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Topic: Sue G, Jackal
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eatbooks
Knowflake Posts: 619
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Registered: Dec 2006
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posted March 04, 2007 12:49 AM
 
starting this thread is pretty vicious.IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 12:51 AM
so, once again it's okay on the other thread to bash me, which I left days ago, while you
all continued to bash meyes, so I opened a thread and it is the Truth. ...
wether you like it, or not... . IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
Knowflake Posts: 2560
From: Never Never Land
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted March 04, 2007 12:53 AM
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Lotus, please leave lindaland, you are not welcome here, anymore. The collective conscious is speaking, listen.
That is an unfair statement. Lotus is welcome here as is everyone else. Lotus helps a few people, myself and a close friend both have been helped by her. I just have no idea why she is fighting with Sue as both women are amazing. quote:
No, it is because nobody can stand you, and they realize you're not worth their time because you're a waste.
WTH!!! THats so insidious!! You know what you're not helping either. I disagree with all those things Lotus said to Sue but certainly you have no right to say that NOBODY can stand her and she's a waste...No one is a waste... IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:10 AM
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Lotus is welcome here as is everyone else.
I think it states pretty clearly on the rules page that personal attacks and harassment are not welcome. Maybe you don't know, since you only joined in October, but Lotus has been carrying these activities on for more than a year, now. Starting a thread specifically to attack and harass others is an offense worthy of banning (at least if I understand the rules correctly.) Thus, she is making herself unwelcome. IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:13 AM
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so, once again it's okay on the other thread to bash me, which I left days ago, while you
all continued to bash me
I can't believe you have the gall to say this in a thread entitled "Sue G, Jackal." How anyone could defend this behavior is utterly incomprehensible to me. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 01:15 AM
if you didn't see what happened, I am sorry you are so ignorant to the plain and simple truth.IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
Knowflake Posts: 2560
From: Never Never Land
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted March 04, 2007 01:18 AM
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I think it states pretty clearly on the rules page that personal attacks and harassment are not welcome.
Not disagreeing. It is VERY uncalled for what she said. VERY but a personal attack against her isnt the best way to prove to her she is wrong. I know best defense is offence and all but I disagree with the generalized statements that were made. Yes i joined in October and yes i am unfamiliar with certain things Lotus has done but that doesn't mean that my opinion does not count. I just got mad when it was said that the COLLECTIVE wants her out. Am i not part of that collective? I certainly dont hate her. IP: Logged |
Mirandee
Knowflake Posts: 4812
From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:20 AM
No, Johnny, SueG and I are not great friends but that has nothing to do with this. Please don't try, just because you are a close friend of SueG's to insinuate that is why I am here. Okay? That would be you stating you know my motives and intentions and that is what you guys accused Lotus of doing to SueG. My motives and intentions here, AS ALWAYS, are precisely what I state them to be. You guys are doing the same thing to Lotus that you accuse her of doing to SueG. Does that somehow make it right? You said that Lotus was judging SueG on this thread and on the tarot thread. Is that not what you all are doing to Lotus here? It is apparent to me that in some way SueG was trusted by Lotus and she feels hurt and betrayed by something that happened. I do not know what but that was apparent to me from what Lotus said on the tarot thread. That thread was closed at SueG's request by sesame. Why then has he not closed this thread and the other thread where Lotus is being talked about at Lotus' request? Why is he allowing this attack on Lotus to continue on while much less was said to SueG by Lotus? Are the rules only meted out at the request of cronies of the moderators? Is that the system here? If so aren't the moderators and the webmaster at LL practicing their own brand of victimization of all the other members at LL by not applying the rules to everyone? Kinds of makes the rest of us open game doesn't it? Lotus and I have also had our differences and altercations in the past, Johnny. Still I do not think that she or SueG or anyone else deserves to be treated this way. BUD, I agree with what you said here regarding Lotus.  This just all needs to be stopped and this thread closed as Lotus asked sesame to do. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75
Knowflake Posts: 2171
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Registered: Apr 2006
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posted March 04, 2007 01:21 AM
Oh my... things are out of control here. I am with BUD... Lotus has helped me immensely recently, and I love her for it. Sue G has also helped me immensely, and I love her for it too. It pains me to see this happening, the fighting between two women who BOTH have the ability to share so much love. It makes me sad to see all this arguing and anger. I don't know how it all started, but it needs to stop - now.I am sending love and healing as best I can to all people involved in this! IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 01:21 AM
Thanks for your logic and common sense
BUD  rose, hehesee, there is a big picture, and well
I ignored all the bashing for days
and then I said,
enough is enough I have not said one lie, I have spoken truth
so, those who have no idea what is happening..
well, come on, stay out of it the missing members speak
I speak for them. ... with GOD... . IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 04, 2007 01:24 AM
Moderators can only close threads in their own forum.
Sesame used his judgement in that case, and rightly so.
This is not Aselzion, mine or Sesame's forum, therefore we do not moderate it and have no mod capabilities here.Just to clarify. Good night all. IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:25 AM
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but a personal attack against her isnt the best way to prove to her she is wrong.
Agreed. It's not about taking an offensive stance, I think - when someone makes a personal attack against Lotus, I think it's generally more a matter of frustration. quote:
Yes i joined in October and yes i am unfamiliar with certain things Lotus has done but that doesn't mean that my opinion does not count.
Not saying it doesn't; just saying that most of these issues are long-standing and go back quite a ways. If you don't know the history, it's not as easy to see where some of this is coming from. quote:
I just got mad when it was said that the COLLECTIVE wants her out. Am i not part of that collective?
Well, obviously the collective doesn't mean every single person to ever post here. I think most people who have had to deal with Lotus' sh*t for the past 18 months are getting pretty sick of it, though. Some great people don't post here anymore, largely because of her. quote:
I certainly dont hate her.
I don't either, but I'm tired of her harassment. Trying to force Sue to leave by relentlessly attacking her is disgusting. There are things I like about Lotus, but this is inexcusable. Especially when it never seems to stop. IP: Logged |
Mirandee
Knowflake Posts: 4812
From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:27 AM
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I think it states pretty clearly on the rules page that personal attacks and harassment are not welcome. Maybe you don't know, since you only joined in October, but Lotus has been carrying these activities on for more than a year, now.
Aren't what you people doing here and on the SueG thread personal attacks on Lotus? IP: Logged |
starr33
Moderator Posts: 474
From: My Mother
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted March 04, 2007 01:27 AM
I can't believe how far this has gone. Can't you two solve this on your own time wihtout dragging everyone else in this? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 01:28 AM
Johnny, if you would have read everything..
you would realize you are makeing a butt of
yourself...everything you've said,
you have twisted from what
was actually said, so, my conclusion
is, you're clueless...
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 01:30 AM
Mirandee,
they are blind as batsasleep in the witch's poppy field...
dreaming about Sue's favorite subject... CANCEL IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:38 AM
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No, Johnny, SueG and I are not great friends but that has nothing to do with this. Please don't try, just because you are a close friend of SueG's to insinuate that is why I am here. Okay?
I hoped you wouldn't take it like that. I'm not trying to insinuate anything like that. quote:
You guys are doing the same thing to Lotus that you accuse her of doing to SueG.
No one is following Lotus around to every thread she makes and harassing her. This thread was created to attack Sue, and this is where Lotus is hearing the consequences of that. Unfair? I don't think so. quote:
Why then has he not closed this thread and the other thread where Lotus is being talked about at Lotus' request?
LibraSparkle is the moderator for this forum. She isn't around. I wonder why she left? Well, not really; I have strong suspicions. And Lotus came into the other thread and attacked Sue, too. You know this, right? If this thread is closed, it is doubtful that anything productive will result. Lotus will go on harassing other members, just like she has done in the past and clearly stated several times here that she will continue to do.
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Mirandee
Knowflake Posts: 4812
From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:42 AM
starr33, Very good point. Everyone should just back off and let Lotus and SueG work this out. Apparently SueG does not feel the need to be here defending herself on this thread. So why is it everyone else's battle when she doesn't seem to feel the need to defend herself? IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:47 AM
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Everyone should just back off and let Lotus and SueG work this out. Apparently SueG does not feel the need to be here defending herself on this thread.So why is it everyone else's battle when she doesn't seem to feel the need to defend herself?
Ok, I'm officially questioning your motives for being here, now. You know perfectly well, this isn't just about Sue G. Yet you continue to validate Lotus' delusions, and make snide comments about Sue to boot. I'm thinking this argument is a waste of time if you have your own agenda. Sorry, I'd have liked to respect your motives here, but it looks like I can't very well do that.
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 01:49 AM
Johnny, sorry, but are you stupid? CANCELthis is between sue and i only.... get it! IP: Logged |
Mirandee
Knowflake Posts: 4812
From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:57 AM
I'm happy that you did not mean it that way, Johnny but it did come off that way or else why even bring it up that SueG and I don't particularly like each other? Exactly why did you bring it up then? I am curious. Well, frankly, the way I saw it is that if SueG asked for the tarot thread to be closed because she felt that she was being victimized on that thread then why was she carrying it on with her friends talking about Lotus on other threads? If you ask for a thread to be closed and then talk about the other person on other threads it does not seem like you really want it dropped. So why ask for the thread to be close in the first place? Yes, Lotus came on that thread and attacked Sue there. But what did you all expect her to do when you were all sitting there talking about her where she could read it? Wouldn't that tick you off a bit if it were you? IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 01:59 AM
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this is between sue and i only....
No, not if you make a thread about it in FFA. Send her an e-mail if you have a problem with her - don't post it on a public Internet board. Remember this? quote:
You obviously don't know the Truth about Sue...
but many, many, many do...all those that have been fooled. ...I won't let her fool anyOne Else
As soon as you try to make a public issue of your problem with Sue, it ceases to be soley between the two of you. Seems like common sense to me. But that's not really your forte, is it? And that's not even to mention all the other members here you've harassed. Sorry, ain't flying anymore. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 04, 2007 02:01 AM
 Ggod Night! IP: Logged |
Mirandee
Knowflake Posts: 4812
From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 02:06 AM
I knew you were insinuating that in the first place, Johnny and you are way out of line on those comments. I was just stating the obvious. SueG is not here so this does not seem to mean as much to her as it does all of you is what I was saying. You don't see me going around to SueG's threads harrassing her or bothering her at all do you? So to imply that there any kind of ulterior motive on my part here other than to just stop the attacks on Lotus that seem very harsh to me. It's the issue I am addressing here. Not the people. What is this about if not SueG then Johnny? None of you called for Lotus to be banned before this. IP: Logged |
Johnny
Knowflake Posts: 2056
From: Colorado, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 04, 2007 02:08 AM
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I'm happy that you did not mean it that way, Johnny but it did come off that way or else why even bring it up that SueG and I don't particularly like each other?
I'm not sure what kind of explanation you're looking for. The subject was Sue; I thought I could add context to the discussion in this way, I suppose. Where Sue is involved, you often make your distaste for her evident in your words. They often carry hidden barbs of meaning - subtle, but clear. I can see why it appeared to you that my words were likewise barbed, but they were not. However, you continually attack Sue with your words in this thread, while at the same time defending Lotus, who likewise attacks Sue. I wasn't questioning your motives when you first posted, but, the more jabs at Sue I see, the more I do. quote:
If you ask for a thread to be closed and then talk about the other person on other threads it does not seem like you really want it dropped. So why ask for the thread to be close in the first place?
I can't really comment on Sue's thoughts, as I'm not her. But why do you focus on Sue's actions to the exclusion of everyone else? quote:
Yes, Lotus came on that thread and attacked Sue there. But what did you all expect her to do when you were all sitting there talking about her where she could read it? Wouldn't that tick you off a bit if it were you?
Lotus comes into every thread and attacks Sue, with obvious intentions - that is the point. Should no one ever discuss this? Should we just let it go on? You are the one being unfair, I think. IP: Logged |
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