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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 04, 2007 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
I
I always thought that I knew
I’d always have the right to
Be living in the kingdom of the good and true
and so on
but now I think how I was wrong
And you were laughing along
And now I look a fool for thinking you were on, my side

Is it any wonder I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right

Sometimes
It’s hard to know where I stand
It’s hard to know where I am
Well maybe it’s a puzzle I don’t understand

But sometimes
I get the feeling that I’m
Stranded in the wrong time
Where love is just a lyric in a children rhyme

Is it any wonder that I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right
oh, these days
After all the misery you made
Is it any wonder that I feel afraid
Is it any wonder that I feel betrayed

Nothing left inside this old cathedral
Just the sad lonely spires
Adding you make it right

Oh, but you try
Is it any wonder I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right
oh, these days
After all the misery you made
Is it any wonder that I feel afraid
Is it any wonder that I feel betrayed

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 04, 2007 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
“Most people live in a very restricted circle of the potential of their being. They make use of a very small portion of their possible consciousness, and of their souls resources in general. Much like a man who, out of his whole bodily organism, should get into a habit of using and moving only his little finger.”

— William James

And I would say this is true of our connections with other people, and the people we allow ourselves to be open to. Aren't we all members of one body, one soul? So, to be open only to the people who are most similar, or geographically close, to ouselves, would be "to get into a habit of moving only [our] little finger", and to block out the influences which may be most needful for us, most capable of providing a wider perspective of our world, and our soul's potentials.


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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I
I always thought that I knew
I’d always have the right to
Be living in the kingdom of the good and true
and so on

but now I think how I was wrong
And you were laughing along
And now I look a fool for thinking you were on, my side

Is it any wonder I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right

Sometimes
It’s hard to know where I stand
It’s hard to know where I am
Well maybe it’s a puzzle I don’t understand

But sometimes
I get the feeling that I’m
Stranded in the wrong time
Where love is just a lyric in a children rhyme

Is it any wonder that I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right
oh, these days
After all the misery you made
Is it any wonder that I feel afraid
Is it any wonder that I feel betrayed

Nothing left inside this old cathedral
Just the sad lonely spires
Adding you make it right

Oh, but you try
Is it any wonder I’m tired
Is it any wonder that I feel uptight
Is it any wonder I don’t know what’s right
oh, these days
After all the misery you made
Is it any wonder that I feel afraid
Is it any wonder that I feel betrayed

*thought I'd see who wrote these

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"When we tap specific sephiroth, stimulating them into greater activity, the result is illumination. When we bridge them together for forced growth through pathworking, we institute the initiation process. We open ourselves to the Mysteries - Lesser, Greater and Supreme.
When we begin the process of forced initiation, we must use the illumination we receive from the levels of our consciousness to climb in the Tree of Life ever higher. Through applying our energy to our physical, emotional and mental essence, we are attempting to awaken a revelation of the higher spiritual and religious truths - of ourselves and the universe.
The mysteries and their lessons are enacted through the normal circumstances of our lives, not through some artficially contrived experience. Through the work with the Qabala we set energy in action so that it plays upon us through our physical lives and circumstances, and through the people and situations we meet daily. Again it is important to take time to evaluate, daily, weekly or on some regular basis, what has occurred in our lives. We must recognize that nothing is insignificant and that all circumstances have import. Everything gives clues as to the spiritual truths and mysteries we are involved in and have set in motion through our studies and through contact with the sephiroth of our essence. There is an underlying lesson in all these things.
The Lesser Mysteries are those of the bottom four sephiroth in the Tree of Life. They are for the unfoldment and development of the personality. They involve the search of and awakening to the need to have more than a physical existence. It is the looking-beyond of the seeker. The tests in these paths as they are awakened involve the development of good character, which forms the foundation for higher development. This involves learning to open the subconscious and it's levels.
Everything in the Lesser Mysteries involves other people and our relationships to them. Our greatest learning comes through the groups that we encounter, formally and otherwise. It involves maintainting a sound mind and body and controlling the instinct and passions, and the strengthening of the mind. All of this involves the lower fourth sephiroth - Hod, Netzach, Yesod and Malkuth - and their corresponding paths.
The Greater Mysteries involve the middle three sephiroth - Tiphareth, Geburah and Chesed. These involve the awakening and development of the individualtiy - our own uniquely creative energies that last for more than a single lifetime. These are the qualities that we strengthen and manifest more with each lifetime. Within these Myseterise is the leson of true faith, wihch opens the veils to true spiritual insight. the lessons change our focus from the outer world to the inner world. Here, the inner principles are focused and dedicated to higher service.
These Mysteries always involve probationary periods in which the individual's dedication to the higher is tested. It is here also that one meets what is referred to by many occultists as the 'inner plane adept', who guides the individual in greater teachings and in the development of dedication.

Dedication, however, does not imply neglect of the physical for the spiritual, because it is only by our work in the physical that we learn to apply our teachings. Dedication also involves recognizing the some very important duties in the physical will have precedence over the work in the Mysteries if htere is a conflict. It is the fulfillment of our obligations to ourselves and to others that demonstrates our dedication to the higher; and these obligations may actually be part of your probationary testing!
The individual must learn to act upon his/her own resources, without reliance upon others. The personality is dacrificed for the spiritual. This involves facing karma and duty in this lifetime, and learning to take responsibility for our thoughts, feelings and actions to more consciously work out the individual destiny. It is recognizing that one can be alone without being lonely, and that one has to deal with the concept from many levels as old conceptions are dissolved and stripped bare."

~a little more coming up

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
MysticMelody, Great Stuff!

what's it from?

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"The Supreme Mysteries are those that deal more specifically with teacing us that path of our true spiritual essence, its effects upon our physical life, and how the spiritual life and energy is structured. These involve the energies assiciated with Binah, Chokmah and Kether. All the Mysteries - Supreme, Greater or Lesser - are of equal importance. They simply serve different functions; they are different expressions of energy to help us in our growth.
The Supreme Mysteries many times involve great leaps of faith. It is here that we begin to understand how everything works together, and we begin to know how to set it all in motion for the benefit of all. We begin to recognize that there are universal rhythms, and we begin to align ourselves with them more fully.
We work on all of these levels simultaneously, and most of the time we are not even cognizant that the experiences within our physical life are reflecting teachings from some level within these Mysteries. When we work with the Qababla and pathworking we are attempting to become more cognizant of this process and to more conscously control and direct it. We set it in motion, accelerating our teaching and learning. because we are focused within the physical, it is absolutely necessary that we pay heed to our outer circumsantce in order to know what we have set in motion, and so that we can control them without being overcome by them."

*might as well set up construction cones around myself*
From one of my favorite books, received and conceived 15 years ago.

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Another dream that will never come true
Just to compliment your sorrow
Another life that I've taken from you
A gift to add on to your pain and suffering
Another truth you can never believe
Has crippled you completely
All the cries you're beginning to hear
Trapped in your mind, and the sound is deafening

Let me enlighten you
This is the way I pray

[Chorus:]
Living just isn't hard enough
Burn me alive, inside
Living my life's not hard enough
Take everything away

Another nightmare about to come true
Will manifest tomorrow
Another love that I've taken from you
Lost in time, on the edge of suffering
Another taste of the evil I breed
Will level you completely
Bring to life everything that you fear
Live in the dark, and the world is threatening

Let me enlighten you
This is the way i pray

[Chorus]

Return to me, return to me, return to me, turn to me, leave me no one
Turn to me, return to me, return to me, turn to me, cast aside
Return to me, return to me, return to me, turn to me, leave me no one
Turn to me, return to me, return to me, you've made me turn away

[Chorus Variant:]
Living just isn't hard enough
Burn me alive, inside
Living my life's not hard enough,
They take everything from you

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lotus, I will tell you sometime.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
the terms of the site
require that we post the copyright information..

please play fair, I'm sure lots would like to read it TOO!

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus, not everyone is ready for this particular book. I said I would tell you some time. Quit being a jerk.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not being a jerk...

I thirst for knowledge, along with the rest of the LOt...

glad to know, you are so above Us. ...

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, and I was going to give it to you without irresponsibly exposing anyone and everyone to things I did not type. Quit trying to FORCE me to do YOUR will when I am just doing what I feel is right. I have tried to be a friend to you BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I AM EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT ME TO BE. Does everyone in your life have to go through this Hell if they bother to acknowledge your existance? Stop trying to force your will on me oh spirit of light. Thanks again for the inspiration.
Next time I should just mail it to Steve.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
yes, cuz you breached the terms you agreed to when you became a member here

the fact that you call me a jerk, shows your level...

some are not ready for this book, it was you who was not ready!

for you do not practice it's teachings

vulgarity is all I see from you
negativity

knock it off!

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
You haven't got a clue. I said Quit BEING a jerk. I used to think that whatever you surfaced in me was a test of patience and understanding, as I see most evil, but I've also learned that it isn't right to constantly dissipate my energies on beings like yourself.
Good luck with life and the people in it on your own terms. Goodbye Lotus

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
it is you who did wrong in the first place,
if you want to turn it around to make yourSelf feel better...

As You Wish!

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MysticMelody
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posted February 04, 2007 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I just re-read this and I think I see what the problem is... The "Disturbed" song is not for you, first of all, I am talking to Steve about thoughts, issues, men, memories, views.
Second, I was trying to say that I felt YOU WERE ready for it, so I WOULD TELL YOU sometime (when no one was paying attention to us or in private), because I assumed you would remember, but I wouldn't have to expose young people who might not be ready for it to it... in an irresponsible way. I was NOT saying that YOU were not ready for it.

You read too cryptically into my words! You really get me upset. It is draining to have to figure out what you may have taken the wrong way all of the time. Have a little trust. I have honestly tried to be your friend.
Sheesh, I thought you were going nuts and trying to attack me for sheer fun and controversy. Surely if you understand what I just typed ^above^ then you have also learned that it is not to be revealed indiscriminately. That is all I was trying to say and it surprised the heck out me when you were fighting me on it and got me very upset.
Ok, I hope this clears things up and if you would give me some trust in the future, we can get past this.

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
by posting someone's work and agreeing to the term of this site, you must provide it's information...

it is not up to you to decide who is ready or not, for if they are not ready, they simply will not understand it!

so, I still don't understand you?

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lotusheartone
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posted February 04, 2007 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
MysticMelody, I just want you to know, I am not trying to be a jerk, which is the same thing as a jerk, hehe

I am simply trying to make you SEE...and I am mis-understood, my intentions are of LOve and Light for ALL, no One is excluded. ...
this is what happened, how the mysteries were kept from the general population, this is a thorn in my side,
for we are all God's children
all entitled to information
all bestowed with the same divine gifts

we all hold the keys
and it's time to unlock
and reveal The Truth

Big Hug of LOve to YOU... .

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posted February 04, 2007 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
No, you don't. Nevermind.

At least I tried!

"Unless an individual is well-grounded and has a well-founded base of experience in the spiritual sciences to fall back upon, there can be disruptions and abuses of the energies." ~ my aunt Rita's letter, darn woman never uses APA format

If you can't respect my reasons, then disrespect them, but that will not make me do what I feel is wrong.
A copyright is to prevent people from claiming your work as their own and distributing it for profit. I will tell my friends the author of the above quotes and they will probably run right out and support him. I doubt he would be against a commercial. If Randall chooses to ask me to remove my quotes, I will, and next time instead of following the energy that moved me to post the above, I will continue to search for the quote I was originally planning on posting.
Oh, wait a minute.
No, I won't.


You and I don't seem to get along. How about you take the seeds of truth you see in my posts and disregard what you feel is chaff. I'll do the same for you and we won't need to continue this sort of low energy exchange.

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posted February 04, 2007 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
just so you know, I work continiously from LOve and Light, it is the source of all my energy, it is all I send forth, out into the World...

you still think, you can decide, who is ready or not?

How dare you?


hehe, maybe someone knows what is it, and will tell Us, and God can decide!

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posted February 06, 2007 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Accept Yourself by The Smiths

Every day you must say
So, how do I feel about my life ?
Anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
When will you accept yourself ?
I am sick and I am dull
And I am plain
How dearly I'd love to get carried away
Oh, but dreams have a knack of just not coming true
And time is against me now...oh
Oh, who and what to blame ?
Oh, anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
When will you accept yourself, for heaven's sake ?
Anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
Every day you must say
Oh, how do I feel about the past ?
Others conquered love - but I ran
I sat in my room and I drew up a plan
Oh, but plans can fall through (as so often they do)
And time is against me now...

And there's no-one left to blame
Oh, tell me when will you ...
When will you accept your life ?
(The one that you hate)
For anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
Every day you must say
Oh, how do I feel about my shoes ?
They make me awkward and plain
How dearly I would love to kick with the fray ...
But I once had a dream (and it never came true)
And time is against me now...
Time is against me now...
And there's no one but yourself to blame
Oh, anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
Anything is hard to find; for heaven's sake !
Anything is hard to find
When you will not open your eyes
When will you accept yourself ?
When ?
When ?
When ?
When ?

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posted February 06, 2007 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
"The instant you believe yourself pure
you become impure." - Karl Jaspers

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posted February 08, 2007 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message

WE wear the mask that grins and lies,
It hides our cheeks and shades our eyes,—
This debt we pay to human guile;
With torn and bleeding hearts we smile,
And mouth with myriad subtleties.

Why should the world be over-wise,
In counting all our tears and sighs?
Nay, let them only see us, while
We wear the mask.

We smile, but, O great Christ, our cries
To thee from tortured souls arise.
We sing, but oh the clay is vile
Beneath our feet, and long the mile;
But let the world dream otherwise,
We wear the mask!


Paul Laurence Dunbar (1872-1906)

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posted February 08, 2007 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
It is a beauteous evening, calm and free,
the holy time is quiet as a Nun
Breathless with adoration; the broad sun
Is sinking down in its tranquility;
The gentleness of heaven broods o'er the Sea;
Listen! the mighty Being is awake,
And doth with his eternal motion make
A sound like thunder--everlastingly.
Dear Child! dear Girl! that wakest with me here,
If thou appear untouched by solemn thought,
Thy nature is not therefore less divine;
Thou liest in Abraham's bosom all the year,
And worship'st at the Temple's inner shrine,
God being with thee when we know it not.


-Wordsworth

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posted February 15, 2007 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
“Whatever course you decide upon, there is always someone to tell you that you are wrong. There are always difficulties arising which tempt you to believe that your critics are right. To map out a course of action and follow it to an end requires courage.”

~ Ralph Waldo Emerson


YOU HAVE TO BE READY FOR RIDICULE


Leonardo packing up the Mona Lisa in 1516
to live near the King of France

You have to be ready for ridicule

The plane plops on the beach in 1903 after just a minute

You have to be ready for ridicule

You silkscreen Marilyn Monroe all in gold in the fall of '62

You have to be ready for ridicule

You get an idea that the continents are all adrift
on thick plates of the earth

You have to be ready for ridicule

You saw a saucer on the high sands of time

You have to be ready for ridicule

You don't think a mall should be built on a meadow

You have to be ready for ridicule

You'd like a nation wide, affordable non-profit health care system

You have to be ready for ridicule

— Ed Sanders

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