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Topic: Kurt Cobain, and Sebastian Wahl Collages
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted July 23, 2006 01:37 PM
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thebigeliza Knowflake Posts: 379 From: star cluster Spica Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 20, 2007 10:19 AM
I just saw this...and love them.Thanks Heart shaped cross for sharing Love and Light to you Eliza Libra/Scorpio/AquariusIP: Logged |
Bluemoon Knowflake Posts: 4456 From: Stafford, VA USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted February 20, 2007 10:48 AM
Thanks, Heart!! I really love this site. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 20, 2007 10:49 AM
You're Welcome, Eliza and Bluemoon.Love and Light, Stephen Scorpio/Aquarius/Capricorn ------------------ 'Would you know your Lord's meaning in this thing? Know it well. Love was his meaning. Who showed it to you? Love. What did he show you? Love. Why did he show it? For love. Keep yourself therein and you shall know and understand more in the same. But you shall never know nor understand any other thing, forever.' - Julian of Norwich
'My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love. Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others.' - Chief Dan George 'Judgment is the antithesis of understanding, and hatred of evil is the craftiest and least well-known of vices, so easily is it mistaken for love of good.' - Heart-Shaped Cross 'What keeps most people from suffering very much is lack of imagination.... Everything great that we know has come from neurotics. It is they and only they who have founded religions and created great works of art. Never will the world be aware of how much it owes to them, nor, above all, what they have sufferred in order to bestow their gifts upon it.' - Marcel Proust 'In the psychopathic temperament we have the emotionality which is the sine qua non of moral perception; we have the intensity and tendency to emphasis which are the essence of practical moral vigor; and we have the love of metaphysics and mysticism which carry one's interests beyond the surface of the sensible world. What, then, is more natural than that this temperament should introduce one to regions of religious truth, to corners of the universe, which your robust Philistine type of nervous system, forever offering its biceps to be felt, thumping its breast, and thanking Heaven that it hasn't a single morbid fibre in its composition, would be sure to hide forever from its self-satisfied possessors? If there were such a thing as inspiration from a higher realm, it might well be that the neurotic temperament would furnish the chief condition of the requisite receptivity.' - William James http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/Alem7/chart1.gif http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/Alem7/steve5.jpg http://www.myspace.com/thapigeonhole IP: Logged |
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 1976 From: Arizona Registered: Jul 2006
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posted February 20, 2007 11:25 AM
Thats cool, you have a certain affection for Cobain like I have an affection for Carangi(both tragic cases) ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted February 20, 2007 12:27 PM
there's always the possibility...that Cobain's soul came to you Heart--Shaped Cross... it is a possiblitiy and the prophecies speak of the dead having risen this just means souls remember who they have been and since the pieces were split 7 for her 7 for him we need 7 pieces to be whole... sometimes, I feel people really don't want me to respond.. my answers are always the same and people are tired of hearing me it doesn't change because it is the Truth... anyway, I really think that that it is possibility a feeling I have intuition... LOts of LOve to ALL IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 21, 2007 08:17 AM
“Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.” ~ Plato "I found it hard. It's hard to find. Oh, well. Whatever. Nevermind... What else could I write? I don't have the right. What else should I be? All Apologies."
~ Kurt Cobain Lotus, Since I first heard his music, 17 years ago, I have felt a profound affinity with Kurt. His Moon is trine my Sun/Venus/MC/Uranus, his Ascendant is trine my Ascendant, his Venus is conjunct my SouthNode, my moon is semi-sextile his Sun. All of these inter-aspects are within a degree or two, and these are just a few of our inter-aspects. I have never identified with anyone as closely as I identified with Kurt. hsc
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted February 21, 2007 08:24 AM
I got the chills..heheyou are very magical... Heart--Shaped Cross. ... IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 21, 2007 08:50 AM
It was his birthday yesterday.IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted February 21, 2007 08:54 AM
oh my gosh, and I said this to you yesterday, without knowing that, honestly....WOW! only you know..it's within you. ... but, wow, what a sign IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 21, 2007 10:31 AM
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Gemini Nymph Knowflake Posts: 2216 From: Registered: Jul 2004
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posted February 21, 2007 12:07 PM
If I had a dollar for everyone who claims they have a deep spiritual bond or affinity with Cobain. Some people can't see the difference between pseudo-spiritual adoration with celebrity and an actual spiritual connection, but whatever. The man shot his face off - that should clue people in that he didn't want to connect with them the way they claimed to connect with him. Cobain's fans were parasites (and still are). Given his Piscean energies, and his 7th house, he no doubt drew parasites to him in droves, and it alienated him profoundly. Nice to see this tradition of soul leeching is being carried on well after his death. And in case I'm not being enough of an a$$hole, I think those collages are garish, ugly and pretentious. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted February 21, 2007 12:17 PM
Nice Kite!I don't know much about Cobain.. Heart--Shaped Cross... ignore the negative people here... Some things will never be understood by some... I didn't know he took his own life..that's very sad..and it's an issue you have dealt with... another connection..things to be worked on... continued... in your writing, Stephen. ... or lyrics, which ever the case may be... . IP: Logged |
castlegirl Knowflake Posts: 122 From: croatia Registered: Jan 2007
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posted February 21, 2007 02:14 PM
"A careless word may kindle strife A cruel word may wreck a life A timely word may level stress A loving word may heal and bless"Kurt Cobain, Rest in peace Stephen, IP: Logged |
Lialei Knowflake Posts: 1887 From: blank canvas Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 21, 2007 02:38 PM
Gemini Nymph, Parasite is a pretty extreme conclusion based on little information. Have you taken other possibilities into consideration? Such as that, Stephen is possibly drawn to Kurt for empathising the very Neptunian Crosses to bear in life that you describe?Surely Kurt had many parasites in his life, especially pronounced for his celebrity...I agree with that assessment. (having my Sun conjunct Neptune in the 7th, I can easily see that being a challenge he had to face--although I could never think of anyone as a parasite, so maybe Kurt coudln't either). But, without knowing HSC's perception of Kurt, it isn't fair to include him in with the mob. Love to you on what would have been your 40th, fellow Fire Ram Kurt.
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 22, 2007 09:13 AM
GemNymph,Your comments only illustrate one thing, which is how little understanding a person such as yourself could possibly have of a soul as complex, dynamic, and emotional as Kurt's, and of the kind of empathy and sense of identification with him which may be felt by another sensitive individual like myself. I could try to explain a dozen things to you. I could talk about my sun/venus in the 9th house, and how it is common for natives with these placements to love and identify with people who are personally unknown to them, as there is an attunement to the more impersonal values of the higher mind. I could talk about Kurt's own attunement to the outer planets, which are generational in influence. His chart is incredible; it is no wonder that many people feel understood by him. I could try to explain to you what it means to be sensitive and romantic, compassionate and truth-loving, in this insensitive world. But would you care? You say the collage is garrish. Fine. I am not in love with it myself. But, to me, your words are a thousand times more ugly. Don't you know that cruelty is the most hideous thing of all? Don't you know that much? And can't you see that what is most beautiful in that collage is the love and respect it shows for its subject? Or does your heartless critic's eye only take into account the balance of form, color, and line? I wrote this for Kurt some years ago. I understood all that you understood, GN, and, I believe, a great deal more: Empathy For The Devil
Kurt Cobain, you're so vain. - Humble to a fault. Don't you see the irony?; Humility exalts. Such pride demands disparity, And you, Identified with to your shame, Ambitious for some elite obscurity,- How bitter was your sudden fame?; How steep, descent from such a height - I know you wanted to be Rilke, - When, o'ershadowed by very light, An angel of another ilk? Poor Kurt Cobain, profoundly vain, Martyring yourself. - We watched you give it all away, To beg for something else. HSC
------------------ 'Would you know your Lord's meaning in this thing? Know it well. Love was his meaning. Who showed it to you? Love. What did he show you? Love. Why did he show it? For love. Keep yourself therein and you shall know and understand more in the same. But you shall never know nor understand any other thing, forever.' - Julian of Norwich 'My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love. Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others.' - Chief Dan George 'Judgment is the antithesis of understanding, and hatred of evil is the craftiest and least well-known of vices, so easily is it mistaken for love of good.' - Heart-Shaped Cross 'What keeps most people from suffering very much is lack of imagination.... Everything great that we know has come from neurotics. It is they and only they who have founded religions and created great works of art. Never will the world be aware of how much it owes to them, nor, above all, what they have sufferred in order to bestow their gifts upon it.' - Marcel Proust 'In the psychopathic temperament we have the emotionality which is the sine qua non of moral perception; we have the intensity and tendency to emphasis which are the essence of practical moral vigor; and we have the love of metaphysics and mysticism which carry one's interests beyond the surface of the sensible world. What, then, is more natural than that this temperament should introduce one to regions of religious truth, to corners of the universe, which your robust Philistine type of nervous system, forever offering its biceps to be felt, thumping its breast, and thanking Heaven that it hasn't a single morbid fibre in its composition, would be sure to hide forever from its self-satisfied possessors? If there were such a thing as inspiration from a higher realm, it might well be that the neurotic temperament would furnish the chief condition of the requisite receptivity.' - William James http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/Alem7/chart1.gif http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/Alem7/steve5.jpg IP: Logged |
thebigeliza Knowflake Posts: 379 From: star cluster Spica Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 22, 2007 10:45 AM
You move me HSC.Love and light to you Eliza Libra/Scorpio/Aquarius http://kurdt.wz.cz/photo/nirvana_36.jpg http://kurdt.wz.cz/photo/nirvana_25.jpg IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 22, 2007 02:43 PM
Thank you. Nice pics. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 22, 2007 02:47 PM
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Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 23, 2007 07:08 AM
Thank you lotus, castlegirl, and Lia.IP: Logged |
1scorp Knowflake Posts: 2251 From: Registered: Feb 2003
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posted February 23, 2007 02:00 PM
From your pictures on this site... you really resemble him. _________________________________________ Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus Libra moon, pluto, and asc. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 7178 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 23, 2007 02:12 PM
Correction, he resembles me. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 1976 From: Arizona Registered: Jul 2006
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posted February 23, 2007 03:00 PM
I don't know why people think it's a bad thing to feel a connection to someone famous and dead, he did have his good points and influence(even if the death was tragic). I say this because of my OWN feelings toward a certain famous dead model...------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer I "FEEL" therefor I am IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 3521 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted February 23, 2007 11:06 PM
Sell the kids for food weather changes moods Spring is here again reproductive glandsHey - He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Don't know what it means, when I say: He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means when I say aahh ... We can have some more - nature is a ***** Bruises on the fruit - tender age in bloom Hey - He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Don't know what it means, when I say: He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means when I say aahh ... He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it mean's when I say: He's the one Who likes all our pretty songs And he likes to sing along And he likes to shoot his gun But he knows not what it means Knows not what it means [x2] Knows not what it means when I say aahh ... Steve knows what he means...
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Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 4812 From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer Registered: Sep 2004
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posted February 24, 2007 12:12 PM
Didn't Kurt Cobain ultimately commit suicide due to a severe stomach problem that caused him a great deal of pain throughout his life? It is my understanding that he could not find any prescribed medication that helped the pain which was the main reason he got addicted to drugs. Severe pain on a daily basis can do that to people. It becomes unbearable and very depressing. Added to that was the fact that he did not like the fame and all that went with it. My son, who is a big fan of Cobain, said he was the type of musician who liked playing in small clubs to small groups of people rather than crowds. IP: Logged |