posted July 22, 2004 08:34 PM           

For those of you that don't know me, my name's Roger Dafremen. My friends call me daf and you're all welcome to do so, even the few of you who the second part of this post is about.

I won't mention any names because that would be POINTLESS. The folks involved have no idea what it is that they are doing, most if not all of them are mere puppets to the forces that they've brought with them.

They are little more than infected carriers whose only thought was to find love and light here at Lindaland. Unfortunately, the forces behind their confusion, and the huge amounts of misinformation that they have brought with them are not so benign, nor are they interested in light and love. These forces wish to destroy this place, and they almost succeeded. Were it not for a few fortunate emails, this place would have succumbed to the infection that has been planted here.

This post will be a three parter. First, the preamble. You've already read that.

Now the message to the puppets and their masters:

We know you are here. We have come together where you will not find us and have compared notes. We know your motives, we know your intent and we know your tactics even if our dear brothers and sisters here do not.

DO NOT THINK for a moment that you will succeed here.

This is home to our hearts and you will not take it from us. We will not fight you on your own terms and because of this, you will not win. We will meet your speculation with Truth and you will fail. We will meet your sarcasm and petty insults with love and honesty and you will fail. We will meet your flippant comments during serious topics with an insistent voice of reason and urgency. You will not distract our minds with your wit, nor confuse our hearts with your subtle tricks. We know who you are, we know what you bring, we know how you bring it and we will be there, watching for you, waiting for you to try and mislead us. We will not fail these precious roses, nor yield this beautiful garden, for we are its thorns and as such, do not yield, but defend.

You have been warned. Leave, cease and desist, or be exposed by your own twisted words.

This final part is for you, Knowflakes. You know who you are. This is for you sisters and brothers:

Don't look for the villains among you. That is part of the game. That is what they want, to divide us with suspicion and pettiness.

Simply meet their venom with incredulity. Meet hate with love. Meet your own doubt with a firm embrace and doubt what your heart finds difficult to swallow. Be there for one another and hold your tongue if it would add to the insanity that is ego attempting to pass itself off as truth or wit. Express your hurt with forgiveness. Leave the sarcasm and the bile for some other place...some other day.

You bite your tongue before you add fuel to the flames of this destructive cancer.

Don't do this for me, do it for Lindaland. She needs you now. Your ego can wait and so can your pride.

This place is more special than many of you know. It is a square on the chess board of a confrontation of forces that are as real as they would have you believe that they are not. Love, my loves. That is what you have to offer Lindaland....give her all you have.

I for one will NOT be leaving your sides any time soon. That is EXACTLY what they wanted and this stubborn little prick intends to play the part of the THORN in their sides.

Love,

posted July 22, 2004 09:34 PM         

I don`t want to step out on assumption so Let me see if we`re on the same page.

Are we talking about energies that may have been fooling around with new age fads, ouija (sp) boards et al and may have been an unwitting accomplice to the darker energies? Thus carrying that force with them? Or simply dark energy playing nice?

I`m aware that happens and prayer is the first gift to help the soul recover their lite.

juniperb

posted July 22, 2004 10:24 PM         

"uR allll stoopid 4 thiniin starz rooole"

Because, if so, heh, I agree with what you have to say. But I don't think those kind of people are going to destroy this site.

posted July 22, 2004 10:40 PM         

I'm not fond of cryptic scare tactics. If there are WOMD, then show them. I'd say this post of yours is filled with the types of accusations that only lead to suspicion (as evidenced in posts by other Know-flakes), and serve to divide.

If you consider me flippant, so be it. But I too am looking for truth.

Life balances out, daf. Yin and Yang.

posted July 22, 2004 11:18 PM         

Or, am I totally missing the boat?

Ask yourself this. Is this a biased warning?

I can't speak for everyone, but I know, I myself want nothing more than progress for the human race. That means embracing what it is, and moving forward from this point on. That's the only way to move forward. People can stick their heads in the sand and chant "There's no place like Utopia", but they are pretty much useless in helping us get there FROM HERE.

No, my support goes to the person who can give us a bridge, not just a vision.

posted July 22, 2004 11:30 PM           

What vision?! What vision have I got? I'm a man who sits on his ass fighting his ego every day and trying to figure out what all of this craziness means. Keep your support friend lioneye! If there's anyone on this site who wants LESS for his "vision" to be supported than me...stand up so I can sit down.

Now, if you'd go back and read, and perhaps lend a little support to Lindaland by being...loving, patient and a bit less presumptuous....well that'd be mighty fine of you partner and I'd have a big old bear hug for ya when we come out the other side of this nastiness.

Thanks for sharing your feelings on the subject. Please, don't miss the boat man..this site needs you.

Love,

posted July 22, 2004 11:37 PM         

Beware of nastiness in general? Don't worry, we are. On daily basis.

Spit it out. What compelled you to post this? That's what I want to know.

posted July 22, 2004 11:41 PM           

You shout "duck and someone sez WHY", and you say "because there's something about to hit your head" and they say, "what size is it and what direction is it coming from?"

If ya can't recognize a brick, then just DUCK.

Love,

posted July 23, 2004 12:01 AM           

The reason I can't just "come out with it" is that when things aren't as they seem, you can't just point and say "Look! There it is!" because most folks simply won't see it.

There are individuals on this site who have just been hanging around with the wrong sorts of people or dabbling with the wrong sorts of secrets. Their confusion, curiosity or ignorance has led them to become "tools" if you will. Puppets of forces that have no power except the ability to manipulate the human mind using confusion and misinformation. This sort of "infection" is contagious. I've felt it myself with a guy who came into my house. Three days later, I was snarling and snapping and looking for reasons to push my ego into anyone that wanted to get in the way.

These forces that I'm speaking of are spiritual, but they DO have an organized human group doing their work here in the physical realms. I don't believe any of the people we've identified are THAT sort of "tool", just unwitting pawns mostly.

The thing is that two of us at least have had concerted efforts to introduce the sort of misinformation that experience and intuition tell us come from these forces. These approaches (which I'm afraid I'm tempted to call attacks) occured at approximately the same time. A third person delivered a carefully targeted message to one of us, again, quite likely without knowing that this is what they were doing. That's how these things work. There are folks who do their dirty work willingly, and there are others who think they're just doing "what they want to" when in fact they're also doing what these entities want them to.

That's as good as it gets for now I'm afraid. Meili has promised to provide a bit more clarity to the situation. I have no doubt that she'll do a better job than I seem to be doing.

Love,

posted July 23, 2004 12:07 AM         

I believe Lindaland is the reason we`re all here so each lite can shine and be the best we k-now to be. If there`s a energy hoovering and trying to cause disruption, it`s up to us to put our feelers out and recognize it.

It shouldn`t be a scare tactic, we all are aware enough to always know to be alert to influences that can/try disrupt our paths.

Thats what I see Dafs saying, be responsible, be aware and to remember we are what we think, do or say.

juniperb

posted July 23, 2004 12:10 AM         

Tonight I felt I needed to come back here and did. The first place I came to was here in Free for All, and saw this post. I have to say I believe I know what you are trying to get across. Or at least I can feel it in your words.

For my own reasons I felt I needed to take a break from here due to things I was experiencing in other forums that were extremely draining and sad to me.

I have chosen to come back. I have met too many good souls and learned so much here that I can't let what I feel is negativity, keep me away from a place that is meant to spread Love, Light and Learning.

We all have our highs and lows and lately I have been experiencing a low swing in my own life. Whether this has to do with my own soul or just feeling the collective thoughts that surround us all, I am trying to keep my head above the water. I learned to swim a long time ago and try as some might, to pull me under - I've discovered I can still breathe and there is life at the depths. Light always overcomes the Darkness. And right now the battle is tougher than ever.

I am looking forward the upcoming messages you have for us. You are a true bringer of light if I ever saw one. Along with many of the other beautiful souls here.

26

posted July 23, 2004 12:16 AM         

Not to seem greedy, but I'll drink it in in gulps.

I am God's child, and I'm not ashamed of that.

We grow up with that perspective in Canada, in school. That's why we have the international reputation of being "nice" and so "polite", is because we learn very early to be tolerant and kindly.

It wouldn't hurt America to have Christianity taught in specific schools, as on option.

Here, we have two school system - Public, which does not teach, speak of, or encourage any sort of religion specifically, and Seperate, which is Catholic, or Christian and includes that in the ciruculum, starting in grade 1. Not the "fundamentalist bible thumping" kind of Christianity, but more to do with "do unto others" and, "do good works in order to feel good" kind of thing.

posted July 23, 2004 12:30 AM         

Geez.. I run off at the mouth so much, (or fingers, perhaps) and I have had an emotional time of things the last few days.. I hope I am not one of the 'pawns'. I assure you, I am spiritually minded, and loving.. just drawn to and from the same emotional lows and highs as everyone else.
Like Lioneye said though... "feed me!!!"

posted July 23, 2004 12:32 AM           

Love,