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Solane Star
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posted October 30, 2004 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think the men want to touch this!!!

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dafremen
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posted October 30, 2004 11:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message
A man was walking along one day and suddenly, for no apparent reason, he punched his neighbor's wall.

The resulting hole was ugly and very noticeable. A few came by and said, "What is wrong with you? What have you done? Why did you put a hole in your neighbors' wall? What have they done to you?"

Very soon after, the man realized that his actions were driven by a deep pain he suffered due to betrayal earlier that day by someone unknown to the hapless neighbors.

Right then and there, the man decided he must patch the wall. His neighbors didn't deserve to pay the consequences for another's deceptions.

The man set about patching the wall, but soon a few of those who had seen the original hole said, "What are you trying to do? Are you trying to hide what you have done from your neighbors? You coward! Face the consequences! Leave the hole there for your neighbors to see so that they can know what a rotten thing you've done."

The man ignored them, for he knew that his neighbors didn't deserve this, and he felt truly regretful for having lashed out at an innocent for the crimes of another. And so he went about trying to patch the hole.

Not long passed before those who had seen the hole arrived with a neighbor whose wall had been damaged.

"See? See? What he's done?!" they said to the man's neighbor, "he put a hole in your wall!"

The neighbor looked, and couldn't see the hole that had been made, only a patched section.

While this made it apparent that damage had been done, it didn't give much indication of the hole, it's size, it's depth or its ugliness.

Seeing his neighbor, the offender asked that he be forgiven, explaining that he hadn't meant to disrespect anyone, he had lashed out blindly...stupidly.

The neighbor shook his head and said, "How can I forgive you? I can't even tell what the extent of the damage was."

The man was silent, for he didn't know how to answer that.

"No", continued the man's neighbor, "I'm afraid you'll have to show me what the hole looked like, or there will be no end to this situation."

The man looked back in disbelief, for he knew what he was being asked to do. He was being asked to show the ugly hole to his neighbor, and he'd just finished removing it.

"Yea you coward! Punch the wall again...make the hole, be a man!", shouted the crowd shaking their heads in disgust at him, some as curious as the neighbor to see what the hole had looked like.

The man looked at them, apologized once more, then walked away.

My apologies again, what I did was wrong.

Be well, and I'll see you around, here and elsewhere.

With sincere regret for my actions,

daf

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LibraSparkle
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posted October 31, 2004 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
daf, all I feel was needed was for you to address the situation directly, out of respect for those you may have offended... which you have now done. It's simply cause and effect. You caused a situation, which effected others. All that was needed was needed on your part was a means of changing, or settling the effect that you created. While I really enjoyed your story, and feel that I fully understand where you're coming from (now), I can't help but feel as though you're trying to make yourself into a martyr here.

You have made yourself quite clear. What you seem to be missing is that you have not just punched a hole in the wall of one neighbor, from the sounds of it, you went through the neighborhood and punched holes in the walls of several neighbors. The reality of it is on a much grander scale than you made it out to be.

No forgiveness is necessary, as far as I'm concerned. It's not like you jumped through my computer screen and physically attacked me.... and it's not like I've been sitting and brooding over this .

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juniperb
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posted October 31, 2004 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Daf, your pain and shame is deeply felt

May you Move past what/whoever has hurt your Heart.

God/Dess Bless you.

Love,

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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trillian
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posted October 31, 2004 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Oh boy. Parables.

Sorry, the analogy didn't work for me. You didn't punch holes in any walls, you poisoned people.

Heck, I wasn't even offended. Never was, and I'm not now.

Just curious. Still am. It's not important, it's not a contest, and you're not going to share, so I'll pretty much put it all to bed. I don't need to read the original to understand its essence.

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lalalinda
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posted November 03, 2004 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Ladies,
Why do you let him hurt your feelings, upset your birthday and turn the tables on you while he deletes his original insulting post/prose? I know why I didn't see this thread, because experience has taught me to ignore anything with Dafs name on it. He talks in circles, makes little sense, and needs to get some sleep.

Daf ~ I thought you were leaving

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orchidspirit
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posted November 03, 2004 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orchidspirit     Edit/Delete Message
The Sufis advise to speak only after our words have managed to pass through three gates.

At the first gate we ask ourselves,"Are these words true?"

If so we let them pass on; if not, back they go.

At the second gate, we ask, "Are they necessary?"

At the last gates, we ask, "Are they kind?"

(Eknath Easwaran)

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 03, 2004 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
I'll assume that last post up there is directed at Daf's nastiness because (I'm quite sure) it was A untrue, B unnecessary, and C unkind.

Thanks, orchidspirit, for pointing out that Daf should have considered these things before running around the neighborhood punching holes in many of his neighbors walls... or poisoning them... or whatever it was that he has done

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orchidspirit
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posted November 03, 2004 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orchidspirit     Edit/Delete Message
I wasn't pointing anything out to anybody inparticular Librasparkle.

But I do think that Daf realised his words had got passed the third gate, rounded them up and put them all back where they belonged. To err is human, to forgive divine

Love

Orchid xx

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juniperb
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posted November 03, 2004 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Orchidspirit, Your gentle Heart is spun Gold.

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 03, 2004 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
"But I do think that Daf realised his words had got passed the third gate..."

By this, are you implying you believe Daf's words were true, necessary, and kind even though he "pulled them back"?

I should hope not, but that's sure how it sounds.

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orchidspirit
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posted November 03, 2004 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for orchidspirit     Edit/Delete Message
Librasparkle you misinterpret what I say.

What I actually said was "But I do think that Daf realised his words had got passed the third gate, rounded them up and put them all back where they belonged."

What I implied is that whatever Dafs words were he realised he had allowed them passed all these check points when in fact they should have been stopped at gate 1.

After he had allowed them past all 3 of the gates he realised his mistake, hence why I say "to err is human" so he retracted his words and put them where they should have stayed, he apologised for his actions. Hence why I say "To forgive is divine"

As you say "I'll assume that last post up there is directed at Daf's nastiness because (I'm quite sure) it was A untrue, B unnecessary, and C unkind."

I will assume you never even read his words. I on the other hand did and stand by my statement that his words are now where they should have stayed.

Love Orchid xx

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LibraSparkle
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posted November 03, 2004 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for clearing that up. For a second there, I actually thought you were defending his attacks.

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