posted December 11, 2006 06:04 PM         

Does anyone agree, feel the same about this, or have an opposing view? Please post

posted December 11, 2006 06:10 PM         

I don't know if she has any connection with Brittain, but it may be good marketing to go for that market while retaining the American audience.

posted December 11, 2006 06:41 PM         

She is still with the BEP, is still sucessful and together she makes their sound more unique.
Props to both 'fergie' and the rest of the dudes. I like their sound a lot.

Lots of artists have more to say than a band identity... she was in a band before the BEP... is it disrespectful to them to find something other than that?
You are more than what you bring to a whole, there are other things she probably wanted to say.
In terms of disrespect... I don't think it's disrespectful, I think it's cute. It's like a tribute... the press dubbed Sarah 'Fergie', she didn't dub herself... so would you say the press were being disrespectful when they did that, and created a super persona that people recognize? Duchess is a marketing ploy I imagine.
"Brangelina/Bennifer" comes to mind, when I say this.

No disrespect from me, but I didn't see anything disrespectful about saying your own thing outside of a group mentality. Good for her. I'm sure the boys wish her well and will be happy as she continues to tour with them, and be a part of her life.

posted December 11, 2006 08:46 PM         

And I'm not using the word "moron" as filler. Have you read the lyrics?

I was never a huge fan of the BEP's, but it does seem that their original message has transformed into something different from what I perceived it to be.

Fergie's trash. Catchy, rich, pop trash.

T-t-t-t-t-tastey, Tastey.

And if you're a fan... don't get your feathers too ruffled. I go around singing it and dancing to it. But to defend her as a reputable artist? Naw...

posted December 11, 2006 08:59 PM         

On one hand, one can say that the artist has to stay true to his/her tune and continue on with the style and taste that relates to his/her fans. This way, teh artist has a coherent image and doesn't appears as a sellout to the mass media industry.

On the other hand, the artist should have the option to grow out of his/her medium to explore other options that may appeal to a new generation of fans as well keep the old ones satisfied.

A good example would be Canada's Nelly Furtado. Her old style usually revolved around folk music as which can be seen in her song "Powerless."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUqfdwI6qWc&mode=related&search=

However, her new album explores a whole new area and what some consider more "Pop media" and less music. I however say that her growth as an artist has been tremendous as she explores different ideas for her songs.

Just take a look at her song "Maneater."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUqfdwI6qWc&mode=related&search=

posted December 12, 2006 01:28 AM         

They're ALL Madonna wanna-be's...including Fergie.

posted December 12, 2006 02:44 AM         

its POP music- something to shake your a$$ to-

I really can't take this thread seriously.
It makes me laugh, so that's something.

There MUST be some "really deep conspiracy" here...maybe Fergie is really Princess Di! Whoa!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

posted December 12, 2006 03:47 AM         

Fergie and Di were prob the only ones with a sense of humour. I think Fergie would somehow be "tickled" by this...she strikes me as a woman of humour.

When I was 16 i used to get very involved in things that I dont now, so I understand your passion neptune.....

posted December 13, 2006 12:02 AM         

I was talking to my aunt-in-law the other day complaining about this topic and her 8 year old said that this is normal behaviour and that everyone does that!

posted December 13, 2006 01:14 AM         

:rotfl:

posted December 13, 2006 02:01 AM         

Late night talk shows disrespect celebs all the time for a cheap laugh. They dish out blatant insults, which is far worse than Fergie calling her album "Dutchess" (in a cute nod of acknowledgement to the fact that there is another famous "Fergie"). I'm not saying they should stop, but, in a perfect world, we could find other things to laugh at besides the flaws and would-be private lives of singled-out individuals.

What makes me cringe is every time I hear a stand-up comic deliver a "fat joke". I can't help but empathize with all the people out there who I imagine must be hurt by the joke, and the sound of ensuing hysterics at their expense. Perhaps the strongest prejudice alive today is against overweight people.

My friend told me there is a statistic which predicts that 90% of all obese people were molested as children. The extra weight is to make themselves unattractive to predators and anyone who might re-open old wounds by getting too close.

In any case, there are definite biological, environmental, and psychological reasons for obesity, - a fact which most people are not aware of, and the ignorance of which persuades them that obesity is somehow a personal choice (and, many believe, an immoral one), and that, for this reason, it is perfectly acceptable to poke fun at it.

I find it odd that, if someone is sensitive to a joke made at their expense, they are told that they are "too sensitive". They are expected to lighten up. But suggest that a comic is too insensitive and you are accused of being a prude. Insensitivy in comics is lauded and termed "irreverence". They argue that their aim is to desensitize the audience and get people to laugh good-naturedly at themselves. But sensitivity is real. People are sensitive. And no one has the right to decide what you should or should not be sensitive about, or to insult you and hurt your feelings as a means to make you as insensitive as themselves.

It's like what Ellen Degeneres said about people who hurt your feelings and say, 'I'm only kidding,': "Well, then you dont know how to kid properly, 'cause we should both be laughing,".

Again, I'm not saying they should stop making those jokes, but, if you are going to earn your livelihood by hurting people's feelings, you ought to do it consciously (and not under the pretense that it is "for their own good"), or not at all.

posted December 13, 2006 05:36 AM         

90% of all over weight people were molested?

this is fact:90% of all over weight people are lazy. period.

The others have some medical problems.

anyway..on fergie..atleast she didnt have a sex change operation like metallica.

posted December 13, 2006 06:50 AM         

I thought one of the reasons people became overweight was because they ate too much.

Lazy? I know a few workaholics who are very LARGE!!!

posted December 13, 2006 06:55 AM         

Not that they are hated as much as Diana-sympathisers and Charles-haters would have you believe (not talking about you Sue of course, just in general over here).

They are becoming more irrelevant though, and quite frankly the real Fergie is an embarrassment to this country without class or form. She was an attention-hog who did nothing in return for her priveleges, which is something Charles can NEVER be accused of.

Besides, the US always bloats up its music and movie stars in an effort to create their own version of a Royal Family.

This is just a much more direct version of that.

the "King" anyone........

posted December 13, 2006 07:59 AM         

It's the kind of work...

A lot of people eat a lot..but they burn it off...

Some people eat very little...they ge fat though..medical issues etc..

talking about couch potatoes...people who eat too much included..if you spend all the energy you take in..you dont stay fat..

Where did I get that from...it's kinda obvious huh?

but 90% of all children were molested?..naah..maybe 90% of all molested children become fat..cause of various reasons...

posted December 13, 2006 08:33 AM         

Maybe they are lonely and in need of attention

Maybe its instead of doing drugs and booze

Maybe its for comfort....

Fat is not bad...people ridicule..."ooh look at that kid he looks like a fat slob"

There is always a deeper reason for everything...

Sorry for going off topic guys...but just felt the need to say that...I am very sensitive to other peoples' conditions..

As it HSC.....Sensitive Scorpios and all that...

Hot....what if you had a child that grew up to be overweight...would you call him lazy?

Carry on smoking guys....or eating...or whatever ye do