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Solane Star
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posted November 01, 2005 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
The other day a young person asked me how I felt
about being old. I was taken aback, for I do not think
of myself as old. Upon seeing my reaction, she was
immediately embarrassed, but I explained that it was
an interesting question, and I would ponder it, and
let her know.

Old age, I decided, is a gift. I am now, probably for
the first time in my life, the person I have always
wanted to be. Oh, not my body! I sometime despair
over my body-- but I don't agonize over it for long.

I would never trade my amazing friends, my wonderful
life, my loving family for less gray hair or a flatter
belly. As I've aged, I've become more kind to myself,
and less critical of myself. I've become my own
friend. I don't chide myself for eating that extra
cookie, or for not making my bed, or for buying that
silly cement gecko that I didn't need, but looks so
avante garde on my patio. I am entitled to overeat, to
be messy, to be extravagant. I have seen too many dear
friends leave this world too soon; before they
understood the great freedom that comes with aging.

Whose business is it if I choose to read until 4 am,
and sleep until noon? I will dance with myself to
those wonderful tunes of the 50's & 60ies, and if I at
the same time wish to weep over a lost love, I will.
I know I am sometimes forgetful. But there again, some
of life is just as well forgotten - and I eventually
remember the important things. Sure, over the years my
heart has been broken. How can your heart not break
when you lose a loved one, or when a child suffers?
But broken hearts are what give us strength and
understanding and compassion. A heart never broken is
pristine and sterile and will never know the joy of
being imperfect.

I am so blessed to have lived long enough to have my
hair turn gray, and to have my youthful laughs be
forever etched into deep grooves on my face. So many
have never laughed, and so many have died before their
hair could turn silver. I can say "no", and mean it.
I can say "yes", and mean it. As you get older, it is
easier to be positive. You care less about what other
people think. I don't question myself anymore. I've
even earned the right to be wrong.

So, to answer the question, I like being old. It
has set me free. I like the person I have become. I
am not going to live forever, but while I am still
here, I will not waste time lamenting what could have
been, or worrying about what will be. For the first
time in my life, I don't have to have a reason to do
the things I want to do. If I want to play games on
the computer all day, lay on the couch and watch old
movies for hours or don't want to go to the beach or a
movie, I have earned that right. I have put in my
time doing everything for others, so now I can be a
bit selfish without feeling guilty.

I sometimes feel sorry for the young. They face a far
different world than I knew growing up, where we
feared the law, respected the old, the flag, our
country. I never felt the need to use filthy language
in order to express myself. And they too will grow
old someday.

I am grateful to have been born when I was, into a
kinder, gentler world.

By my girlfriend,
Peace and Light,
Elisabeth

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thirteen
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posted November 01, 2005 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I hate that my body aches more now. I suffer perimenopause issues so that gets me down to. Life begins at 40???? Thats when all these changes happened to me and I don't like it a bit. I do sense that i will come out of it ok though so that keeps me going.

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The Mutable Night Force
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posted November 01, 2005 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Mutable Night Force     Edit/Delete Message
It ain't gonna happen. Simple as.

I have enough inferiority complexes in my life without having to eventually deal with getting old.
I think it's great you feel that way. You're very lucky to find joy in growing older. But you know, it's not like that for everyone. I doubt I would find much solice in getting old, since the only thing that gives me meagre comfort sometimes is that I have a long while before I have to worry about stuff like that. But when it enevitably does, I'll be faced with a dilema. I'm not the type to top myself, purely because I wouldn't have the nerve and I think things through like that over in my mind too much. So I probably will get old, thinking about it, and be miserable. I don't think I'm an optimist, I'm too cynical and nit-picky.
And I don't think I could handle the ageing proccess and I'm not too fond of plastic surgery so god knows what I'll do.

But still, your retirement sounds happy. Sincerely, good for you!

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SunChild
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posted November 01, 2005 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
The Mutable Night Force...why don't you visit 'Oranges and Hyacinths' forum here. .

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Azalaksh
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posted November 01, 2005 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Solane Star ~

Wonderful writing! It IS a joy to have matured to the point you describe. But I can't help asking: How old is "old"?!?!?

I don't feel "old", yet some would call me old. I don't think any woman ever grows older than 25 in her own mind (arbitrary age there)!

I think one of the keys to your positive attitude (and my own) is Acceptance. I've reached a place where I don't worry about the things I worried about when I was young. I laugh a lot more -- the Universe can be a silly place!! OTOH it can also be mystifying, mind-blowing, and fill me with awe.

I derive such joy from just being here each day, to experience another day, to have the opportunity to learn more, and interact with yet more inspiring souls!

I am delighted to have achieved umpteen decades. It wasn't all happy times, but I learned from my pain and mistakes, and some people never do that.

TMNF, it's been one he11 of a ride! Please don't program yourself that you will "probably be miserable" because of this-and-such character/personality traits. Your ideas and values are changing very quickly at this time in your life. As some wise person here said: Rule #1 -- thou shalt not worry.

When I'm really old, I want to be like a stained glass window, with the light shining out of me in all sorts of fantastic colors!

Love to All,
'Zala

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Solane Star
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posted November 01, 2005 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys for all the credit, but my girlfriend was the one that wrote this and e-mailed it to me. I do feel strongly about this though, thats way I wanted to share.


Thanks guys!!!


I only post with my Solane Star

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Moon666Child
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posted November 02, 2005 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
Old? I am growing younger every year! 33 next Dec.

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Planet_Soul
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posted November 02, 2005 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
I think about this a lot, and I'm actually lookign forward to beign older than I am now. I t weirds me out how obssessed and fearful some people are about age. Geez, it seems as if everyday people are demanding/asking my age. I don't even think about chronilogical age all that much, and it annoys me when they ar surprised about how much "younger" I look. BTW, I'm 26 but am constantly confused as being 21/22. Anyhow, Linda is right we realyl are as old/young as we feel. I'm lookign forward to gainign more maturity, peace, and insight. I am looking forward to having my kids grown, and having my own grandchildren. It must be so much more relaxing to be a grandmotther than a mommy, imagine all the love but w/o all the rushing. Right now, I feel my lfie is all on a freeway at rush hour. I want to be able to sto, walk, and smell the roses on the side.

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Yin
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posted November 02, 2005 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Q:"How do you feel about being old..."
A: OLD

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sue g
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posted November 05, 2005 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I was 47 a few days ago.....is that considered old....oh my...if it is then I am doing something WRONG, or should that read right?

I am more relaxed, feel more free, more sexy, more confident than I ever did...more womanly hahaha.....I do things I never did when younger, like singing in public, playing an instrument and totally being myself....my sex life is only what I imagined it to be 20 years ago......

A white witch told me my life would really start at aged 50...haha...bring it on lads, bring it on......

No such thing as old......you are only as old as the man you feel.......SO.......well yer know what I mean dont ye?


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TINK
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posted November 05, 2005 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TINK     Edit/Delete Message
ditto

I just turned 35 and I just now, just barely, can feel myself beginning to come into my own. Do I wish it had happened earlier? Well, yeah ... but I wouldn't want to be 20 again for all the tea in China.

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Iqhunk
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posted November 05, 2005 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
<<you are only as old as the man you feel>>
This has to be the quote of the year.
Bravo, Sue. Scorpionic wisdom at its sizzling best. You might be a parallel soul of Mae West

Old/Young may be in the mind but the right attitude is constant evolution. To get better in any way all the time. Increased Health, Increased Wisdom and Increased Life. No need for deterioration.

I am highly inspired by Michael Douglas, ANthony Quinn, Harison Ford. Their wives are almost 30 years younger than them. That shows that they have not aged one bit mentally. Ditto Demi Moore. She thinks she is young enough for Ashton. It is the right attitude. And Madonna is looking/singing better now than when she was in her thirties!

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sue g
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posted November 05, 2005 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Ooohh absoluely hunkman.......my husband is only 11 years younger than me, but I know I would be well able to handle a guy in his 20s.....oh yeah.....no problem at all......

Older women and younger men......mmmmmm.......strange tho how there is in some countries still a bit of a stigma attached, whereas its okay for old guys to date young women.....never really understood that.

What I do know is that the younger guy and older woman are sexually matched and usually at their peaks, whereas the other way around.....errrrrr....isnt that sometimes for financial reasons....or am I being terribly cynical.....

Hahahha just thought about me being with a bloke 30 years older....I would probably wear him out and he would probably peg it in a couple of weeks and leave me all his money.......nah I dont think so....give me a younger hot one anyday....LOL....


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peajie
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posted November 06, 2005 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peajie     Edit/Delete Message
Checking the ages mentioned in the replies it seems that "OLD" is relative.

It always means.. "someone older than myself",
because no matter how hard we try there is always somebody we can not catch up to.

When I was 30 the horror of being 50 scared me.
Now I am 70 and I still feel 30, I have horror of 90.

And yet through all this the guy inside, looking out thro the windows, is really ageless.

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sue g
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posted November 06, 2005 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
You will never be old Peajie.......never ever.......neither will I...so when I speak of younger, I dont mean in years necessarily, I mean in spirit.........

I find you one of the most brightest, intelligent people
on this forum......some who are 50 years your junior, just wouldnt "get the point" like you do man.....and that is indeed very alluring.....whatever your age.......
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Iqhunk
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posted November 07, 2005 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
<<....isnt that sometimes for financial reasons....or am I being terribly cynical.....>>
No you are not, 80-90% it is finanical reasons. Of late, there are only two cases which seemed to be for non financial reaons. Salman Rushdie and Padma Lakshmi.
Micheal Douglas and Zeta Jones. Simple proof being that the because the ladies are quite wealthy too.

Why there should be stigma for an older woman and younger guy? Simple, those who dont get enough sex are jealous of the older gal getting happy nights regularly and the younger guy never getting a "Not tonight honey, I have a headache."

Personally, I am in favor of a 16-17 year old male marrying a 23-24 year old girl. This could be one heck of a happy marriage. The young boy wont be scattered, will be guided, will be successful in life, and the girl will have a smashing sex life with no reason to stray and no insecurity in her man.

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sue g
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posted November 07, 2005 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Iq

We do agree on something then?

Do you know what a shaman healer told a few months ago....she told me that a lot of people around me (women that is) were jealous of me and saying I am with my man becos of the sex only....can you believe that? We are together for 16 years and he is only 11 years younger. We have been thro hell and high water together and people are small minded enough to think that. I despair of human beings at times. Having said that the healer said my sexual energy is very strong......"OMG' said I "does it show that clearly"....."yes" she replied "you are a very typical Scorpio"......hahaha no wonder they are jealous (excuse my very devilish humour....but some people provoke me) !!!!

Have you ever been with an older woman yourself....I am not sure what age you are but guess about 28 and 29 maybe?

Oh my..... isnt 16 or 17 a little young for someone to marry?

Anyway thanks for the reply.......interesting indeed....


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fayte.m
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posted November 07, 2005 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Solane Star
You said:
Old age, I decided, is a gift. I am now, probably for
the first time in my life, the person I have always
wanted to be. Oh, not my body! I sometime despair
over my body-- but I don't agonize over it for long.

>>>>>>>>Exactly! I would not want to be young! Not unless I could keep my 51 years experience and simply aquire a young..HEALTHY body! Well..even an "old" HEALTHY body would suit me just fine! I love how the strands of silver and blond are running rampant through my Auburn hair! I love how I am much calmer...more sure of myself! Yes...age beyond the body stuff is just a state of mind. My friend who passed on in 1977 was 84 and took trips with young gay men in their late teens and early twenties to Florida and other places...and she had been wheelchair bound for 70 years!
Like I said before...she had a young lover of 19 when she was 69. It only ended a few years later because he was killed in a motorcycle accident!
I would not trade what I know and have learned in my 51 years for a young body! My life is not perfect...but I must say to date, it has been very interesting!
I also agree with Sue...(except on the guy 30 years older..I have no problems myself with 30+ years older or younger)I would not bore a young fellow...if he could get over my age and looks...and my husband is 15 years younger.
I even dumped the second husband who was even younger...by a few months than the one I am happily with now! And I weighed nearly 400 pounds then and was 43 years old! No..age is only an issue if one makes it so.(that goes for weight..looks...race..too!)

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Iqhunk
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posted November 08, 2005 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue,
We agree on many things, whats wrong with you
For instance, Scorpio girls are God's gift to Men? LOL!

I have never had sex with an older woman but my inner nature is Cancerian, I like to spoil and take care of the girl so I dont think I have the mental maturity to enjoy a relationship with an older girl, though Demi Moore can take me anytime. I like the dictum, a girl is as old as she looks. Let me use your addtional wisdom and modify it, A girl is as old as she looks and moves

Make the jealous people more jealous, Sue. That burns off a lot of your karma for free. You are blessed that you dont suppress your sexuality and double blessed because you are a loyal wife [Except if Johnny Depp is in Ireland LOL] It is shameful that people think you are with your husband for sex when you have had a 16 year marriage!!!

If only more young girls get your enthusiasm, the world would be a much happy place

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sue g
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posted November 08, 2005 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Such kind words you speak Iq which I dont deserve cos I give you a hard time, sometimes, dont I, or do you just take what I say with a little pinch of salt?

Yes I am a very enthusiastic person, in love and out.....I have a zest for life and revel in the devilment at times, so the others being jealous would somewhat amuse me....hahaha.

Johnny Depp indeed......nah I prob wouldnt if he came along......too old.....isnt he in his 40s now.......LOL !!!!

Love

Sue xx

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fayte.m
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posted November 08, 2005 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Iqhunk!
Funny thing is my husband has always preferred the company of older women!
The lady who wrote "TAROT Rebirth Of The Oracle" is much older than him and they begain their friendship when he was a teenager! She is I think some 21 years older than him! And I am 15 years older than him.
He has many other older lady friends!(I am actually his "youngest")In fact the young girls/women never turned him on because they were too into pretty boys and head games...
And macho sports/cars minded guys.
I know several other Cancer men like him.
But the ones who only liked younger women(now remember..I am speaking ONLY of Cancerian men I know and have known in person!)all drank themselves to death and were VERY unhappy in love! Very successful in Career and Business...but bad relationships destroyed them both before the age of 30.

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future_uncertain
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posted November 08, 2005 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I never felt old until recently. I gained 15 pounds in the last year, and I'm 5'5", so I don't carry it well.

I've weighed the same forever. I'm almost 29 now. Nothing fits and I don't feel like "me" anymore.

Getting older= slower metabolism, I guess. I'm miserable... don't want to go out anymore, taking a break from my bf because I just don't feel comfortable around him anymore (he says I'm beautiful and have nothing to worry about, but it's not enough. It's not about him.)

So this is how I feel about getting older. I'm terrified. I thought I would age gracefully... looked forward to the 30's, 40's, and beyond. But I can't accept myself with the weight gain. I didn't see it coming.

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Iqhunk
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posted November 09, 2005 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
<<But the ones who only liked younger women(now remember..I am speaking ONLY of Cancerian men I know and have known in person!)all drank themselves to death and were VERY unhappy in love! Very successful in Career and Business...but bad relationships destroyed them both before the age of 30. >>

Hi Fayte,
Sounds exactly like me, thats why I dont touch alcohol and am looking at hermeticism. Basically, I am destined to be unlucky in love with Saturn in Leo 5th house but Neptune, Ascendant and Saturn are in a 3 way trine and my dreamworld is far more real to me than reality atleast in sensations.
Thats why I am training myself to turn celibate in the real world and get myself a nice Astral wife, than be moping around with mind games and doll chasing and expesnive divorces etc.

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posted November 09, 2005 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
<<Such kind words you speak Iq which I dont deserve cos I give you a hard time, sometimes, dont I, or do you just take what I say with a little pinch of salt?>>
Every girl like you deserves the best Sue

I rarely care about what others tell me or think of me anyway. One should be objective to progress and objectivity demands filtering out that which we dont like in a post or speech or book and picking the useful kernel.
The only time I get annoyed is when someone says Matrix 1 is a bad movie

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Iqhunk
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posted November 09, 2005 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Future_Uncertain,
29 is the age when a girl starts getting incomparably sensous, sexy and erotic. This goes on till 36 which I think is the peak of loveliness, atleast in most actresses and models that I have seen.
Sort of like wine getting just right. It is upto you to maintain this right till your 60s. You have a Sue and Fayte fro inspiration.

I am going to be 29 next year and I still feel like a teenager sometimes.

Aging is just mind control. If you think you wont age you wont. So many techniques are there to deprogram us of this sickness.

15 pounds more? It has a lot to do with emotional isolation. If some jerk has hurt you and you sub consciously want to avoid relationships by making yourself a tad unattractive, the body responds by storing more fat.

So demand to yourself to be more attractive and you will automatically start losing weight. Jogging and avoiding those heavy chocolate sundaes helps too

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