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jwhop
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posted July 09, 2005 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Bluemoon, what in the hell are you doing in Southern Alabama with a hurricane coming directly at you. And I'm not talking about a marginal huricane. By the time it gets to the panhandle of Florida it's probably going to be a category 4 or the highest, a 5. Wind speeds are 125mph right now and it's off the coast where I live in Florida and picking up wind speed. Look at the chart. There's a 40% probability of wind speeds up to 131mph in the next 12 hours and a 55% probability of wind speeds over 131mph.

Can't you bundle up everyone and head into southern Georgia?...which is predicted to be out of the wind zone...and that prediction would appear to be good since the hurricane is taking a northwest track up the Gulf of Mexico.

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26taurus
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posted July 09, 2005 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message

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SunChild
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posted July 09, 2005 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message

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"The important thing is this: to be able at any moment to sacrifice what we are for what we could become." Charles Dubois

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted July 09, 2005 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Bluemoon -

You can do it.


jwhop -

How can the probability of wind speeds over 131 be greater than the probability of wind speeds up to 131 ?
hmm..

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jwhop
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posted July 10, 2005 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Guess you'll have to take that up with the National Hurricane Center for a definitive answer but I would say you should have a look at the range of wind speeds for each category. In the case of a category 3 hurricane wind speeds are 111 to 130mph for which there is a 40% probability. There's a 55% probability wind speeds will be over 130mph.

Just to be sure I understand your point; are you suggesting the data should be ignored because you think there's a flaw in the way the National Hurricane Center categorized the information?

I don't know how far inland Bluemoon is but I've been in central Florida...after Charley cut a swath diagonally across the state from Punta Gorda to Orlando...and I've been there recently. It's been nearly a year and people are still living in temporary trailers provided by FEMA because their homes were destroyed.

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Petron
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posted July 10, 2005 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
that graph means that its more likely than not going to become a category 4 hurricane...
if Bluemoon has any doubts at all about her shelters location and storm worthiness she should take jwhops advise quickly.....

i'm sending prayers of light......

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/024557.shtml?tswind120

Published - July, 9, 2005
Dennis expected to become Cat. 4 at landfall; winds near 125 mph
Lesley Conn and Angela Fail
@PensacolaNewsJournal.com

Hurricane Dennis winds’ are near 125 mph, making it a strong Category 3 storm, and forecasters expect it to reach Category 4 by landfall, according to the latest information from the National Hurricane Center.

Dennis is located about 250 miles south of Panama City and about 340 miles southeast of Biloxi, Miss.

The storm is moving toward the northwest at near 14 mph. A gradual turn to the north-northwest is expected tonight or Sunday.

Dennis is expected to strengthen. To be classified as a Category 4, the storm must have sustained winds between 131 mph and 155 mph.

A storm surge of 12 to 14 feet, accompanied by large and battering waves, is possible near and to the east of where the center of Dennis crosses the northern Gulf Coast Sunday.

Reports from aircraft reconnaissance and signs of the storm resuming its track toward Northwest Florida have National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service forecasters concerned that this storm will be more intense and have higher storm surge than Hurricane Ivan, which made landfall in Gulf Shores, Ala., on Sept. 16 as a Category 3.

“It’s looking like it will be every bit as strong as Hurricane Ivan,” Weather Service official Don Shepherd said.

Storm surge is expected to exceed that of Ivan.
Residents in mobile homes and low-lying areas are encouraged to evacuate immediately.

The latest weather information completely changed the tenor mood at the Escambia County Sheriff's Office. Just as so many residents had, deputies and senior administrators were visibly hopeful that some computer models Saturday afternoon put the storm ashore closer to Biloxi, Miss., which would have minimalized impact to Escambia and Santa Rosa counties.

But National Hurricane Center forecaster Stacy Stewart told conference-call listeners that forecasters were confident the storm would come ashore between Mobile Bay and Pensacola Bay, and its rapidly dropping pressure indicated it could be a 4. Late in the call, he reported that data from the aircraft showed pressure was continuing to drop. Latest readings were 947 millibars.

The intensifying storm could make driving conditions much more hazardous even before dawn on Sunday, sheriff's officials advised.
"We know that we're in for a lick, and all we can do is pray now,'' said Capt. Joel Mooneyham. http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050709/NEWS01/507 09005/1006


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted July 10, 2005 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not suggesting the data should be ignored either way, I'm just saying, if windspeeds are going to get Beyond 131mph, they will first have to Reach 131mph. Hence, the chances of windspeeds getting beyond 131mph cannot logically be greater than the chances of windspeeds reaching 131mph.
No biggy. Nevermind.

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Petron
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posted July 10, 2005 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
heheh yes, jwhops transliteration of the chart leaves something to be desired....

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jwhop
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posted July 10, 2005 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Academic now that the chart said there was a 40% probability wind speeds would be between 111 and 130mph and a 55% probability they would be 131mph or higher.

As of 8am, the hurricane had strengthened to 145mph.

Quick, someone call the National Hurricane Center and tell them they don't understand probabilities. The probabilities for both contingencies is now 100%.

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merratti
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posted July 10, 2005 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merratti     Edit/Delete Message
Blue

After 20 years and 4 kids,I left an abusive marriage.I am 36 now,seperated on year and never been more happy or more at peace.You owe it to yourself to leave.

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DayDreamer
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posted July 10, 2005 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayDreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Bluemoon take care of yourself!


PS Was the name you asked me to lexi, yours with the Taurean's last name, or your lastname?

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aqua
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posted July 11, 2005 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
i know bluemoon u can really do it!
have a little of courege,strength,will or whatever u can call it.

i know u can do it.

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Petron
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posted July 11, 2005 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
Thank God the hurricane lost alot of force before hitting.....though alot of peeps will be without power

Alabama "dodges a bullet"

Hurricane Dennis came and went Sunday night, leaving much of Shelby County and the surrounding area unscathed.

Alabama Power reported that nearly 220,000 people in Alabama were without power Monday morning, but the majority of those reports came out of coastal counties and Montgomery.

Governor Bob Riley addressed the public yesterday, even as Dennis thundered inland, saying that he believed the state had "dodged a big bullet." The governor said that the hardest hit town in the state was Atmore, with widespread power outages and wind damage.

Shelby County residents saw a number of tree limbs and brush in the yards Monday morning. But few reports of trees blocking roads and driveways were surfaced Monday.

Dennis mad landfall Sunday at 2:25 Sunday afternoon around Pensacola, Fla. The storm hit with sustained winds of 120 mile per hour but quickly faded to a category one storm for most of its trek across Alabama. http://www.shelbycountyreporter.com/articles/2005/07/11/news/news01.txt

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LibraSparkle
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posted July 11, 2005 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
**shakes her head at Jwhop and Petron**

You two are like an old married couple.

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lovely*
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posted July 12, 2005 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
Libra I was just thinking the same thing.

Petron, do you like, follow jwhop or what? I've rarely, if ever see you over here..and now with...jwhop being here...you, you, you..

oh nevermind~

Bluemoon, i just saw this tonight and read your very sweet inquiry regarding my pregnancy.

Although I'm not aware of all the details of the story, I am sorry that you have to go through this. So I'm wondering, after 20 years it must either be excruciatingly difficult or easy to leave him. Which is it?

I also concur with the others. Get yer ayass outta Alabama if it aint too late.

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Bluemoon
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posted July 12, 2005 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks to you all! I got my butt the hell out of southern Alabama with my Mama and my daughter. We went to northern Mississippi. I was an interesting trip. We took the back roads back to her house. She told me about everything!!!! She knows every town, she grew up here.

Yes, Lovely*, it is very painful. I haven't pulled up all my stakes or packed all my stuff. I am really not quite sure what to do with myself right now. Hate making the hard decisions. For now I am here at my mom's house. I have to go back for my son graduation on July 28. He is getting his Liscense Nursing degree.

LOVE TO ALL!!!!! Sandi

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Bluemoon
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posted July 17, 2005 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I have to leave Mom's tommorrow morning for Virginia. My son graduates and I have to figure out what I am going to do with my self. I am not really looking forward to it. But, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. I am no good at the hard descions. And the money thing sucks. I dont have a good job now, I am not working for the preschool anymore. Just doing free lance graphic arts work. I am not sure I want to put roots in Alabama. Anybody got any good ideas to help out a wishy washy moonchild???

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