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Topic: A&E's Intervention: Cristy
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lioneye68
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posted January 20, 2007 05:14 AM
 
I can't say I'm a huge fan of this show, but I did catch the episode aired last Sunday. It was about this crystal-meth addict/alcoholic named Cristy. Did anyone else see it? I have been disturbed about that girl since I saw this show. She seems to have killed her own soul. The way she was laughing at her family when they were telling what they feel they've lost...and said at one point "ohhhh this is sooo boring!"...She did not care one iota. I think her heart & soul are dead. This show really affected me. I find myself wondering about her at the most random times. I want to pray for her, but I feel like it would be a waste.
That show is brutal.
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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 20, 2007 06:12 AM
Honestly, that sickens me to read that you'd think praying for anyone would be a waste. Regardless to how you feel, who are you to judge who is and who isn't a "worthy cause" for your prayers and compassion? Are you that arrogant to think your compassion is too good for that girl? Sorry if that's harsh, but this is coming from someone who at 14 was treated like a "waste of effort" when I needed help getting off drugs. I will have been clean for 21 years this February - no thanks to all those who wanted to write me off as a lost cause. I saw part of that show, but I was in the middle of something else so I couldn't watch the whole thing. I tried to catch it when it replayed later in the evening but got distracted. She didn't seem spiritually dead to me - just very defensive and manipulative the way addicts can be. She's obviously extremely wounded and angry, particularly at her father. I've been thinking about her all week myself, but certainly not so cynically. There's is hope for her, even if you yourself cannot see it.
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lalalinda
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posted January 20, 2007 10:25 AM
I hear you lioneye
I can't watch those reality shows because they are so disturbing.
I do thank God that the Meth epidemic has not touched this family.
and hopefully Christy's family will rally around her and knock some sense in her.
(I know that seems mean but desperate times call for desperate measures)
Here's hoping your own beautiful daughter is safe and sound and that you'll never have to deal with those problems either.  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted January 20, 2007 11:58 AM
No fortunately, my bull-girl hasn't picked up any devastating habits (so far - knock wood - I realize it could happen to almost anyone)- But that Cristy, she didn't seem to be the least bit concerned about getting clean. She chose jail over re-hab. She seemed to have so much personality too. Even star quality maybe. Obviously, I have been keeping her in my thoughts, so that probably counts as a shout out to the ethers on her behalf. But she just seemed so far gone.
She's been using meth for 10 years now, since she was 14.IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 20, 2007 02:34 PM
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But that Cristy, she didn't seem to be the least bit concerned about getting clean. She chose jail over re-hab.
Of course, because getting clean is the least of an addict's concerns. In fact, most addicts don't want to get clean, they just want more of the drug. Her soul isn't "dead", just that her addiction has consumed her. It gets that way you know, where it becomes physical and psychological dependency on the drug. IP: Logged |
Natural111
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posted January 20, 2007 06:59 PM
GeminiNymph, I don't think Lioneye was being cynical. Or harsh. Just expressing what she felt. A sort of hoplessness for Cristy. Everyone process things differently. I think Lioneye's initial post was sort of leading, asking for alternative views so that she can be led into something she didn't see or can't fully understand.Me personally, I've worked with children who seemed they've lost their souls. I mean, wow, and these kids were extremely abused. I won't go into the heartbreaking details. Just believe, I have radical ideas on how to stop certain people from having children. So, though I didn't see Intervention, I can get an idea of the behavior. How one of these children would be all grown. So, Lioneye, unfortunately, there are more Cristy's out there than we can ever imagine. There is hope though. A) She may have to hit her bottom. B) We hope that she has a bottom because some people simply don't. They're so injured by life that they simply have to start over, creat a new beginning, while incorporating the old, gaining a new conscience. Discover something else to love about their situation, their environment and themselves other than the drug. And that's why a good psychologist can be a great healer. So, that's my take 
Hope that helps give you a little perspective, Lioneye. I know, the outward manifestions of an injured soul can be heartbreaking, and make one think, what will it take, and can it take ANYTHING.
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lioneye68
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posted January 20, 2007 06:59 PM
Yeah...I know that. The thing that was different about her, is her absolute lack of concern about how much pain she was causing her family. She literally laughed at them all when they were pouring out their hearts to her. Her poor mother was absolutely sobbing. It was truly heartbreaking. So, she finally did agree to go to 90 days of rehab, but only stayed for 3 days, then got kicked out for being too disruptive. So, her family called the authorities to pick her up on some warrents, and when the judge heard all the background, he gave her the choice of 90 days in jail or 18 months of rehab. She chose jail. The update at the end said she stayed clean for 6 weeks after she got out of jail, then jumped right back in to her old ways. Oh, and the pig sty she was living in ????!!! What the hell? I do hope she can pull herself out of that way of existance, though. I do hope to see a positive update on her. I don't know why her story has had such an impact on me. It's just so tragic, and she's so oblivious. Maybe she's done permanent damage to her brain? Drug addiction is such an awful thing. GN, good for you, for getting your life back on track. I don't imagine that was an easy thing to do, or an easy time to be you. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 20, 2007 07:41 PM
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The thing that was different about her, is her absolute lack of concern about how much pain she was causing her family
Again, nothing new. Just another psychological effect of being addicted to any hardcore drug. When you are addicted, you are not concerned about anything else (including the agony your family goes through) but your next fix. I know this does not happen with all addicts but like Natural111, I have an aunt who's worked with quite a few "Cristys" before at a group home she use to work at. And I've also had the pleasure of knowing someone like her before.
I agree that we should hope for a positive outcome to her situation. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted January 20, 2007 07:53 PM
Maybe the lack of concern is not that uncommon. I've just never seen someone make such a mockery of the intervention, and I've watched a few episodes of this show. The person is usually moved to tears by the realization of how much their hurting the people who care about them, and also the realization that they're in over their heads, and do need help. You never saw an ounce of that with Cristy. Of course, it didn't help that she was wasted when the intervention took place. http://www.aetv.com/intervention/int_episode_guide.jsp?episode=180902 This is a preview of that episode. Notice how "in control" she seems? She seems very Leo/Scorpio/Sagittarius to me....One thing is certain, she's a different case altogether, this one. IP: Logged |
hippichick
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Registered: Jan 2006
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posted January 20, 2007 10:35 PM
Hi guys!!I have been following this post, whilst at work and finaly have time to respond... I have multifasceted experience with drugs of ALL kinds, both personally and professionally (am a RN.) Yes, I too have trouble watching such programming as I absorbe all of the negative emotions that are broadcasted, and my gosh are the negative emotions ever broadcasted!!! (watched "Requiem for a Dream" the other day for the first time and it took me a day or two to re-center myself after it!!!) An individual on the type of drugs addressed has lost herself~~~She has be-come de-sensitized so to wonder why she does not do anything about it or feel remorse is beside the point and a wortheless query to wonder about. We are not talking about a "monkey" on the back, but a f&c*in GORRILLA!!!!!!!! Drugs these days have become so pure, so strong that the poor soul who partakes has little chance of re-maining intouch with reality as WE know it... I think we should as women and as fellow human be-ings pray for her and pray for ALL of those wounded souls, whilst re-membering this IS the path they have chosen as souls and it is their path to walk~~~ When (and if) they are ready, they will ask for help and ONLY when they are ready... Terri PS dulce  IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted January 20, 2007 11:17 PM
So, they very easily could die while their loved ones sit on their hands, doing nothing, meanwhile hearts breaking. That's a reality everyone has to live with. They have to acknowledge that they need help. That may or may not happen. Loved ones may just have to say goodbye now. That is extremely sad. Hey, if you love a drug abuser, you better say goodbye now, because you won't get the chance to do so when they're dead, which could be as soon as tomorrow.IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted January 21, 2007 12:43 AM
Thanks Hippi! And yes, those were the words I was looking for. "Numb" and "desensitized"......two effects of hardcore drugs. I also agree that the drugs are getting more and more purer these days. Unfortunately it is the purer ones out there that are usually the cheapest...and therefore easiest to get. IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted January 21, 2007 10:12 AM
LioneyeNo, I do not suppose "loved ones" HAVE to sit on their hands and do nothing, they could harrass, ***** , moan---to a BRICK WALL-and drive the addict away further into their drugged selves or onto the streets.... It is THEIR choice...as bad a choice as we see it to be....And not even Divinity itself could change their minds~~~until they are ready... And under the guise and influence of hard drugs, little chance they will be ready. It often takes nearly killing themselves, several times over and loosing EVERYTHING before a moment of clarity is provided by being free of the gorilla and perhaps they are then able to re-center for just a moment and make a decision to do something positive for themselves. If you have never used street drugs in any form or been close to anyone who does, you just can not imagine... We are not talking a rational human being here. And another thing, drug addicts are often VERY co-dependent and the people who are the closest to them are their co-dependents.... IP: Logged |
Natural111
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Registered: Sep 2006
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posted January 22, 2007 01:34 AM
Hippichick....Yep, you're right about the codependant thing, as well as everything else. Every drug addict I know (familial persons)are virtually being supported by those who "care" (in my case, family too). So much so that they prohibit them from hitting a bottom. It's very interesting. Because they never really get to discover if they REALLY want to be a REAL drug addict. Like, live the fruits of their decision, their actions. Really carry that "GORILLA" on their back. Because loved ones always provide the haven. Once my cousin was up in a drug rehab program near me, and all the women in the family were like, get him this or that. To wich 90 percent of the time I said, NO. Because I believe in tough love. Well, once they called me, my grandma, and his mother, and asked me to take him 5 dollars. And I was like, don't they pay him to move furniture and junk? They were like, yes. I was like, hey, I work for my 5 dollars too! And if they paid him to work, and he couldn't do what he needed to do to conserve money so, get this, he could GO TO A MOVIE, then tough luck. NO, I'm not taking that grown man, 5 dollars so he can go to a movie. I he were 9 I WOULD! And I didn't. My whole thing is, make a grown man see where he really landed himself, and now, where he really is, so he could at least have a shot at something about it. HIMSELF. Because in the end that's what makes a grown person a grown person, MAN or WOMAN. But of course he goes home. His mom takes care of him. That was like 8 years ago. He's still a drug addict. Crack. AND the family contributes to that immensely. So I agree, most of the time, the family just needs to stay out of it. AND go further than that, keep what I call the bar. Like, I love you BUT sweetie you can't come back into this house until you are clean and ready to be a contributing member to this society. PERIOD. And then when you get into this house, you have 8 hours a day to work, SOMEWHERE. And I year to get your own. Or at least be a student somewhere, in an accredited college. PERIOD. Virgo, I guess.  But you know what's funny, my cousin appreciated my stance. He said to me, "you got tough, Leika, huh?" And I said, YEP. LOL. It was crazy. If only his mom and my aunts, practiced it. My mom does! He's like, 45 or 46 now! And I still ain't got nothing but tough love for him. In our family, the woman FAR EXCEED the men. Because the men have been coddled by these older women in our family. My brother is the only successful one. He wasn't coddled. Geesh.
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