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Topic: Photography! (Xelena Ben)
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DeepIYM
Knowflake Posts: 355
From: Colorful Colorado
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted June 18, 2004 02:21 AM
 
You know if you love doing the darkroom work so much, you may find a career in it. People who like darkroom work are often rewarded with good prints. The DarkRoom, to me, is a sacred place in my day were I can find and outlet. Lately though, I have been a little burned out by it, but that's cuz I took this collage class and my teacher gave me a C on my final, because he thought that my panorama, which contained 7 prints, counted as one print and I was 4 prints short of the final's requirements. But no matter. I'm on my feet again, and I decided to shot slide film for a while, see how that goes. AS for super high contrast grainy films... I have to recommend you one. NEOPAN 1600 ASA by Fuji Film has to be the VERY Best. It's a hard find though. The film is phenomenal. If you ever get the chance to shot it. Please by all means DO. Tell me about your photos. Please.Randall III IP: Logged |
Xelena Ben
Knowflake Posts: 263
From: New England
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted June 18, 2004 02:14 PM
hey deep - ASA 1600??? wow. what sort of lighting do you use with that? i've tended to go for kodak over fuji - fuji film comes out a bit too green for me. is the NEOPAN 1600 a black/white?
you're getting me psyched to be a shutterbug again, even if i don't develop them myself. actually, i've seen some gorgeous digital cameras that were more manual than i would've expected - i like the thought of being able to easily discard the ones that don't grab me.
the only pictures i've taken recently have been while traveling. my two favorites are both brightly colored - one of koi fish and one of a cab in front of neon signs at night in hong kong. i should really take more shots, but i don't like the camera slung around my neck and unless it hangs there life happens too quickly to dig it out... excuses excuses 
i like that you consider the DarkRoom sacred - it does feel like a sacred act burning the images onto a pure white sheet of paper - so magical!
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Xelena Ben
Knowflake Posts: 263
From: New England
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted June 18, 2004 02:17 PM
oh, and that's absolutely nuts about your final - numbers over creativity! that's a great way to teach!  i'm glad you're on your feet again (those handstands can be a bi*%#)  
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DeepIYM
Knowflake Posts: 355
From: Colorful Colorado
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted June 18, 2004 07:25 PM
Oh Xelena Ben, I'll tell you what, that film... Holy crap, it is so awesome. A very high contrast film that is very very versatile in most every situation. I use it during the day light, I use it with a red filter, I use it in a boat, and in a moat, and with a goat. It is a black and white film. that picture of the first poem... with the man looking at the light. So think those kind of results. It was a little blurry at a 30th of a second shutter speed. but that's the thing you can't tell because the grain is so VERY dramatic! It's a wonderful film esp. if you like extremes. I like extremes. Neopan 1600 asa The other film I use, and it is probably the most difficult black and white film to use, besides HIE (high speed infrared), is Technical Pan 25 ASA film. Very tricky to develop. You can control the contrast, Plus even though it’s 25 ASA you can push it to 400 speed! At least that’s as far as I’ve heard… maybe even farther. It is crazy filmYou know… I’m not much for double exposure. I’ve just never found it to be appealing to my tastes, unless it’s very well done. I’ve seen a few that I liked. But they have to mean something. Most the time I find them to chaotic, know what I mean. I like harmony in my pictures. Sometimes my pictures become very supernatural. It’s strange. But only every now and then will I come across something extraordinary, say once every 50 rolls. As for excuses.
Just get used to carrying a camera, it helps. I’ll explain why you got it EASY… Ansle Atoms… He had to carry an 8x10 camera around… like 30 pound camera with glass plates as negatives. Me? I carry around an old (80’s) Nikon FE2 with a motor drive, sometimes I get carried away and lug my 300mm around and a 7 pound med. format camera that takes 2 ¼in square negs. And I thought I was getting dispassionate. Hah Randall III Ps. Fuji’s film is much more technically advanced. Yes, I know they are a very saturated cool toned film, Kodak is much better with people’s skin tones and warmer tones.
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juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted June 18, 2004 07:27 PM
So, Randall III, lets see some photographs  ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted June 18, 2004 07:35 PM
*dittos juniperb*
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Xelena Ben
Knowflake Posts: 263
From: New England
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted June 23, 2004 10:20 AM
deep, wow. inspiration - and technical advice, too! (which i'm still trying to digest...) - i may just give the 1600 a try - thanks for the red filter suggestion.look forward to seeing more of your work! IP: Logged |
stormee
Knowflake Posts: 4
From: Marshfield, MO, USA
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted July 29, 2004 02:11 AM
i agree about the color of fuji films. I am not a photographer but used to work at a lab and a GOOD lab can adjust those colors to your liking. Fuji is a much better quality of film over-all, but Kodak skin tones are more natural. Deep is right, Fuji's green/blue tones are an over-saturation of color but that can be adjusted by someone who knows how and cares enough to give you what you wantIP: Logged |
DeepIYM
Knowflake Posts: 355
From: Colorful Colorado
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted August 02, 2004 03:30 PM
Stormee. I didn't know that you used to work at a color lab. That's cool. Good observation. I think that fuji film just has a tighter grain and usally produces better tones and if color: hues. Stormee. My computer crashed the other day. My hard drive went kaput... 4 hours later from the time I started to install anther one to the time I couldn't stop cursing at the thing for being so difficult I had a new hard drive. So if you would like to talk I'll be on now. Randall III IP: Logged |
stormee
Knowflake Posts: 4
From: Marshfield, MO, USA
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted August 06, 2004 10:33 PM
so sorry about your computer, deep. hope you got things running again now. yes, I used to work in a very large color lab, my job was to adjust and correct the colors in wedding and sports pics. very interesting work, but once I did not agree with the business practices of the company. I did love working with the colors and turning the negative (image) into a positive one! I know that you understand this!IP: Logged |
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