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Topic: Censorship by subterfuge. Feel free to ignore this post.
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dafremen unregistered
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posted November 09, 2004 01:00 PM
Randall,You started this. Trying to hide your errors in judgement by moving these posts to Global Unity says more about your true feelings about free expression than I'm sure you intend it to. What you are doing is trying to bury the truth by using your power as admin. This forum is called Free-For-All. You have insulted, berated and accused people of something which they haven't done, and now you are trying to deny them the chance to speak to ALL of the members of Lindaland. daf IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 01:13 PM
I moved that last post, daf. Not Randall.IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 01:45 PM
(This was originally posted at Free-For-All. It was moved here to reduce the number of Knowflakes who would read it, not to "spare them from contention." There are those here who have a vested interest in promoting censorship without appearing to promote censorship.) Gimme a F'in break, daf. You're out of your ever lovin' mind.Again, you are having issues with the truth. You and your comrades are the ones responsible for the subterfuge. I asked nicely once to not turn this into a drama fest. You have chosen to do so anyhow. You created this daf. Pat yourself on the back, dude. IP: Logged |
orchidspirit Knowflake Posts: 159 From: UK Registered: May 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 01:56 PM
he doesnt have to Librasparkle - I already did it for himIP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 7314 From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL Registered: May 2002
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posted November 09, 2004 02:01 PM
I completely agree with LibraSparkle...I have read all of the posts and I am disgusted. Disgusted at the fact that a small group of people would protray themselves as "masters" and "Disciples" while expecting others to just fall along and take the "comet's path" to enlightenment. For those that questioned the forced religious zealousness of the "master" they were questions and put down or made to feel that they were not of the "enlightened crowd" Riddles, poems, games- that all it was - subterfuge wrapped in a bow of "peace". No different than the zealots that knock on the door with the hope of converting the lost souls in the house. What is worse, what saddens me the most, is that so many people were willing to subscribe to the "master" without proper analysis. To me this speaks of how much we all trust each other here at LindaLand and how a few- a group -a cult- can come in and abuse that trust. I do commend those that wanted to give this group a chance to explain their theory, unfortunately all we got was a bunch of riddles and ryhmes. Keep in mind, that this is the same group that started the "witch-hunt". The game of "there is evil here...but not here..maybe it's outside..but we won't point fingers..well maybe just a bit". The only so called 'evil' here was that which was perpetrated by that so called "group". Free speech yes, but speech that incites a riot either online or off is not what our fore-fathers intended. COME ON PEOPLE....talk about a false prophet..can you think of any "Master" in history that had to play THESE games? Randall was right..and he followed his gut, there were several of us that felt that same way -even in the first witch-hunt. Hmmm...yes...in fact I do believe I called the group on that didn't I- being the same person..or sharing identities.. Face it..the group was caught with the IP thing - it happens - it's over- can we now get on with our lives?
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lioneye68 Knowflake Posts: 6062 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2003
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posted November 09, 2004 02:14 PM
Pid you can sure give a good cerebral *SMACK* lol...love ya my fire sistah. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 13411 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted November 09, 2004 02:16 PM
Pid.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 25287 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 09, 2004 04:06 PM
------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 09, 2004 05:47 PM
Looks on from the bleachers, still only half clued in.. ( what happens when I go back to my real world? Do I have to miss everything???!!!) *shrugs* Meh, whatevah....... Yes, Pid, well said, though I onlt know about half of it. And Librasparkle, I trust that you would make the best decisions the situation calls for. Am I a bully to support someone I respect? Gotta' watch who you talk with, you know..... wouldn't want someone posting nasty things about me that I am unable to hear nor defend. Bitter? Yes. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Knowflake Posts: 10985 From: One of the billions and billions of cosmos hurdling towards a black hole :) Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 10, 2004 02:21 AM
Wait ... I'm not exactly sure what "subterfuge" means ... IP: Logged |
Aen Knowflake Posts: 730 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted November 10, 2004 02:45 AM
The Pluto rising Sag in action is a beautiful sight indeed. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3291 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 10, 2004 07:39 PM
Pidaua, How eloquently you speak. I had a problem with the trust issue too. I find a majority here are spiritually enlightened or trying to be. Looking for answers that are only answered through taking a higher path/road. This SUBTERFUGE was mean and some sickos idea of making our enlightened search a joke. Take heart all serious students and seekers, the pure of heart always triumphs Daf ~ What ugliness hides in your heart?? and why do you hate? or is it jealousy? What do you covet? Is it the trust and respect we have for our webmaster? Or do you want to be Linda Goodman?? IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 11, 2004 12:53 AM
Do you just want a pony?IP: Logged |
coldiron Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Sep 2004
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posted November 11, 2004 01:09 AM
Imam Ali was returning from battle with his companions. There were rumors that the wife of a man who had been away in battle was behaving in a most immodest manner with one who was not a member of her family. Hearing this, the members of the party, in order to save the man certain humiliation, asked the Imam to go ahead of the party and investigate the matter and serve as a Witness and return with an accounting of the facts. Imam Ali agreed to serve in this capacity and went ahead to the man's house. Outside the gate, the Imam placed one hand over his eyes and used his other to feel along the wall and make his way into the house. After exploring the interior thoroughly, he left and returned to the man. Most anxiously the man approached the Imam and asked for a Witnessing to which the Imam replied "I saw no sin".And from elsewhere: "We humans do not understand compassion. In each moment of our lives, we betray it. Aye, we know of its worth, yet in knowing we then attach to it a value, we guard the giving of it, believing it must be earned... Compassion is priceless in the truest sense of the word. It must be given freely. In abundance." --Itkovian, Shield Anvil IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 13411 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted November 11, 2004 03:23 AM
(((hugs lala)))*quickly gallops out of thread* IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 540 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted November 11, 2004 05:05 PM
Dear AJ~Subterfudge[sub`ter-fuj] n an artiface to escape censure or the force of an argument, evasion. Lets make Subterfudge the WOW (word of week!! I miss elementary school IP: Logged |
Shizuka Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted November 12, 2004 02:30 AM
Dear Cold,You have a tendency to contaminate these stories. Watch: They informed the Prophet Mohammad that the wife of a certain soldier is having an affair with a man. At this time, the Sharia was being codified among the Muslims. Prophet Mohammad asked Imam Ali to go and investigate. When Imam Ali arrived there, he knew that the two were having an affair. He put his hand over his eyes and walked around the room. He came back and said “I did not see anything”.
Two things happened here. First the woman shamefully repented and returned from the wrong, never repeating that wrong action again. Secondly, according to the Law of Moses, adulterers should be stoned. This penalty was subsequently refined by Jesus and accepted as a precedent in Islam. Although the letter of the Law required a certain penalty, the refinement presented by Jesus was also to be applied. The man who did not repent was later destroyed by his nafs. There are many dimensions to these stories, not just the convenient ones that justify wrong actions. We humans do not understand compassion. In each moment of our lives, we betray ONE ANOTHER. For sickness we bury all principles under our feet. Lust has taken the face of compassion and we use it to buy trust.
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LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 03:01 AM
Here's some fun interesting facts...First of all, thanks Shizuka, for posting in this forum. Made it a lot easier for me to trace your IP and compare it to MZ's. Funny... you're both VERY close to me. So uh... yeah. Since it's illegal to post IP addresses (as someone somewhere said), I am now confirming what Randall said is true. The two IP addresses come from virtually the same place. These two that I compared were not identical, but in the same city/state. I'm sure (s)he's just trying to make it look as though they're different now. Sh!(t) ... busted again IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 13411 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 03:05 AM
LS did you see the lovely words ShizukaBazooka had for you, I and Gia in GU?LMAO! IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 03:09 AM
yeah... she's quite the Spiritually Enlightened individual, isn't she?IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 03:12 AM
Looking further, I've found they are on the exact same network. IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 13411 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 03:18 AM
Wow! Sad, isnt it? I would really love to know why this person....."people".......is so upset. Why all the angry nasty remarks. Weird.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 25287 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 12, 2004 03:49 AM
Many ISPs rotate numbers, so they won't always be identical (unless he/she/they have a static IP). She might also be using a library or internet cafe' (same area, but not same computer). I'm about to give you Mod powers in GU, LS, so you can see what I've seen. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3291 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted November 12, 2004 05:13 AM
A serious question now, Who in their right mind could possibly justify stoning another human being? (talk about compassion) Jesus did not condone this behavior, in fact he said "let those who are without sin cast the first stone" Jesus was not Islam he was a Jew.Another serious question, with all the hatred coming from the middle east who would blindly follow an Iranian? And last but not least, a little class would go a long way. Why stay somewhere, where you have made a complete ass of your self? act like an adult admit it apologise and move on IP: Logged |
coldiron Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Sep 2004
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posted November 12, 2004 05:40 AM
Shizuka,It is always a pleasure to receive additional refinements to a much-loved story. Thanks. Be Well,
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