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Svetlana
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posted August 24, 2005 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Svetlana     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, Sue!
I'm fine thank you for asking.
It's so strange that the people who have the ability to hurt us the most are the people who are closest to us. But they are truly our best teachers.

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We are the ones we've been waiting for.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted August 24, 2005 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDuchess88     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Sue, I would like to say that I agree with you when I say that your sister made a very selfish statement. I dunno, I guess I just wanted to say that her statement offended me. I mean does she know what its like to have depression? Obviously not. To me its just as real as any other emotion and its not something I would wish on my worst enemy.

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks pixie girl for your words, yeah "holier than thou" it is and it never ceases to surprise me what people can think and do!!! The comments were very judgemental and quite harsh........I think me too trusting........gonna have to stand back from this negativity.

I feel as tho Im being used as a scapegoat for someone elses anger and frustration......am not gonna allow this........no way jose, been there, done that, bought the t shirt etc!!! Older and wiser now!!

The thing that I feel strongly here is how much support there is a LL, you guys really rock, like you always come in and help out like true friends. Thanks Pixie kindred one, as usual you echo my thoughts

Hi Svet

You are right, they are our greatest teachers but having said that I dont need people here telling me who I love and who I dont. Still I know in my heart the one that says those things is talkng of herself - lets hope love is found

God bless

Love to all


Sue xxx xxx

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Moon

You guys REALLY DO ROCK!!!

Thanks for your support, really helps and for taking the time to post on what, for me, and my family is an extremely emotive subject.

To repeat what my Dad said "if it wasnt for sensitive people, we would stil be eating each other".

If your listening Dad YOU ROCK TOO LOL !!!!


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P.s. He calls me Bohemian aahh bless x

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
mmmm........I just got a message in which said Moon in Scorpio.......is it, or is that somewhere else........interesting stuff hey???

xxx

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TINK
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posted August 24, 2005 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Salutations Sue I don't think we've met.


Having experienced a severe depression in my early twenties that completely incapacitated me, I was drawn to your thread. I sympathize entirely.

"Waking the dead" is just a way I sometimes refer to the process we earth-bound souls go through to achieve a greater perception. So, yes, I mean "people in general". I certainly count myself among them. More so than most, in fact. Do I presume that most of us are asleep? Yes. To varying degress, of course. The dead or the sleeping, whichever you choose. As the Cat said, we probably wouldn't be here if we weren't.

I agree you with 100% about the use of force. It's counterproductive, isn't it? Hence my previous post. Lotus seems to be trying to alert us to something and is frustrated with our lack of cooperation. I was pointing out what I thought was an error in her delivery and intent. (in hindsight, that's pretty nervy of me, huh? ... But I was honestly trying to help so maybe the LL gods will forgive me)

Honestly, I was surprised by Lotus' reply. (And yours too) I expected her to fight or be offended. Isn't life strange!

Someone once asked the Buddha, "What are you?" To which the Buddha replied, "I am awake".

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TINK
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posted August 24, 2005 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
Forgot to mention how much I liked what your dad said about sensitive people. The Irish really do have a way with words.

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TINK
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posted August 24, 2005 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message

quote:
At those times in my life when I have had to face my dark night of the soul, my darker issues and fears, with which I protect, with dear life it s-elf. I usally don't what to deal or feel that part of my soul and it so needs me to do so, or it wouldn't come up this way inside me. It has drive me mad and in to some really deep dark moods of depression and a long time and lots of hard work to come to this place in time, where I say no more poison and just more understanding of this side of mys-elf. Still learning to feed that part of my soul with more gentle compassion and understanding of the human nature and how fragile we can truly be.

Solane .... yup. That's very insightful. I can't say I've learned to be that good to myself, but I think you have the right idea. It's a hard row to hoe.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 24, 2005 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Tink!
Who're you calling a hoe?

J/K.
Figured we needed a bit of that.
Good to see you.

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TINK
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posted August 24, 2005 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
If the shoe fits

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pixelpixie
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posted August 24, 2005 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Well, does it?

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sue g
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posted August 25, 2005 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
HI Tink

How are you?

Thanks for posting and taking the time to explain about the "dead"people" LOL. I understand what you mean, but I also feel that maybe a lot of folks here are very much 'ALIVE" (in the words of Eddie Vedder), as I am.

Could you explain to me why you were surprised by my reply - I am ever interested in peoples opinions?

I was so sorry to hear of your depression, you like myself, must be a very sensitive man/woman? I feel very deeply for anyone who goes thro this - I heard someone say once, "its the soul screaming out" - another deep and sensitive one hey - thanks be to God for them!!!

Thanks again and speak soon

Love


Sue xx

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TINK
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posted August 25, 2005 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
I was surprised because you seemed a bit offended (Perfectly understandable given the subject matter) and I was trying to defend you.

I think people here have more questions than most. Which is nice.

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pixelpixie
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posted August 25, 2005 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Sue... Tink.. Tink.. Sue

Tink is a wonderful Scorpio woman who used to come around here alot. You'd love her..

Sue is a wonderful Scorpio woman who comes around here now. You'd love her.

Introductions made. I am a wonderful scorpio woman who used to come here alot and still comes around here alot.
Despite this, I still have a busy life outside of here.. so you couldn't exactly call me a big ol' loser.. But I have been called a 'Hoe' a few times, which is entirely true.

*claps hands*
CIRCLE TIME!!!!

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sue g
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posted August 25, 2005 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Tink

If I sounded offended I didnt mean to!!! I think I was a little taken aback with the thread that was dedicated to fayte and I (had that happened by then) OR I was a little surprised by the communications coming out of this matter!!

I want to say sorry to you if you felt upset or hurt by anything I said girl, that would have not been my intention!

Unfortunately, in the past I have been on the receiving end of peoples' anger and although I am a sensitive one, I had to put a stop to this, for me it went too far, so you prob caught me in the middle of this - sorry for that!

We have a kds tv programme here called the Teletubbies and one of them is called Tinky Winky, sounds a bit like your name - he is purple and I am told he is a gay icon - (strange but true) LOL!!!!

Anyway Tink I thank you for defending me, what is it about Scorpio people and loyalty, they always astound me!!!

I hope you can understand that I was feeling a little errr........confounded, for want of a better word

Love


Sue xxx

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sue g
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posted August 25, 2005 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
And to you Pixie Wixie

You little love you, what a woman you are and of so many skills - rock singer, lover, mother, wife, seductress, artist, and now redeemer of all things of a challenging nature...........

come here to me you lovely thing, I wanna squeze you tight, and give you a big sloppy KISS

Thankyou friend

Love you


Sue xxxx

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sue g
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posted August 25, 2005 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Tink

If I sounded offended I didnt mean to!!! I think I was a little taken aback with the thread that was dedicated to fayte and I (had that happened by then) OR I was a little surprised by the communications coming out of this matter!!

I want to say sorry to you if you felt upset or hurt by anything I said girl, that would have not been my intention!

Unfortunately, in the past I have been on the receiving end of peoples' anger and although I am a sensitive one, I had to put a stop to this, for me it went too far, so you prob caught me in the middle of this - sorry for that!

We have a kds tv programme here called the Teletubbies and one of them is called Tinky Winky, sounds a bit like your name - he is purple and I am told he is a gay icon - (strange but true) LOL!!!!

Anyway Tink I thank you for defending me, what is it about Scorpio people and loyalty, they always astound me!!!

I hope you can understand that I was feeling a little errr........confounded, for want of a better word

Love


Sue xxx

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sue g
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posted August 25, 2005 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Just to make sure you got my message LOL !!

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AcousticGod
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posted August 25, 2005 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I've liked the few times I've gotten to see the teletubbies. I like the oddity and colorfulness of it. Quite compelling.

I'm also a fan of Tink's. I've always found her to be nice. Not surprising, huh?

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leo_on_fire
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posted August 25, 2005 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leo_on_fire     Edit/Delete Message
As a sufferer of depressive tendencies myself I can certainly assure you that very little *VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY LITTLE* of depression is selfish...its not like you wake up one day and go "oh i think i wanna be depressed today". I know no one said that or even implied it however I feel very strongly on the subject. Everyone gets depressed at some point however there are those of us who are medically afflicted with it. I personally have suffered on and off with manic depression *bipolar* for the past 5 years. It is the most frightening experience ever to know that your mind is capable of hurting you more than anything else. That you could possibly harm someone you love. I've found a way that keeps the worst of the depression at bay but I still get knocked down by it if I'm not careful. I never wanted the attention. I never asked to be sick but thats the way it goes sometimes. I have fought hard to be where I'm at and some of you know (from reading my most recent poetry posted at yellow wax) that I'm fighting hard to keep from going back down that path. Depression is in no way selfish or self absorbed. Its a disease.

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love is not love which alters when it alteration finds, or bends with the remover to remove.
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TINK
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posted August 25, 2005 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
No, not upset or hurt. Just surprised. But a lot gets lost in translation when speaking through this damn fool contraption.

So while I'm at it .... I should probably add, just for good measure, that I in no way wished to attack Lotus. I have nothing but sympathy and admiration for those who wish to change the world. God knows it could use the help. I suppose high levels of frustration are just part of the job description, but I hate to see good-hearted people drown in it.

I sometimes wish I could say I was one of those sensitive types but I don't think I am.

"nice"? "nice"?? eeewww. note to AG: most scorps don't enjoy being called nice.

But thank you so much for the thought Your GU posts are a wonder to behold. Very well structured and remarkably restrained, given the atmosphere. What a clear mind you have!

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AcousticGod
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posted August 26, 2005 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
lol...ok. "Nice" is kind of superficial, isn't it? Quite the opposite of Scorps. Well,

I Scorpios!!

(Hearts are cool!)

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sue g
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posted August 28, 2005 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Tink

You sound like a nice oopps sorry good person, but you are the first Scorpio person I have met that admits to not being sensitive..........interesting.........

Love


Sue xx

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sweetsuccubus
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posted August 28, 2005 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweetsuccubus     Edit/Delete Message
hello sue... my first words are please forgive me - i don't know you and i "hummed and hawed" a lot over whether to post my own thoughts regarding... i agree that your sisters re-action to your state wasn't top-notch but if i can play devil's advocate for just a moment... is it possible that her fear is dictating her behavior towards you? her fear FOR you? ( forgive the caps, haven't quite figured out the bold type yet ) or perhaps your suffering reminds her too acutely of her own pain, pain that she doesn't want to remember/acknowledge? whatever the root cause of her behavior i do hope you and she can reconcile ( not quite the word i was looking for but it's sunday - brain isn't really functioning the best )

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None for me thanks, I'm a recovering Catholic.

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 28, 2005 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there, sweetsuccubus. Welcome to the board. .

To make your words bold, you type: [ b ]your text here[ / b ]. Its the same for italics [ i ]your text here[ / i ].

Here is a link that will explain other forms of UUB code to you: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/ubbcode.html

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