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Topic: Borderline Personality Disorder
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Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 01, 2006 04:02 PM
Anyone have any experience with this? What are the symptoms? What are signs that this isn't the case as well. Any good resources for this on the net? Really would be grateful for any info. Thanks in advance. Swerve IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 01, 2006 04:28 PM
The therapist I see specializes in this (if you have any questions, I could ask her). I was recommended to her 'cause some other doc thought i had BPD. She says I dont, but she agreed to keep seeing me 'cause she really liked me. an ex of mine had/has BPD...
Serious mood swings ((jekyll and hyde stuff)) substance abuse codependency Astrologically, I dont know what would contribute to this, but she's got a Cancer moon in the 6th (Hello!!!!) and about a thousand planets in Scorpio, so... ------- from: http://www.mydna.com/health/mental/bpd/overview/symptoms.html Symptoms
While a person with depression or bipolar disorder typically endures the same mood for weeks, a person with BPD may experience intense bouts of anger, depression, and anxiety that may last only hours, or at most a day. These may be associated with episodes of impulsive aggression, self-injury, and drug or alcohol abuse. Distortions in cognition and sense of self can lead to frequent changes in long-term goals, career plans, jobs, friendships, gender identity, and values. Sometimes people with BPD view themselves as fundamentally bad, or unworthy. They may feel unfairly misunderstood or mistreated, bored, empty, and have little idea who they are. Such symptoms are most acute when people with BPD feel isolated and lacking in social support, and may result in frantic efforts to avoid being alone. People with BPD often have highly unstable patterns of social relationships. While they can develop intense but stormy attachments, their attitudes towards family, friends, and loved ones may suddenly shift from idealization (great admiration and love) to devaluation (intense anger and dislike). Thus, they may form an immediate attachment and idealize the other person, but when a slight separation or conflict occurs, they switch unexpectedly to the other extreme and angrily accuse the other person of not caring for them at all. Even with family members, individuals with BPD are highly sensitive to rejection, reacting with anger and distress to such mild separations as a vacation, a business trip, or a sudden change in plans. These fears of abandonment seem to be related to difficulties feeling emotionally connected to important persons when they are physically absent, leaving the individual with BPD feeling lost and perhaps worthless. Suicide threats and attempts may occur along with anger at perceived abandonment and disappointments. People with BPD exhibit other impulsive behaviors, such as excessive spending, binge eating and risky sex. BPD often occurs together with other psychiatric problems, particularly bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety disorders, substance abuse, and other personality disorders.
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redbubblesbleed Knowflake Posts: 213 From: highway to hell Registered: Jan 2006
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posted March 01, 2006 08:21 PM
Hello Swerve I saw your post, and search for some info on google- this page came first: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality_disorder_test.mv It's a Personality Disorder Test- Quoted: "This test is meant to help determine whether or not you have a personality disorder. It is not meant to be used as a diagnostic tool, but rather as a tool to give you insight into a potential disorder that may be having a negative impact on your life. If you believe you may be suffering from a personality disorder or any other disorder, you should ask your family doctor to recommend a therapist in your area to meet with." "A personality disorder is basically a set of traits that combine to negatively affect your life. They have a wide range of causes and some are easier to treat than others. This test is set up to look for the ten recongized personality disorders which are Paranoid, Schizoid, Schizotypal, Antisocial, Borderline, Histrionic, Narcissistic, Avoidant, Dependent, and Obsessive-Compulsive." Jeez... I think it was fate, 'cause I did it- and guess what?- In my results I got a "VERY HIGH" rating of Borderline-
I was very surprised (because I've never heard of this disorder) however, I can relate well to some of the sympthoms mentioned: -Difficulty controlling emotions or impulses -Frequent emotional ups and downs -Impulsive actions -Impulsive and self-damaging behaviors, such as overspending and substance abuse -Mood swings -Stormy relationships -Feeling of emptiness inside Unlike the mood changes in disorders such as depression and bipolar disorder, which may last for weeks or months, the mood swings in BPD generally last just hours. Guess... I'll have to think about this now
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pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 12:22 AM
I'm afraid to take a test and learn that I have this, so I will live in my land of denial and call myself special. IP: Logged |
sweetlibra Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted March 02, 2006 02:05 AM
Paranoid: Low Schizoid: Very High Schizotypal: Low Antisocial: Low Borderline: Moderate Histrionic: Moderate Narcissistic: Low Avoidant: Moderate Dependent: Moderate Obsessive-Compulsive: Low IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 02, 2006 02:45 AM
Disorder Rating Information Paranoid: Very High Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: Very High Antisocial: High Borderline: Very High Histrionic: Very High Narcissistic: High Avoidant: Very High Dependent: Very High Obsessive-Compulsive: High Seems I'm "extra-special" then Pix!!
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posted March 02, 2006 08:11 AM
Brah.I'm low for everything but "Schizotypal" (Moderate) - apparently b/c I get shy in some social situations, have been accused of being "eccentric", and can (honestly) sometimes tell when someone's in the room or nearby. I wouldn't take that test for too much. IP: Logged |
hot_ice Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted March 02, 2006 08:51 AM
Disorder | Rating Paranoid: High Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: High Antisocial: Low Borderline: Low Histrionic: High Narcissistic: High Avoidant: Moderate Dependent: Low Obsessive-Compulsive: Low He he,this test was fun.....gonna try out different combinations...
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salome Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Nov 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 11:06 AM
cute ~ interesting test....reminds me of barbara striesand's character 'daisy' in the film on a clear day you can see forever.... she tells the professor that she took a host of personality and psychological tests and her results were 1) well adjusted, and 2) no character... so if i score low on everything does that mean i have no chararcter? how uninteresting...i'm not even eccentric... he he.... ------------------ I want to turn the whole thing upside down I'll find the things they say just can't be found I'll share this love I find with everyone We'll sing and dance to Mother Nature's songs Jack Johnson Curious George Lullabies IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 02, 2006 11:54 AM
I could have gone either way on half of those questions. Paranoid: Moderate Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: Very High Antisocial: High Borderline: Moderate Histrionic: Very High Narcissistic: High Avoidant: Very High Dependent: Very High Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate
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Yang Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: A temporary home Registered: May 2004
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posted March 02, 2006 12:16 PM
Everything is LOW for me, except narcissistic, which is MODERATE!IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 02, 2006 01:08 PM
I ask becuase I have such unstable moods. I really can't predict how I will be feeling and I certainly can't "shake myself out of it" or "rise above it".Anti-depressants were a waste of time, and self-hypnois and reading has only made my intellect wiser, the emotions still boil out of control. I think it's a combination of extreme stress levels and poor coping skills. I'm trying stress tablets and St.Johns Wort as they are both herbal. After that it's a chat with the doctor. Feel like I'm trapped in a whirlwind of my own creation and anything in it's path gets destroyed (relationship-wise, never ever been violent even under extreme provocation). Astrologically, it all makes sense. Scorpio Moon in the 1st with Scorpio Ascendant (mood swings, uncontrollable or unconcealable emotion), with Neptune in Sagitarrius in the 1st as well (lack of self-identity, confusion), plus of course all wrapped up in a Pisces Sun shell that has no real boundaries.... I need a solution NOW! Swerve IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 7314 From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL Registered: May 2002
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posted March 02, 2006 01:30 PM
Hee hee.. Yang.. I am there with you...Paranoid: Low Schizoid: Low Schizotypal: Low Antisocial: Low Borderline: Low Histrionic: Low Narcissistic: Moderate Avoidant: Low Dependent: Low Obsessive-Compulsive: Low Personally, I think we all have some bend to us. Some have called me arrogant because I am sure of myself - or they same I am stubborn because I will not succumb to peer pressure or do ANYTHING that will cause harm to others or myself. **** The only two I hit on was the "has any one ever called you self-centered" and "Has anyone called you arrogant". Funny thing though.. my ex is a full blown Narcissist and yet that was the only one I scored a moderate on. I wonder if it took the potential to become a Narcissist to recognize the sickness in another so quicky OR if he rubbed off on my LMAO....
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salome Knowflake Posts: 1521 From: Registered: Nov 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 02:04 PM
dear Swerve ~i would suggest that you try bach flower essences...perhaps you could consult a flower essence practitioner to begin...or find the combination of essences that you need through your own research and intuition. they work very well with your intuition and you will find that you will choose the ones that you need, if you open your intuition to looking for what is appropriate for you. flower essences will assist you on so very many levels, and will open new doors of consciousness for you if you will be open to their subtle adjustment...they are so gentle, yet provide the most profound effect. they have helped me, and my emotions, like nothing else imaginable...i believed that meditation, yoga, breathing exercises would help at times...but sometimes it's a matter of performing these activities...and they do help, if you find the time and inclination to practice them. but using the essences is like a ladder to the above activities... you can find good websites, better books and much information on flower essences. i would suggest starting with rescue remedy, the bach combination of essences that helps smooth your emotions in times of turmoil or emergency. always a life saver! i also would suggest a few individual remedies if you're interested. love, light and blessings to you ~ salome ------------------ I want to turn the whole thing upside down I'll find the things they say just can't be found I'll share this love I find with everyone We'll sing and dance to Mother Nature's songs Jack Johnson Curious George Lullabies IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted March 02, 2006 02:22 PM
I tried the flower essences (recommended by Donna Cunningham, in her book, "Healing Pluto Problems"), but didnt give them a fair shake.I may be too restless, impulsive, forgetful, to remember and practice taking something every couple of hours (or whatever it is). Maybe I lacked faith in it. Or, I dont know, maybe I just experienced a "healing crisis", and tried to do too many things at once; it was that kind of time in my life. I'll give it another shot. Thanks, Salome. IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 02, 2006 02:55 PM
Salome - absolutely! That would be great thanks!I took the first St.Johns Wort about 3 hours ago, and my God the difference is immediate. I just feel more balanced. Could of course be the placebo effect, but I really coulnd't care less quite frankly. The difference between it and the anti-depressants I tried last year is that I feel like myself - only more so, no wavering, no wild thinking patterns. Early days yet, but its a great start I have to say! Swerve IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 02:59 PM
*hugs to swerve* That works as a placebo too, but it's a real one.IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 02, 2006 05:09 PM
....and it feels so much sweeter... Swerve x
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Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 2320 From: Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 05:50 PM
All mines were low except for Histronic that was Moderate...IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1356 From: santa monica, california Registered: May 2005
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posted March 02, 2006 08:25 PM
this is what i got:Disorder Rating Paranoid: Low Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: High Antisocial: Low Borderline: Moderate Histrionic: Low Narcissistic: Low Avoidant: Very High Dependent: High Obsessive-Compulsive: High IP: Logged |
thebigeliza Knowflake Posts: 379 From: star cluster Spica Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 05, 2006 02:10 AM
Hey these were my scores: Disorder Rating Information Paranoid: High Schizoid: Moderate Schizotypal: Very High Antisocial: Moderate Borderline: Very High Histrionic: High Narcissistic: Low Avoidant: High Dependent: Very High Obsessive-Compulsive: Moderate So according to this I am mostly Schizotypal,Borderline,Dependant.After I read through them all,I have to say I am stunned by how much I have in common with the whole Borderline one.Exactly everything it talks about,is what I have gone through since 2nd grade.I believe I can overcome this,Swerve,and all the rest of us too.By meditating on the good things in life,and by growing our own garden of peace within our centers,we will re-connect on a higher plane.Do you agree?If I am positive and aspire to become a more centered being,will I?Or do you think it would be safer to look into other forms of help,such as medication,or therapy?I have struggled with suicidal tendencies and low self-esteem since very young.I go through periods of a week Im alright,a week Im really depressed.Or sometimes it all happens in one day, three hours really full of energy,loud,want to run around,then three hours so depressed and sometimes,cant stop thinking about how I just dont want to do this anymore.Lately,I have been meditating more frequently during the day,and I havent gotten really down,now its more of a neutral feeling.I believe the meditations are working,and if I continue,I will overcome this illness and become a happy,healthy young woman.I would suggest that everyone experiencing any inner turmoil just take a few minutes out of your day to sit with yourself in silence.It really will create a peaceful,soothing release from the hardships of our earthly palace.I think maybe my borderline problems have to do with my sun,venus,mars in the 8th,and moon,merc,sat,pluto and south node in scorpio.I dont know if anything about those would make sense but somehow,I feel it contributes to it all. I feel for those of you going through this kind of stress.Swerve,I hope that you feel better soon.I have always seen your posts and I feel you on so many of the subjects talked of(love,relationships,personal turmoil).I think you sound like a really sweet,intelligent,and overall wonderful man.Any girl would be lucky to end up with a guy like you!I believe you will find your true love.I hope we all will.PeaceLove&Light Eliza jane Libra/Scorpio/Aquarius
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LibraSparkle Knowflake Posts: 6034 From: Vancouver USA Registered: May 2004
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posted March 05, 2006 03:15 AM
I got the same results as Prox (low everything but moderate Schizotypal)... only difference is that I don't feel shy in social situations.I can sense when others enter the room... and my behavior is considered eccentric by other people. Swerve darlin', My husband had a lot of the problems you're experiencing for most of his life. He didn't know people don't normally feel the way he felt most of the time. He tried anti-depressants... several different kinds. They didn't really help. Like you, he didn't feel like himself, and didn't like them. Finally, he found himself a good psychologist. He went twice a week for quite a while... and today he is much better for it. Like you said, astrologically speaking the mood swings make sense (but they don't have to BE). My hubby's a Taurus Sun, Libra Moon, Scorpio Rising. He would get in his moody funk, and not know how to get out of it. He would be stuck in a funk for days... if not weeks. Going to the psychologist helped him to learn the coping skills he needed. He learned how to acknowledge the funk when he felt it come upon him, and move along with his day. These kind of changes don't happen over night... but in tiny little baby steps. My advice to you, sweet Swervey, is to find a good shrink... someone who comes highly recommended, and work out your funk with him/her. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 6485 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 05, 2006 06:19 PM
Hi Swerve ~Your comment about St Johns Wort giving you immediate relief prompted me to check my “Prescription for Herbal Healing” reference book by Phyllis Balch. She recommends taking the SJW regularly for a minimum of 10 days to 2 weeks to see actual results for you as an individual. Here are some of her recommendations: quote: Keep cholesterol levels as close to normal as possible – low cholesterol levels are very strongly associated with anxiety and depression.Supplement your diet with Omega-3 fatty acids. Fish Oil and Flaxseed Oil can fill this need, also cold-water fish (salmon, tuna, mackerel). Borage or evening primrose oil is also helpful. Take 200mcg of chromium twice daily, and 500mg of vanadium once daily, both with a meal. These minerals assist in regulating blood-sugar levels and ensure a constant supply of glucose to the brain. Take 6 to 12 grams of inositol daily in 2 or 3 doses. This substance is a building block for chemicals that cause nerve-transmissions to activate brain cells. Take 300mg of phosphatidylserine daily. The brain depends on this compound more than any other cholesterol-based compound making up the lining of cells. It enables brain cells to use glucose efficiently and to capture and release neurotransmitters. It also protects cells from free radicals released when circulation to the brain is disturbed. Ask your doctor or pharmacist about SAMe (s-adenosylmethionine) – it’s a rapid, effective antidepressant with very few side effects. It acts by protecting brain cells against the effects of inflammation, and by increasing concentrations of the neurotransmitters serotonin and norepinephrine. Dosage must be set by a health-care professional. Get at least 20 minutes of sun exposure each day. Spending time in the sun slows the rate at which the brain breaks down serotonin. The brain equates spending time in dark places with sleep, for which less serotonin is needed. NEVER use a full-spectrum light-therapy box when taking khella, psoralea or St Johns Wort. These herbs may sensitize the retina to bright light and raise the risk of ocular damage from using the box. Avoid [a long list of stuff including coffee, cocaine, sleeping pills, alcohol, etc]. Also avoid nasal decongestants containing phenylpropanolamine, which has been known to induce psychiatric crises in people with depression or other mood disorders. Avoid processed foods. Avoid diet sodas and anything containing aspartame (Nutrasweet, Equal). This additive can block the formation of serotonin and cause headaches, insomnia and depression in individuals who are already serotonin-deprived. If you are nervous and wish to become more relaxed, consume more complex carbohydrates. For increased alertness, eat protein-based meals containing essential fatty acids. If you need your spirits lifted, eat foods like turkey or salmon, which are high in tryptophan and protein. [The SSRI’s don’t sound like your ticket to feeling better – they keep nerve cells from absorbing serotonin, which keeps more serotonin in the gaps between nerve cells. SSRI’s can cause wild dreams, hallucinations, and aggressive behavior, amongst a litany of other items such as sexual dysfunction, nausea, headaches and insomnia.] The discovery of the relationship between tryptophan and serotonin led to the beginning of an understanding of the relationship between food and mood. Tryptophan enters the brain more readily if blood-sugar levels are high. When the extra tryptophan reaches the brain, it is turned into serotonin that stops depression. Naturopathic medicine links depression to a shortage of a vitaminlike compound called tetrahydrobiopterin (BH4). This compound is needed for the creation of several neurotransmitters. Although BH4 is not available as a nutritional supplement, Vitamin C, folic acid, and vitamin B12 (cobalamin) stimulate the body’s production of BH4. B-vitamins are also known to increase the effectiveness of tricyclic antidepressants. Acupuncture is as effective as the MAO-inhibitors in controlling depression, but without the side effects…… Seasonal Attitude Disorder (SAD) is a condition in which the body is not exposed to enough sunlight to maintain normal levels of serotonin…… People with depression are more likely than other people to have various disturbances in calcium metabolism. People who smoke are more likely than non-smokers to be depressed. Steroid drugs may cause serotonin levels in the brain to drop.
I take 1000mg of Fish Oil, containing 180mg of EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) plus 1000mg of Flaxseed Oil (Omega-3 alphalinoleic acid, Omega-6 linoleic acid, Omega-9 oleic acid) plus 800iu of Vitamin E every morning in the winter when the days are shorter and we’re inside almost exclusively.Happier Trails to you! ‘Zala IP: Logged |
Swerve Knowflake Posts: 1249 From: London Registered: Nov 2002
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posted March 23, 2006 03:29 PM
Just got my diagnosis from the shrink.I have high-functioning BPD with ADD traits. Go figure. Seems my intellect has thwarted most of the symptoms but explains my intense reactions to frustration and loss. I have read and the shrink told me that both of these conditions actually mean I also have advantages in many areas over "normal thinkers". Thats cool, its nice to know insanity has its perks! Swerve IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 23, 2006 03:58 PM
effing right they do!Oh... was that the voice in my head? IP: Logged | |