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Aphrodite
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posted June 01, 2004 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Digital cameras have processors. Here's an excerpt I read today:

"For most users, who didn't use the processor's floating-point unit very often, and didn't need accuracy to fifteen significant figures when they did, the answer was almost never. At the rate that the average Pentium owner used the floating-power unit, the Intel engineers calculated, wrong answers would come up about once every twenty-seven thousand years. The vast majority of PCs containing the flawed Pentium chips would be scrapped long before then. Memory chips had a mean time between failure, or MTBF, of about seven hundred years, and the Pentium chip itself had an MTBF of only about two hundred years.

But what about people who took real advantage of the Pentium's floating-point calculation facilities? Some of these were graphic designers and typographers using software packages like PhotoShop; for them, the bug would only be likely to produce one pixel wrong out of hundreds of thousands or millions. The result would be no more worse than a single misplaced dot in a photo or a page of text. They they could even see the dot on the page, most people would attribute it to a speck of dust on a printing plate and forget it."

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lioneye68
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posted June 02, 2004 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
How is this related to orbs, Amy? I don't get it.

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Ra
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posted June 02, 2004 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Aphrodite

I don't know about that explanation. It could explain some photos, but orbs like the one's in Amber's pictures take more space than one pixel.

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trillian
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posted June 02, 2004 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
The company I work for put on a very large outdoor September 11th Memorial on the first anniversary.

Towards the end of the event the sun had set, and there was very little light. During a 'parade' of those in the armed forces in front of the stage, several of the photos contained not only orbs, but orbs in red white and blue. Mistake? Dust specs? Unknown.

I love the mystery of the orbs!

And I'll have to see if I can find those photos and post them in our photo shop here at LL.

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Jazzebel
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posted June 02, 2004 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jazzebel     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, Aphrodite...that sounds reasonable. I personaly never ever assumed the orbs are gosts or gnoms or whatever else mysterious and I am sure there is some techinacal explaination to it, just like the explenation you gave above. OH sigh

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trillian
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posted June 02, 2004 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Jazz, I too believe there may be a sientific explanation to the Orbs...but, I still like the mystery.

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BloodRedMoon
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posted June 02, 2004 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I just woke up so maybe that's why it doesn't make any sense to me One dot, though.... That seems like it would be incredibly small.

Here's Hunter's orb.. http://glamourjunkies.com/hunter/huntorb012204cropsm.jpg http://glamourjunkies.com/hunter/huntorb012204asm.jpg http://glamourjunkies.com/hunter/huntorb012103asm.jpg http://glamourjunkies.com/hunter/orbshunt020503f.jpg http://glamourjunkies.com/hunter/huntorb042104.jpg

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Aphrodite
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posted June 02, 2004 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya All,

The excerpt above references mathematical errors Intel's Pentium chip had back in the 90s. ALL processors have bugs because there are at least 100 engineers working on a chip simultaneously with millions of transistors. Then the chip has to go to the fab facility, which increases the likelihood of bugs for a variety of reasons (i.e., radiation, material science, chemical reactions, heat).

Imaging chips are similar in that regard. In addition, the images' colors, dimensions, and depths are mathematical representations of "halfs" to get them into digital form, i.e., binary numbers. This is to standardize input and facilitate easier movements and readings of electrons.

In theory, there are 7 layers to technology, from the basic 1s and 0s to the application layer we see on the computer screen. Bugs occur between layers and do produce unintendend variances in the application form.

Hope this helps clarify. Below is a picture of an outdated high-end image chip:

Aph.

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pixelpixie
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posted June 02, 2004 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
If any of you have the mistaken impression I am smart, let me clarify it right now for you.. this is what your statement looked like to me, Aphrodite~

"Blah blah blah blah blah blah, Chips. Blah blah blah blah Technology. Layers. Colors. Yada yada yada yada yada, Engineers. Bugs. Blah yada yada blah blah blabber blah Movements."


I am soooooo not savvy.

So, The chips have layers that are colored (yum) and the engineers found bugs moving in the technology. (neat)
That's how you get orbs.

Orbs are perty. Yep. 0_o

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Aphrodite
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posted June 02, 2004 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Pixie,

You know you are a smart lady.

Amy

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trillian
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posted June 02, 2004 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Pixie,
Ditto Aphrodite.

And you had me laughing!

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BloodRedMoon
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posted June 02, 2004 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
bwuahahahaaa pixelpixie!! You have the balls to say what I can't. I am smart in some areas but I can't make heads or tails of this thread. O_o

Utmost respect for Aphrodite for getting it, though!

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pixelpixie
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posted June 02, 2004 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

Yes!!
Props for Aphrodite!!!
No, I wasn't fishing for some love, but thanks for it, nonetheless...
I was just flexing my Uranus. (eeeeeewwww! That sounded better in my head)

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lioneye68
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posted June 03, 2004 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Aph, that explaination doesn't satisfy the questions of why do the orbs show up in one picture, then not the next, taken with the same camera on the same day? Why the inconsistant nature of their appearence if they are due to a defect? And why are they known to be more prominant in places known to be spiritually charged? That blurb wasn't an explaination for orbs, it was just some vague summery about processers having defects sometimes.
That's like explaining ghosts by saying people are delusional sometimes.
I dunno, I like to think we're starting to invent extremely sensitive instruments in this technological booming age, and our digital cameras just may be capturing a form of energy not visible to the naked eye. Could be. Who knows? The idea entertains my imagination, you know?

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BloodRedMoon
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posted June 03, 2004 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
True, lioneye.

There was one spot in my old apartment where I'd always get orbs. And orbs show up in pics with HUnter quite often. It would seem strange that the same camera taking a picture of another place or another person wouldn't have those things.

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Ra
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posted June 03, 2004 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Bingo lioneye

... and Amber

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lioneye68
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posted June 04, 2004 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Amber, I've seen your orb pictures with Hunter...he seems to have alot of pictures with orbs in them, doesn't he?

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