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paras Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: the Heart of It All Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 07:26 AM
Yesterday a friend replied, to something I had asked, "Because I was raised that way."And I thought, how sad... he seems proud of the fact that he is the product of other people's ideas. IP: Logged |
babylonphoenix Knowflake Posts: 57 From: hell Registered: Apr 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 09:46 AM
we are all different,it is easy to lose the way.since we are here to learn more about ourself ,we understand more.others just trying to fit in hard. para ,I am happy that you had found your way.many people were not that lucky to has the opportunity to realize what is missing in their life.IP: Logged |
Special Knowflake Posts: 421 From: Another timezone Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 09:47 AM
Hey paras, yeah, I'm not sure how to respond to that.. it's a tough one which could bring up conflicting, sometimes controversial thoughts and topics. I always wondered, how much is down to being 'raised' in a certain way and how much is down to star / moon / rising signs / numerology / names etc. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/star.gif) Interesting, yeah.. it's possibly the hypodermic syringe theory, as most things filter through the general subconscious and sometimes what you're told repeatedly as a child become your own belief systems. I guess that's down to what kinda person you are, as to whether you feel comfortable with sticking to it, or exploring new ideas to recreate yourself? It is sad, however when people close their third eye shut tight. I'm don't know what you're friend was talking in relation to so I couldn't possibly comment on that. Intriging / puzzling string of thought thought Paras ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/thumbsup.gif) ------------------ "Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent." Victor Hugo IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 25287 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted June 29, 2004 01:18 PM
We are all the product of other people's ideas and the environment in which we were raised. We conform to what we were taught or we react against it, but either way, we are the direct result of other people's ideas. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 01:26 PM
Indeed, we all are a product of someone elses ideas. Though, some of us choose not to conform to them once we are adults are realize some of those ideas we were raised with don't make much sense.I am most certainly a product of the environment I was raised in. I look at my painful childhood as a blessing in disguise, and an example of how NOT to raise children. From my experience, I believe we all boil down to two types of people (with many different personalities, of course). Victims and Survivors. A victim will conform, a survivor will take what he/she needs and leave the rest. IP: Logged |
paras Knowflake Posts: 1660 From: the Heart of It All Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 06:06 PM
Ahh, I loved all your responses!Here is my ultimate reaction, Randall, to the things I was "raised" to be; a decision I made long ago, before I had ever even heard this parable (forgive me if my retelling of it isn't the greatest): ... A young man was sent to a Buddhist temple to learn Zen. He met first with the head Master, who invited him into his room so they could get to know each other. The young man was eager and went on and on telling the Master everything he knew about Zen, everything he had learned in his prior years of study, hoping to make a good impression. The Master listened politely, only stopping him once to ask if he would like a cup of tea, which the young man accepted without thinking. He continued to talk, and when the Master brought the tea-pot over he dutifully held out his cup. The Master continued listening to the boy as he poured the tea. The young man's voice began to falter as the tea reached the top of the cup -- the Master continued to pour! The tea overflowed the cup, spilling onto the floor, and still the Master continued to pour. "Master-?" the young man started. "Like this cup," said the old man, "you are so full of your own ideas that there is no room for any more. How can I teach you Zen unless you first empty your cup?" --- Around the age of 16 I started having a spiritual identity crisis, and I realized I was more or less a "full cup" -- full mostly of other people's ideas, ideas that had been foisted upon me from every direction in life -- my parents, the Church, my peers, school, the government... society at large. I decided then to empty my cup, and to be very careful in what I refilled it with! This is why I still carry so many doubts, why so much of the ground that I stand on (mentally) is still uncertain. I do not want to become such a full cup that I cannot learn new and useful things. And I try to remain willing to empty my cup at any time, if it seems necessary. I have no problem with throwing out my entire world-view should I find one that makes better sense. An empty cup can be filled with anything. A full cup can hold no more. So sad, our American phrase "set in his ways"! A person who is set in his ways is someone who thinks he has learned everything that he needs to know, and has closed his mind to new information. I know I will never feel that way, no matter how much I learn. I know that knowledge and wisdom are infinite, and I want all I can get! IP: Logged |
Gia Knowflake Posts: 1154 From: California Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 06:07 PM
I second that LibraSparkle! ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/fireworks2.gif) Once we become adults surely we should be able to think things out on our own? I'm nothing like my three sisters or the rest of my family even though we are all the product of the same enviroment. Although we all had similar lessons in life, we all responded in very different ways. We were always sisters, but individual people first looking at things from different angles. I think we create ourselves as we go along. We change our ideas and views according to our individual experiences don't you think? IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1409 From: Registered: May 2004
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posted June 29, 2004 09:58 PM
I have just met someone that has been in my head the whole darn time. Paras, HOW DID YOU KNOW?------------------ "Know thyself" Inscribed on the temple of Apollo at Delphi IP: Logged |
babylonphoenix Knowflake Posts: 57 From: hell Registered: Apr 2004
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posted July 01, 2004 10:06 AM
thank you paras,you are an angel ,you know.IP: Logged |
CancerianMoon Knowflake Posts: 1082 From: Sydney, Australia. Cancer Sun.....Gemini Moon.....Aqua Rising Registered: Aug 2003
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posted July 02, 2004 06:06 PM
you know...this is one reason why astrology rang so true for me when i first learned of it...i was always interested why i was so different to my sisters...and why we all grew in the same house and yet we all ended up so different..many things come into to play with how we have shaped ourselves and how others have influenced us...but we are born into the right setting we need to learn and to be able to shape our lives the way we need for our lessons this time around...tis up to us if we use them lessons for benefit or not.. ![](http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/smile.gif) IP: Logged | |