posted June 08, 2004 11:09 PM         

Are objects or things benign? I haven't contemplated that enough yet. Can a thing be singularly'good' or 'bad?'

Is a gun in and of itself 'bad?' It is a machine designed for one thing only: to kill. Is killing bad? Oh don't even get me started!

What do the lexigrams tell us about alcohol? Not much. All I find in English (the only language in which lexigramming works, according to Linda), is "All Cool," or "All Cool Halo." Cool. Angels must drink.

I don't think you're a mindless follower, paras. But you implied that if one doesn't follow Linda's books/learnings/teachings to the letter, why would one want to be here?

We can continue to argue till we're blue in the face. I'd rather live, love, drink a beer now and then, and not worry about it so much.

Peace, brother.

posted June 09, 2004 03:45 AM         

Have been reading all these posts here and love how you feel and think about all the things you talk about. You have come far with all your learning and lessons in life. Sounds like you have had a very challenging life to learn from.

I have had a life time of Drunks and pain in my life to last me a life time also and feel it has caused nothing but pain. One way for man to drowned his sorrows or not feel whats really going on around them.

So I choice not to drink, but found myself smoking alittle from time to time to just get though sometimes and really lead myself to believe that I needed it to pass away some of the things in life that I didn't want to feel.(numb but, not dumb)

It really brought me to a point in life when,I couldn't just get stoned and not feel the issues at hand anymore. Things were getting really bad at this time in my life and I know deep down inside that I had to stick with the lessons that I was being taught at that time, but didn't know what to do with so much pain, not just mental,but physical also. It was starting to give me a headache instead and I even tried some pain pills for a few weeks and I've aways been so dead set against pills as a answer also, just to feel or not feel something.

During this time in my life I believe I was learning the symbolic Libra lessons of balance. To allow myself to truly feel and not get so caught up in others peoples problems, NOT MY PROBLEM. I also feel now that all things negative and positive are here as lessons of balance to teach us the diffence. We sure don't live heaven on earth yet and I do believe in heaven on earth is the big picture. Just one of my soul believes.

I stopped the pills and smoking when I took my last pill on the way home from work one night while driving home I hit a deer on the left side of my car hood. Deer being my animal allie and meaning; That I'm a very compassionate and giving person to others and Mys-elf also. Well I was not feeling this about mys-elf anymore and still had some work to do on my s-elf esteem issues and s-elf confidence. Still I don't know why all this was happening to me and was starting to feel but, feel sorry for mys-elf only. Then the very next day I was cleaning house and rushing around turning to get things done so I could get outside and send some time with my puppy. Well my sister came to the door of the house yelling someone just run over your puppy in the driveway and I had to pull it together at that point and drive out of town to put my puppy down,because it was not looking good at all.
Dog also means to me, loyal to others and also that I should be more loyal to mys-elf, my feelings. I was stoned every day during the summer months with my puppy.

The Libra Lady that I was taking care of was so negative with me and I had gotten to attached and didn't know anymore when my personality ended and her's started. I questioned my s-elf esteem and conpassion for others and this is when the pain really started. She was physically aggressive, verbally also,had a brain injury and didn't feel she needed anyone to care for her, but my job was to stay and care for her. She tried everything to get me out of her one bedroom apartment, but I stick around to see my job and lesson though, for the first time every I asked for some help with a prayer.

Lesson learned and I feel alot more balanced these days. I have brought another puppy into my life and as it turns out, its a Libra puppy that I named Showna, and I feel she has come into my life as a gift and a gentle reminder to be gentle,caring, compassionate and Loyal to my s-elf and to feel.

I feel thats the only reason way we have drugs and alcohol,negative and positive here on earth,is to learn from all opposites and find that balance within. Can't have one without the other. When everthing has it's balance then maybe we will have true peace on earth. Thats what the
symbol means to me, all opposites in perfect harmony and balanced here on earth.

I also feel that we learn many of the same lessons ,but at different times and in many life times. WHEN THE STUDENTS IS READY A TEACHER WILL COME,BUT THE STUDENT HAS TO BE READY! FREE WILL AND CHOICE!

Solane Star

posted June 09, 2004 08:51 AM         

btw, should anyone doubt that I know what alcohol can do, both of my brothers died from a direct link from over-consumption.

Some people die from an over-consumption of food. Food isn't bad.

They made their choices, it was their karma. Is dying bad? How can any of us believe that dying is bad?

posted June 09, 2004 09:44 AM         

paras, look around. There are folks in this thread who relate to you!

posted June 09, 2004 10:09 AM         

paras, i agree showering to cleanse the aura is great - sage smudging works well for me, too, and rinsing the hands in cold water. negativity exists, is at least one half the light, so we need to learn to deal with it rather than just push it away - because that often seems to call it in with greater force. we can protect ourselves, and maybe then we can learn from the dark. it's all lessons, right?

i'm glad pidaua posted - she reminded me why i stay here at lindaland even when i get frustrated. i couldn't disagree with her more about politics, and usually i can't even respond to her posts in GU because of that - but we also have many things in common (peanut butter and pickle sandwiches - i thought my mom made that one up ). none of us are flat creatures, and there are aspects of every single knowflake that i love. and some aspects i dislike, though those are far more rare.

i hope you stick around. i'm married to a libra... so perhaps you are in a downswing and will be up again soon

know that we will be here for you wherever you find yourself on the pendulum of life.

peace,

posted June 09, 2004 10:40 AM         

I am sorry for you paras, because you sought to look only at what you thought applied to you and discounted everything else. You fail to see the beauty in everything that surrounds you unless you have defined it as beauty.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. You are also entitled to choose not to post on this thread in reponse to what we say. Maybe I am just the kind of person that feels when one starts something they have a responsibility to continue the education by responding to others.

Good luck in the future

posted June 09, 2004 10:45 PM         

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Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. You are also entitled to choose not to post on this thread in reponse to what we say. Maybe I am just the kind of person that feels when one starts something they have a responsibility to continue the education by responding to others.

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Pixelpixie, nice try, but... do you know the difference between ethyl and methyl? www.google.com

Solane Star: nice to meet you! And thank you for sharing. Regarding your Libra lady, I was in a similar situation recently. Up until maybe 3 or 4 months ago I was taking care of a cross-dresser who has aids, hepatitis, and dimentia. She did not think she needed cared for, either. Very trying at times. But I really cared about her, so I put up with it.

Thank you, everyone who has urged me to be more tolerant. I look for concrete answers, things worth believing in, and sometimes it has the tendency to push me toward a black-and-white view of the world. I am aware of it but it is good to have people reminding me.

One thing is still black-and-white to me: alcohol. It is this simple: one can say many bad truths about alcohol, but there are no good truths about it. How much clearer does the evidence have to get??????????? It BLOWS MY LITTLE MIND that people still think it is 'okay'. Obviously, those people base their opinion on their personal wants rather than facts, which is a dangerous way to live.

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But you implied that if one doesn't follow Linda's books/learnings/teachings to the letter, why would one want to be here?

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As for inanimate objects being benign or otherwise: this is a favorite philosophical question of mine, and my answer is that of course an inanimate object has no intrinsic moral quality. (I usually use a knife to make my point, knives have positive purposes as well as negative ones; guns do not.) A knife (or gun) is neither good nor bad; it simply is. It is the intention of the one holding it that is good or bad.

I think you may be right, Xelena Ben, I may have been experiencing a Libran downswing -- or sideways-swing -- and I think it is passing. But really, certain people's posts have been no help at all in getting through it. :P

But on the whole, thank you all for being here. In the end I am glad that Lindaland exists, and glad that you all put up with me.

Love and Light and every good thing, I wish you all.

posted June 09, 2004 10:57 PM         

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In my post I had basically posted my point of view, but paras took it to be aimed at him / her - specifically in regards to a quote.

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posted June 09, 2004 11:14 PM         

Trillian,

Hmmmm, you ask an important question. I am quite biased because I was raised by a Texan dad and Kansan momma. We always had guns around the house and they were always loaded. We did not have toy guns until my brother and I were of age to understand what a gun does. See, most people don't realize that guns are not toys. That once the bullet leaves the barrel it can KILL. I learned to shoot when I was about 6 or 8 because my dad, being in law enforcement, wanted us to understand everything about the weapon he carried to work.

I think it is the parents responsibility to teach the difference between life / death - movies and reality. Anything can be a weapon..paras made the "point" about knives serving a purpose - to cut - but not designed to kill. Then again, we had weapons before we had utensils. It served a purpose once upon a time - to kill.

Paras...I do know the difference between Methyl and Ethyl...I am a chemist

posted June 10, 2004 01:00 AM         

Love To Here From You

posted June 10, 2004 01:34 AM         

Just kidding also!

posted June 10, 2004 01:40 AM         

I sometimes wonder just how close we might just be? Being that you live in Ontario, Canada and me too.

posted June 10, 2004 02:05 AM         

I know I'm a :taurus.

Thanks

Solane Star

posted June 10, 2004 07:58 AM         

My life story reads like a Quentin Tarentino film script. It is so bizarre that I doubt anyone would believe it. I have been everywhere and done everything (well... almost). Want an example? I have had three driving jobs in my life: one was delivering pizza, one was chaffeuring a crack dealer, and one was driving a limousine for a millionaire. I just always seem to find myself in outre situations.

My interests are mostly artistic, psychological, and technological. On the Personality Self-Portrait (has anyone heard of it?) I always score highest on 'Idiosyncratic'. I march to the beat of a different drummer, sustained by my own beliefs despite what the rest of the world may think.

I am somewhat of a hermit lately, as my "life", such as it ever has been, is on severe hiatus for the moment (thank God). I have had enough of dealing with people for a while, and besides my roommate, the internet provides me pretty much all the contact I care to have.

I am just another lost soul wandering through the darkness of physical existence, trying to make sense of it all. What I want most out of life is to learn and understand as much as I possibly can. If I could unravel one or two of the great mysteries, that would make it all worthwhile for me. If I can achieve physical immortality that will certainly help, but first I have a few bad habits to kick (cigarettes, unhealthy food) and some repressed anger to let go of.

My next big adventure (I hope) will be the website I am creating. I am putting a lot into it, and aside from being entertaining and informative in general, it will be a place for me to show off my talents. Hopefully when I can provide some tangible examples of what I am good at I can find people who are willing to commission some of my work.

I do not know what else to say. Are you confused yet? I know I am.

posted June 10, 2004 10:22 AM         

I love Q. T.