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Moon666Child
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posted April 21, 2006 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.theregister.com/2006/04/21/moderator_liable_for_comments/


Randall, and mod squad, you need to know this. I am myself a global moderator on a paranormal forum and an admin on a spiritual forum, I guess we should keep guard and be responsible.

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pidaua
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posted April 21, 2006 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder if this applies to countries other than Germany? I am thinking that since LindaLand is based in the US, Germany has no authority over what we do and don't do. If they want to block out the site they can, similar to how China works.

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Moon666Child
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posted April 21, 2006 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
The idea was to take precaution whatsoever! Moreover, I guess Us is a place whre you get sued for anything and everything! The bane of free speech perhaps! :P


Anything is possible, better to take care, right?

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lioneye68
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posted April 21, 2006 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me

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WaterNymph
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posted April 22, 2006 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterNymph     Edit/Delete Message
Whoa

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trillian
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posted April 23, 2006 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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sued for anything and everything! The bane of free speech perhaps

The bane of free speech? Interesting that someone at a place meant to honor someone like Linda Goodman could even utter such a foolish thing.

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Johnny
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posted April 23, 2006 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
I know it's not my business, but that comment is confusing the heck out of me, Trillian.

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trillian
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posted April 23, 2006 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Free thought, ergo free speech, is a birthright, despite a government's ability to suppress it, publicly or privately. While I will certainly support the idea that all things exist within the Yin and Yang of life, capable of both light and dark, I cannot conceive of free speech being perceived as a curse.

Linda Goodman was quite outspoken on her beliefs, and was able to express them relatively freely, whether they were well-received or not. I suppose my earlier statement was meant to show the irony of saying the bane of free speech in a place meant to honor a woman whose life was built on the ability to express herself freely about subjects not accepted or understood by the majority of her fellow countrymen.

But I have to agree with you Johnny. I've confused the heck out of myself. For free speech to exist, it requires respect, tolerance and thick skin. People often think they have the right to take away another's right to free speech out of some ambiguous moral highground, or out of a need to control, or just out of a need to dictate manners.

Best Wishes.

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Johnny
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posted April 23, 2006 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Trillian, I get you now. I agree with you 100%, too. As usual.

I took Moon666Child's words to mean that lawsuits are the bane of free speech, rather than that the bane of free speech makes lawsuits necessary. I might be way off base, but I think that was what he was saying. Different interpretations of the same words, I guess. Or am I misinterpreting you, now?

Did I mention I like your signature?

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trillian
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posted April 24, 2006 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Johnny, you may be right, that I misinterpreted what Moon666Child said. In that case, I've created much ado about nothing. Though it's been awfully nice to have this small exchange with you; I always enjoy your posts very much, and when I make it to LL, I read them with great interest.

My sig line...thank you. It has personal significance.

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Moon666Child
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posted April 24, 2006 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
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The bane of free speech? Interesting that someone at a place meant to honor someone like Linda Goodman could even utter such a foolish thing.

I beg to differ.

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Mirandee
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posted April 24, 2006 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
There is a difference between "free speech" and verbal abuse.

As far as free speech being a birthright in the U.S., yes it is but as the saying goes *placing hand in front of face* "where his begins, your rights end."

Speaking one's mind honestly and giving one's opinion is great but no one has to put up with verbal abuse from others. Verbal abuse is not a birthright and some folks use "free speech" as a justification to verbally abuse others.

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Moon666Child
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posted April 24, 2006 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
^ I completely agree. but I also assume this is the same thing Trillian was mentioning too.

Now, in general I was refering to the irresponsible issues people make in the name of free speech.

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trillian
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posted April 24, 2006 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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a birthright in the U.S

Personally, I never qualified any of my statements by mentioning any countries. Free speech is a birthright, period, even if one is born in a country that restricts that birthright. All governments of which I'm aware suppress speech to some extent.

The ability to verbally abuse is a choice, and also a birthright. We hope that we don't grow into verbal abusers, but if we should, that's our choice. Whether or not someone accepts verbal abuse is also a choice. I would also say that verbal abuse is in the eye of the receiver; what I consider abuse, might not be to another.

If we always worried about whether or not we would offend others, our ability to change and grow would be restricted. Manners are nice, but sometimes one must fight by exercising his or her ability to speak freely.

I'm not fond of political correctness. It offends me.

But isn't it lovely to express one's self?

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Moon666Child
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posted April 24, 2006 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon666Child     Edit/Delete Message
You are right Trillian, so long the "respect" is maintained!

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trillian
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posted April 24, 2006 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting.

And who defines "respect?"

I used quotes only because you choose to use them.

Respect, too, is in the eye of the receiver.

Ain't life grand?

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Johnny
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posted April 24, 2006 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Johnny     Edit/Delete Message
Aww, Trillian, I don't know how to respond to that without sounding all gushy, so I'll just say "Thanks!"

But at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I agree with you about the freedom of expression thing. To say that free speech is a birthright "in the United States" is to contradict the entire enlightened premise that our Founding Fathers had in mind when they formed this country! They recognized, rightly, that human beings are endowed with such things by our creator, and that these truths are self evident!

Ooh, waxing Constitutional. Better stop.

@ Trillian!

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lalalinda
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posted April 24, 2006 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
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trillian
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posted April 25, 2006 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Wax away, Johnny. I enjoy it. I love your spirit. Write to me anytime.

lalalinda...it's been too long. Please write to me sometime soon. I'm eager to hear how you and the kids are, and what's happening in your life.

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WaterNymph
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posted April 25, 2006 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WaterNymph     Edit/Delete Message
Linda’s free speech beliefs are admirable. Though in some areas of star signs she seemed to have forgotten opinions are subjective. Anyway, I doubt she would have sold millions if she verbally abused people in her books. With age comes wisdom I suppose. Guess I’ve still got a long way to go

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