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Topic: Moral Dilemma
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Nihilive
Knowflake Posts: 115
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Registered: Feb 2006
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posted December 30, 2006 10:33 PM
 
Alright, maybe you guys can help me out with a moral dilemma I've been having. I have to work on New Year's Day at 8AM and this is my situation:Fianceé and I haven't had much time lately to spend together, and we had plans prior to me finding out I have to work on New Year's Day. These plans are very important to me to be able to keep, but here is my dilemma. I told my fianceé that I have to work on New Year's Day and initially she was upset because she thought that I had it off. Past all of that, after consoling her a bit I told her I could call it off so that I could spend the night with her (mind you, our plans are a state away, so there is a distance issue). She says, "Go ahead and work, but you better leave BEFORE midnight to go back so you don't get killed by a drunk." I could call of work the day of, but I have no excuse as to why and am not a fan of lying, but if it's for the greater good, why not? So my options are as follows; 1. Call off work ahead of time on New Year's Eve. Give them an excuse that a friend of mine has passed away and I need a day to get a lot of things in order. Or something similar to that. I really haven't a better excuse, but help me if you could. :-) 2. Call off the day of work, secretly (because the fianceé doesn't want me to do that because I am up for a promotion and she thinks it will adversely affect me) and tell them an excuse similar to option number 1. 3. Work that day, leave early prior to midnight, unfulfilled and somber. Disappointing scenario, ad naseum. 4. Work that day, but leave AFTER midnight and risk driving amongst the drunkards, which isn't what the fianceé wants either. Mind you, I don't drink, and if I do, which I will not be doing this night, I wouldn't drive. So alcohol in my system is not an issue. Help me! I am so torn. I am obligated to my fianceé and we've had a terrible year (probably the worst in our lives with all that has happened) and I want to make the right call for the new year. Thanks, A Very Torn Bull
P.S. Here are our charts for some more info if anyone wants to go there.
Mine:
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Astrological Data used for Short Report - Personal Portrait
for ME (male)
born on 6 May 1986 local time 5:37 am
in Farmington Hills, MI (US) U.T. 09:37
83w23, 42n28 sid. time 18:59:16Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Taurus 15°34'10 in house 1 direct
Moon Aries 17°43'33 in house 12 direct
Mercury Aries 27°58'49 in house 1 direct
Venus Gemini 11°40'41 in house 2 direct
Mars Capricorn 16°58'41 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Pisces 16°19'37 in house 12 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 7°57'28 in house 8 retrograde
Uranus Sagittarius 21°43'57 end of house 8 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 5°35'29 in house 9 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 5°41'44 in house 7 retrograde
True Node Taurus 0°00'32 in house 1 direct
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house. House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Aries 26°04'01
2nd House Gemini 0°05'47
3rd House Gemini 23°09'08
Imum Coeli Cancer 13°38'33
5th House Leo 6°25'38
6th House Virgo 7°48'57
Descendant Libra 26°04'01
8th House Sagittarius 0°05'47
9th House Sagittarius 23°09'08
Medium Coeli Capricorn 13°38'33
11th House Aquarius 6°25'38
12th House Pisces 7°48'57 Major aspects
Sun Trine Mars 1°25
Sun Sextile Jupiter 0°45
Moon Sextile Venus 6°03
Moon Square Mars 0°45
Moon Trine Uranus 4°00
Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 1°55
Venus Square Jupiter 4°39
Venus Opposition Saturn 3°43
Mars Sextile Jupiter 0°39
Jupiter Square Uranus 5°24
Uranus Trine Ascendant 4°20
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°06
Hers:
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Astrological Data used for Short Report - Personal Portrait
for HER (female)
born on 16 March 1986 local time 5:46 am
in Ann Arbor, MI (US) U.T. 10:46
83w45, 42n17 sid. time 16:45:55Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Pisces 25°33'15 in house 1 direct
Moon Gemini 1°10'31 in house 3 direct
Mercury Pisces 26°15'39 in house 1 retrograde
Venus Aries 9°04'54 in house 1 direct
Mars Sagittarius 23°54'15 in house 10 direct
Jupiter Pisces 5°39'12 in house 1 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 9°41'48 in house 9 stationary (R)
Uranus Sagittarius 22°19'10 in house 10 direct
Neptune Capricorn 5°40'27 in house 11 direct
Pluto Scorpio 7°00'18 in house 8 retrograde
True Node Taurus 0°24'22 in house 2 direct House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Aquarius 27°59'31
2nd House Aries 16°50'18
3rd House Taurus 19°31'35
Imum Coeli Gemini 12°55'00
5th House Cancer 3°26'50
6th House Cancer 25°53'26
Descendant Leo 27°59'31
8th House Libra 16°50'18
9th House Scorpio 19°31'35
Medium Coeli Sagittarius 12°55'00
11th House Capricorn 3°26'50
12th House Capricorn 25°53'26 Major aspects
Sun Sextile Moon 5°37
Sun Conjunction Mercury 0°42
Sun Square Mars 1°39
Sun Square Uranus 3°14
Moon Sextile Mercury 4°55
Moon Sextile Venus 7°54
Moon Square Jupiter 4°29
Moon Square Ascendant 3°11
Mercury Square Mars 2°21
Mercury Square Uranus 3°56
Venus Trine Saturn 0°37
Venus Square Neptune 3°24
Venus Quincunx Pluto 2°05
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1°35
Mars Sextile Ascendant 4°05
Jupiter Square Saturn 4°03
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 0°01
Jupiter Trine Pluto 1°21
Uranus Sextile Ascendant 5°40
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°20
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Azalaksh
Knowflake Posts: 6485
From: New Brighton, MN, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted December 30, 2006 10:42 PM
Nihilive ~No real suggestions astro or otherwise here, except for one: don't lie about "a friend dying" or something like that, unless you plan on responding to coworkers'/bosses' sympathies (maybe, if they believe you  ) and have to make up another story about the funeral..... Perhaps it's my wet-blanket, responsible Saturn conj Sun speaking, but if you made a commitment to work that day, it would be better not leave anyone who was depending on you in the lurch by calling in "sick". It's only one day. You and your lovely Piscean will have many more New Yearses to come..... IP: Logged |
Nihilive
Knowflake Posts: 115
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Registered: Feb 2006
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posted December 30, 2006 10:46 PM
Thanks for the advice. Keep it coming, I need as much as I can get.Thanks again, IP: Logged |
eatbooks
Knowflake Posts: 619
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Registered: Dec 2006
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posted December 30, 2006 10:46 PM
um YACK! my dad taught me never to lie about anyone dying to get out of any situation... bad karma, and the energy of lying about death is too big...------------------
your pain is my pain, is that love? IP: Logged |
Nihilive
Knowflake Posts: 115
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Registered: Feb 2006
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posted December 30, 2006 10:51 PM
As far as religious beliefs, I'm secular, but karma has always proved true in many instances for me. I was worried about the karmic repercussions as well, but not too gravely (no pun intended).IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
Knowflake Posts: 2560
From: Never Never Land
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted December 31, 2006 01:32 AM
I have to agree with all dont lie about friend dying, but i personally (maybe its my Gem sun) would make up a story about not feeling well or something and spend the day with your fiancee. IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
Moderator Posts: 3521
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted December 31, 2006 01:44 AM
I would tell them the truth. What can't wait? Tell them you made plans to meet your fiance, love, miles away and she is broken hearted. Tell them you value your job, but you value people you love more. Ask them if you can come in the afternoon and work late. Sheesh, this world has some serious issues. What are you, a brain surgeon or something? Tell them that if it means losing any future opportunities in their company, you will make the sacrifice and come in. Make them be the heavies. Make them tell you to screw off your girl because they are so important.
At least you might accomplish something for the good of all, and they might examine their priorities. You might be taking a tiny step toward this world becoming more love focused and less material and anal. Ok, well he asked my opinion....   IP: Logged |
lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 6062
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted December 31, 2006 04:19 AM
Hi, Nihilive - My advise to you...?
Meet your work obligations - Your source of livelihood is an important part of you and your fiance's future. Plus, you certainly don't want to send a signal that says "I fold under emotional pressure" or, "When you need someone who goes above & beyond the call of duty, look elsewhere". These are make-you-or-break-you opportunities in your carreer. Truly. ...And you can easily make it up to her next month, on Valentines Day. In fact, you should book it off this weekIP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted December 31, 2006 06:47 AM
I wouldnt lie especially about death....no wayWhen I used to cry off from my work I would then really get sick.....my karma for telling fibs Be honest, either go in or tell em you want the day off....if they say no.....just decide how important the job is!! IP: Logged |
sue g
Knowflake Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted December 31, 2006 01:10 PM
Having just read what Mystic said.....I would agree....but then again I would risk losing any job for love........love always comes first for me, before anything!! I used to have this "friend" (I will use that word loosely). My home was almost lost in a fire and I was very badly shaken up. I asked this friend if he would meet me, I needed someone outside the family to speak with. I was very on the edge. He told me he couldnt come over cos of work. We are no longer friends....havent seen him for almost two years and dont want to. He always took a lot from me, support, time etc and then when it came to the crunch, he let me down in favour of WORK!!! How dumb is that??!!  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 6062
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted December 31, 2006 10:35 PM
Hello, Sue m'darlin!
Well, maybe your friend had used the "friend in a crisis excuse already, so he couldn't play that card again. That's the thing with making up dramatic bold excuses to play hooky from work. What happens is, people begin to realize you have a seemingly very crisis-filled life, but you're probably just full of it -and you start to lose some of your credibility. Then, a real family crisis occurs, and you start to sound like the boy who played wolf. Yeah, that kind of thing may create bad karma. IP: Logged |
Nihilive
Knowflake Posts: 115
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Registered: Feb 2006
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posted January 01, 2007 01:31 AM
I went in to work and asked if there was anything they could do, but they couldn't, but now I am at home, SAFE, still with good karma intact. Yes, I have to work tomorrow, but at least I'm safe. Now, I'd like to think because I asked it off and they denied it and I still work it that I will retain, if not gain, credibility.Thanks guys. It was a nice night afterall. Made the best of it. IP: Logged |
lalalinda
Moderator Posts: 3291
From: nevada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted January 01, 2007 01:39 AM
well I'm proud of you
it always takes the bigger man,
to do the right thingRight On!! IP: Logged | |
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