Sky ginger ale, though. I don't feel so guilty about supporting some vile corporation like Coke then.

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posted May 28, 2004 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I agree - Coffee is an open relationship - we can ALL share him..hee hee

I like Pizza and beer together

Oh yeah, and I also love dipping French fries into a chocolate shake and kosher pickles on a peanut butter sandwich. LOL...no, I am not pregnant.

You think that is odd? Mr. Tuarus was telling me that one of this favorites sandwiches was peanut butter, mayonaise and banana - and if he has bacon he adds that too? Is that a Southern thing? He is from North Carolina. LOL

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Harpyr
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posted May 29, 2004 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
wow pidaua,
You think frenchfries and chocolate milkshakes are heavenly too??
Glad to know I'm not the only one!

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