posted March 02, 2007 04:54 PM         

I don't get this sentence. so you don't like most of the music mentioned in here? I don't get the wording...especially the bold

GN

bands, no... PEOPLE, have always been exploited. Things will always be about image to some. Even in the late 80s, indie was image to some. It may be harder to find a legit indie band these days, I agree but rock is not dead and neither is indie. There are still many DIY bands, aka lo-fi as I mentioned.

Mainstream was never 100% bad IMO (though maybe 98%). For example, I have no problem with Built to spill moving to a major label. who cares if they lose the indie label, their first cd on a major label, perfect from now on was amazing. and, even on a major label, you can still be adventurous and have that indie spirit even without the label, like Perfect. In the end, it is the spirit, doing something new. Indie, like anything else, does not stand still, it evolves. we can never be stuck in the late 80s/early 90s indie days, that would be boring. Indie will evolve to the point where it will withstand a larger barrage from the major labels, it will be more about spirit and adventurous music.

My point is, major labels won't kill the SPIRIT of indie. though it will make it into an image thing a lot more too, a shallow thing much more I agree. It is up for the listener to discern who they want to listen to. Indie is subjective too, as many have proven here. But I go for the feeling, the adventure in the songs, doing something new. Like prog rock of the early 70s. Built to spill maintained the indie FEEL and SPIRIT minus the label, on perfect from now on. Thats what I call indie.

VTT

glad to turn you on to music. Suggest away yourself, I would love to find new bands. Again, I enjoy the vibes from bands like Aloha or umphreys mcgee. so are you a taurus sun and virgo moon/asc?? My gf is taurus sun and virgo moon, if that is the case. she is such a perfectionist but I love her for it.

posted March 03, 2007 05:01 AM         

not indie (post rock), but Yndi Halda is amazing. Beautiful music. Just look at two of their titles:

posted March 03, 2007 12:01 PM         

Also, check out Denali's "The Instinct" if their self-titled album didn't rock enough for you. I find many of the tracks on The Instinct to be a bit harder rocking. I just love Maura Davis's voice- edgy tone, great vibrato, and with occasional, rather orgasmic, squeals.

posted March 04, 2007 05:37 PM         

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posted March 04, 2007 06:33 PM         

but "indie" is an image.

When I hear "indie", what i see in my head is a montage of all the guys with their precious sloppy shagged haircuts and black horn rim glasses, carrying identical messenger bags with their laptops maxed out with gigs of obscure music no one but the other guys carrying messenger bags have ever heard of.

They sit in coffee shops all day long, sucking up free WiFi dressed in thrift shop chic that really isn't thrift shop, all stripey shirts and cargos in save the earth tones....and look down at anyone who isn't "indie" enough for them.

The image has been exploited. its all over the place, and the word 'indie' has replaced grunge, New Wave, goth, metal, house, whatever- insert your genre here.

This is not a personal attack on anyone, for music preference is so individualized.

posted March 04, 2007 10:51 PM         

I will make sure to avoid posting here-

obviously I am not indie enough.

posted March 05, 2007 12:09 AM         

I was being kind, sorry the internet is not good for expressions/emotions, ect. Don't read into what I said to much. I can't stand indie twits myself. In no way was I being holier than thou.

All I wanted to say was, it seemed like you were talking in a way that no one else had mentioned that. But we (a lot of us at least) realize that. I said it was a good point too. for sure. but already made.

posted March 06, 2007 10:42 AM         

I loathe them. Always have.

Honestly,