posted December 13, 2006 08:40 AM         

fat=heart attacks...breathing problems..lower life span,diabetes..cancer,kidney failure..skeletal problems...later in life..

all of us have made fun of people and have been made fun of,it's a part of life...

posted December 13, 2006 09:16 AM         

I was being compassionate

I work as a healer and meet lots of people who are struggling,so they fall back on things...booze, drugs and food.....

Of course you are right, it's not good or healthy...

posted December 13, 2006 12:58 PM         

I'm sure some would argue, but in my generation, Madonna was the pioneer of using her sexuality as a marketing tool. Her voice was nothing special back then. As someone else said here.. Pop is all about shaking your butt & dancing anyway.

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I grew up as a skinny kid with a fat family. it was very sad growing up hearing my grandma or aunt ridiculed for being over-weight, but they had a great sense and never ashamed or angry.

food was very important in our family, big fatty dinners, desserts...nothing in moderation! i'm proud i grew up with those fat people, they showed me there is more to life than physical appearance.

i am concerned from a health point of view however.

posted December 13, 2006 01:07 PM         

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food was very important in our family, big fatty dinners, desserts...nothing in moderation! i'm proud i grew up with those fat people, they showed me there is more to life than physical appearance.

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that's a profound insight, Lovely. that's love the way it should be -- abundant and limitless.

there are unhealthy skinny people too...

posted December 13, 2006 01:51 PM         

Amen!

posted December 13, 2006 03:00 PM         

Would have loved a big round mother who I could have snuggled up to.......skinny mothers dont seem so comforting to me somehow....that is just me, being my Moon in Taurus sensual, snuggly, huggy,,,,me...

posted December 13, 2006 03:46 PM         

Some people, on account of how they were raised, their physiognomy (a stronger instinct to eat), and any number of reasons, turn to food as a means of coping with stress.

Others, like yourself, evidently, get rude, hateful (i.e. "I hate fergy" - why? because she "gets on my nerves"), and intolerant of others. We all have our faults. We all cope with stress in healthy and unhealthy ways. Some do it by being sendentary (relaxing) and some do it by excercising (staying active). Some disrespect themselves, some disrespect others. Some try to understand those who get on their nerves, others, refusing to respectfully consider a perspective which contradicts their own, just bark their hatred.

I know you will laugh at this, but, in truth, laziness is a great affliction. It is not a free choice. It corresponds to an abundant influence of the softer, more introverted planets (The Moon, Venus, and Neptune). These are also what make people gentle, understanding, and forgiving. You seem to lack an abundance of these energies, which is why you are intolerant of the fault of laziness in others, but not of the fault of intolerance in yourself, which you, no doubt, regard as a virtue.

You talk about burning off energy. "Kinda obvious huh?" What is obvious to me is that the sendentary lifestyle is an effect of an inner disposition, and not the cause of it. These people who burn off energy have strong mars energies in their charts. Kinda obvious huh?

It is a psychological fact, that those who are most in need of help are also those least capable of helping themselves. Unfortunately, it is a sociological fact, that people like yourself will tend to prey upon those helpless individuals who lack the direction and motivation (i.e. the ability) to help themselves.

"all of us have made fun of people
and have been made fun of,
it's a part of life..."

As is ignorance and insensitivy.
Does that mean we ought to defend them?
Or, perhaps, join the struggle for a better life?

No, my friend is not "fat". She is a registered nurse practitioner who works with victims of traumatic sexual abuse. She was told this statistic in school. I was very disbelieving of it myself, but she assures me, it is documented. She happens to be a very skeptical, scientifcally minded individual. Also, I'd like to point out that the word I used in this case is "obese" which signifies something more serious than being "overweight".

posted December 14, 2006 12:38 AM         

life will be booring...

P.S:you have free will...Mr.mars isnt stopping fat people from getting any excercise...I understand if it's due to medical reasons..people usually do..nobody picks on them then...

posted December 14, 2006 12:56 AM         

sueg, good word "convivial" I had to look the word up. I like words that describe big sentences!

convivial \kuhn-VIV-ee-uhl\, adjective:
Relating to, occupied with, or fond of feasting, drinking, and good company; merry; festive

posted December 14, 2006 01:36 AM         

thank you for the positive, merry and festive vibes.

posted December 14, 2006 03:27 AM         

but how is this for good art?

posted December 14, 2006 03:32 AM         

Neptune,

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posted December 14, 2006 04:00 AM         

she describes some of these people as having a 'propensity toward chronic fatigue syndrome' (i.e. 'laziness') and overweight issues because of this extreme sensitivity and vulnerability 'to toxic energies and energy drains.'

the key, she says, is for these types of people to attend to their energy needs by regularly practicing 'energy shielding and clearing techniques.'

so many of them are overwieght, she states, for reasons 'not due to overeating, but because they're energetically shielding themselves with fat. they have difficulty losing weight, even with stringent dieting or exercise.'

she says that it's important to use shielding techniques, 'otherwise you're liable to put on extra body fat to protect and insulate yourself. the extra fat doesn't necessarily come from overeating, and you'll find that the weight doesn't budge in response to dieting and exercise. however, the padding is a form of protection that you can swap for a layer of protective energy, or shielding'.

as for the 'laziness' factor, this is related to the absorption of negative energies that a highly sensitive person picks up from others, esp without the use of the shielding technique. the remedy for this is what Doreen calls 'clearing'. 'fatigue is the main symptom of absorbing these lower energies. this type of fatigue doesn't respond to caffeine, naps or exercise. the sensation of profound tiredness is chronic, because it's coming from sources foreign to your physical body. don't worry though: you can easily remove the cause, as well as its effect of fatigue.' this may be accomplished with energy clearing techniques.

so there you have some very good causes and effects for overweight and laziness issues. guilt and will power have no place in this arena. what does is understanding, and an alternative point of view.

should anyone be interested in these shielding or clearing techniques, i will type them up for you here, happily. or relay them through email if you prefer.

love 'n light everybody,
naiad

posted December 14, 2006 04:31 AM         

also, in the body, we tend to collect fat in areas we are weak..if we are taking regular amounts of ibuprofen for example, we tend to collect fat/ or a barrier towards sheilding this toxin. = we collect upper belly bulge.

fat is a means to support the body. it's interesting to see how we all store it differently, based on our humanly need.

more later...

posted December 14, 2006 10:06 AM         

Unless you know the facts about every single overweight person that you encounter... Try to refrain from your petty assumptions.

I have a hard time dealing with laziness. These opinions seem a little mentally and morally lazy.

My definition of laziness is: No mental, emotional problems... just expects others to do for/support them without any contribution (short definition: freeloaders/princess syndrome) Or can not be bothered to develop a little compassion or empathy.

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Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus
Libra moon, pluto, and asc.

posted December 14, 2006 10:46 AM         

I've heard of the Middle Pillar Ritual,
but I'm too "lazy" to perform it.
Maybe its time i made that extra effort.

I'm definitely one of these people, although I'm not significantly overweight. Most verbal communication between people sounds hostile to me, just because I am so sensitive to the less-than-gentle vibrations in people's voices. I'm always asking people to stop fighting, and they look at me like i'm nuts. "We're not fighting," they say, continuing to wrestle with each other's egos in endless attempts to be "right" at the other's expense, raising their own voices to drown the other's out, and snapping at each other for making the simple mistakes that are part of all mortal attempts to communicate. Urgh!

*Deeeeeeep Breath*

I'm okay.

hsc

posted December 14, 2006 11:30 AM         

you should hear me fighting...

anybody can give reasons about a lot of things....ultimately..what people see is waht defines you to them for a very long time....facts of life.period.

posted December 14, 2006 12:40 PM         

louise hay has great insight on this topic.

more later.

love, naiad

posted December 14, 2006 04:06 PM         

[QUOTE}Neptune,
Maybe you felt a deepness in humanity, but you also recognized his potential to use his power for something more. IN his case he used it for bad- not good. It isn't a reflection on you. I believe you felt as though he could change things for the better.

I also think you may be sad at the state of the world- meaning, how could we be witnessing assassinations on this level?

Your humanity is great- I don't think you will ever lose it.[/QUOTE]

My sadness at the state of the world makes me more active in pursuing a human equilibrium, a level of equality for all men and women. My humanity just grows, and blooms likea flower. I don't think someone with sufficient knowledge of me would ever post what you posted or "tried" to say, so maybe its jealousy, my instincts on that aren't really definite right now, but I can't change someone being envious or jealous of my person, my ability to love, and my spiritual position. This is one big reason of several humanity can't achieve, because they haven't learned to accept themselves. And this is what astrology gives us, its a tool of "Self-Acceptance", its definitely a journey, we have to encounter for ourselves with the help of other fellow members of the human race.

posted December 14, 2006 07:53 PM         

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Lauren, what an assumption.

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I wasn’t assuming.

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You know what, how dare you?

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Freedom of speech. If I did not *dare* express an opinion, we’d have a democratic problem, wouldn’t you agree?

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What the hell are you addressing?

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Your countless posts about marrying famous men.

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Your point is completely wrong and off.

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It is? I was under the impression, judging by your last question, that you didn’t understand what my point was.

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And I thought with my Sagittarius Mercury and my Moon Square Mars I needed to think before I spoke, but I guess i've ran into someone a little far beyond that.

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Oh don’t worry hun, you’ve still got it. I posted one sentence, you posted an entire paragraph.

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You obviously don't know me.

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No I don’t. I don’t ‘know’ anyone on here. I can only go on the threads I have seen.

The threads you have in GU concentrate very much on politics (usually American politics) and not all that much on humanity, but ok.

The threads you have in soul unions are mainly about the famous older men who you see as potential husbands to be. I haven’t seen anyone else on here make that many threads about famous men whom they hope to marry, but that’s ok as well.. guess it’s an age thing.. perfectly fine.. I don’t mind, but do not go jumping down my throat for stating the obvious.

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This is what i'm devoting my life too, emergency & pediatric

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That’s great. I’m glad. I’m studying law.. My cousin studies psych, my ex bf’s mum is a nurse, my best friend is a secretary and my dog is trained to bark should someone try to break in.
In this world, we all do our bit, in one way or another. It’s the beauty of human (or animal) diversity.

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I've also said more than plenty of times on these forums that our invisible children are our true victims of society, because of war, violence, crime, domestic, spousal, and child abuse, and neglect

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And I know someone who has worked with physically abused kids for months but said absolutely nothing about it up until the other day when it popped up in conversation. I was surprised, but they said, it seemed so natural to them, so much a part of their lives, it didn’t even occur to them to mention it.

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Nursing in world clinics for national and international crises and as a psychologist I will work against war and violence and chronicle the psychological development of human evolution

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I sincerely hope that you do. The will in itself would perhaps earn you a spiritual badge of honour were it not for the countless mentions of your wanting to help, which earn you absolutely no material badges of honour in my book.

If I felt like it, I could say I want to be the first female president, and hope that people would respect me for it.
But respect is earned for the person you are, not the person you plan on being. Simply because actions speak much louder than words.
You said I did not know you. The last paragraph has not let me in on anything about your personality other than the things you ‘want to do’ in your life. They are nice things, but they are not done yet. And if they are to be achieved (and I really hope they will be), try to keep in mind that humility will go a much longer way than ego.

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Just because this thread chronicled an artist verses a "royal" means absolutely nothing to the genuine agenda to my point, it has to do with human identity

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My statement was not about this thread alone, and what you just said seems untrue, taken in its context.
I do not know you, however, you must admit logically, that your posts make you seem much more fascinated by famous people in contrast to the rest of humanity. If this was not true, then perhaps you’d post more threads about your friendly neighbourhood garbage collector, and less about the famous men you have good synastry with.

So.. question: Do you want to help the world from a superior stand point or an equal one?
The first thing about being a humanitarian being is understanding the equality inherent in human nature. In that sense, marrying a president or the aforementioned friendly neighbourhood garbage collector (who incidentally could have much better synastry with you) should make no difference.. They are both human, human males and they deserve the same amount of respect and affection for being human.

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the reality of it now, fame - money - glory - royalties mean absolutely nothing especially when your neighbour doesn't acknowledge you neither knows, loves, or believes in his "self"

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First of all, if they mean absolutely nothing why do you mention them in almost every thread you post? And secondly maybe your neighbour would acknowledge you if you said ‘hi’. It’s a great idea. Why post about it? Try it! Say ‘good day’ to that garbage collector next time you see him, you never know.. Good things come in all sorts of packages, not only presidential ones.

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My love runs deep, it runs real deep, and for you to insult me like that without proper knowledge of well known facts on LindaLand about me, who I am, and what I stand for, is completely ludicrous.

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Love is patient, Love is kind,
It does not envy, it does not boast,
It is not proud, It is not rude,
It is not self-seeking,
It is not easily angered,
It keeps no record of wrongs.

However, ego does.

Saying your love runs deep in an ego-soaked sentence is slightly hypocritical.

Love does not take insult, therefore I couldn’t have insulted your love. Pride on the other hand can be insulted, and it is the pride that you take in being loving that was insulted.

I’m sorry you took what I said as an insult. It is an opinion. LindaLand is a forum. I do not live here. Neither do you. I am not under any sort of obligation to you or anyone else to read every single one of your threads in order to express an opinion.

So my opinion, based on those threads of yours which I have read, is that you are concentrating too much on famous people and being in the lime light and not enough on the actual substance beneath that limelight. This could be true, it could be wrong. I have absolutely no idea, because like you said I do not know you.

The question is, “Is it humanitarian concern or worldly ambition that drives you?” I’m not asking this to offend you at all, I just think it’s something you should ask yourself. The answer could be either and you are still young – even if it is partially worldly ambition now (or the dream of marrying a powerful man), you could easily grow out of this and become humanitarian as time progresses.
Your success could be achieved with either of those in mind, but on a spiritual level you’d be better off with the former.

There are many people in the world. They won’t always agree with you. They can sometimes be suspicious of your motives. They will not think you are the best thing since sliced bread as soon as you walk through the door or proclaim your love and the many beautiful humanitarian projects you have. Certain things need to actually be done, rather than talked about. So if you truly want to care for humanity and people, you should start by caring for yourself enough to leave your ego behind.
For instance, in this situation.. if you *know* my words are untrue, if you *know* my opinion is wrong.. then chuck it down to just that ‘the wrong opinion of someone on a board who does not know you’. No need to jump the gun in defending yourself, because, do you know the good thing about it? If you do these things, I’ll see it.. we all will, and people will know, and it will shut me up regardless.