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Topic: Has Anyone Used The "SECRET"?
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sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 978 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 05, 2007 12:37 PM
Has anyone out there applied the secret to their lives and found that it worked for them? Just curious...... IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 913 From: Durham, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 05, 2007 04:02 PM
Yes. I've been using it since before I came across that video last month, and it is very effective. It is amazing in retrospect, to look back and realize that the very things I had visualized in my life are manifesting / have manifested already! It can take some time though, to align yourself with what you visualize in your life, and self-doubt can delay the process.Sunshine IP: Logged |
MysticMelody Moderator Posts: 3521 From: Registered: Dec 2005
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posted March 05, 2007 08:43 PM
It works for me when I bother to follow it. "There are some things you don't have to know how it works – only that it works. While some people are studying the roots, others are picking the fruit. It just depends on which end of this you want to get in on." -- Jim Rohn
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Johnny Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 05, 2007 09:23 PM
Yep.IP: Logged |
Philbird Knowflake Posts: 3396 From: Here, there and everywhere. Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 05, 2007 10:48 PM
Oh Yeah!!! It's soo cool when you have done it consciously for a year and then look back at all the events that led to where you are today. I am really happy about my aproach to life these days!
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lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 05, 2007 10:56 PM
this is what I think... and I have never read it, or seen it on Opera*edit,I'm laughing so hard..I mean Oprah* or the net...you have to go within..Mind to OverSoul = GOD and this connection, allows you to know thySelf and SEE, past present and future... now if we only image good things, then we are not facing karma..and this is a must... or you can forgive, and come full-serpent circle...ending the cycle of karma... we have a purpose..we need to master OurSelves..to pray and image for the Good of ALL... not only of OneSelf... The big picture we are all equal, we are all one... LOve LOve LOve IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 978 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 06, 2007 12:56 AM
Can any of you guys tell specifically what you attribute to the success of what you are doing and what is the sort of things that you have manifested?IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 3944 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 06, 2007 01:33 AM
NO, but I have used Secret, and lemme tell ya, they say its made for a woman bt strong enough for a man. But the general public SEEMED to disagree with THAT claim STANK you very much!IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 978 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 06, 2007 09:17 AM
Blue Roamer- You are a hoot my friend! IP: Logged |
Philbird Knowflake Posts: 3396 From: Here, there and everywhere. Registered: Jun 2004
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posted March 06, 2007 10:36 AM
Well, I don't know how old/young you are but if you sit down and really reflect on YOUR life, I bet you will find many things you have attracted that led you here today. What made you look for a spiritual website called L.L.? Start from today and work your way backwards, thinking of all the things you think are connected to how you became the person you are today. You have already been using the law of attraction even if you didn't know it. Now you can use it consciously!IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 978 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 06, 2007 11:07 AM
philbird-what an enlightening way of looking at it. I am just having problems reprogramming my thinking. any useful tips out there? IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 06, 2007 12:18 PM
please be careful about manifesting material things... for God and our Soul is not of that Stuff...just our physical body (shell) is... and anything you manifest, by the way, only masters can manifest, for they are initiated for the Good of ALL, and all must be manifested with the condsideration to ALL, for we are all connected ... the Secret, is false in my eyes... the Big Picture is missing and it seems only Self, is concerned with what they want.... LOve LOve LOve *Edit, to add, I am not a master yet..I cannot ordain and command and manifest yet, for it is a grave resposiblity. ... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 06, 2007 02:07 PM
P.S. but, I am really close to mastering mySelf, and that is why, Evil, is trying to kick my butt, Well, I get knocked down, but I always get back up... up up and away in my beautiful my beautiful balloon. ... IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 06, 2007 02:35 PM
In case any of you didn't know...I am a human being with feelings! IP: Logged |
Johnny Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 06, 2007 11:22 PM
Linda's advice about the dangers of false prophets is valid here as anywhere. Have to exercise one's BS detector when culling through advice on spiritual matters.From my own personal experience, the 'Secret' (though it's not really much of a secret) is a real phenomenon. Contrary to what others might say, I don't think it's focused on the self, or at least not in the sense that the self is viewed as separate from the rest of the Universe (which is a delusion, I think). Philbird's advice is right on, imo. It's working for you whether you know it or not; the 'secret' is to bring it to conscious attention. Just my $.02. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 06, 2007 11:44 PM
go within, only you can figure out what is true. ...it's up to you, no one else.... IP: Logged |
Everlong Knowflake Posts: 931 From: Southeast Florida Registered: Nov 2003
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posted March 07, 2007 12:09 AM
The Secret makes me want to vomit. I work at a book store, and it depresses me how many people come in to purchase it. This article sums up my feelings exactly: http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/03/05/the_secret/index.html Oprah's ugly secret By continuing to hawk "The Secret," a mishmash of offensive self-help cliches, Oprah Winfrey is squandering her goodwill and influence, and preaching to the world that mammon is queen. By Peter Birkenhead March 5, 2007 | Steve Martin used to do a routine that went like this: "You too can be a millionaire! It's easy: First, get a million dollars. Now..." If you put that routine between hard covers, you'd have "The Secret," the self-help manifesto and bottle of minty-fresh snake oil currently topping the bestseller lists. "The Secret" espouses a "philosophy" patched together by an Australian talk-show producer named Rhonda Byrne. Though "The Secret" unabashedly appropriates and mishmashes familiar self-help clichés, it was still the subject of two recent episodes of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" featuring a dream team of self-help gurus, all of whom contributed to the project. The main idea of "The Secret" is that people need only visualize what they want in order to get it -- and the book certainly has created instant wealth, at least for Rhonda Byrne and her partners-in-con. And the marketing idea behind it -- the enlisting of that dream team, in what is essentially a massive, cross-promotional pyramid scheme -- is brilliant. But what really makes "The Secret" more than a variation on an old theme is the involvement of Oprah Winfrey, who lends the whole enterprise more prestige, and, because of that prestige, more venality, than any previous self-help scam. Oprah hasn't just endorsed "The Secret"; she's championed it, put herself at the apex of its pyramid, and helped create a symbiotic economy of New Age quacks that almost puts OPEC to shame. Why "venality"? Because, with survivors of Auschwitz still alive, Oprah writes this about "The Secret" on her Web site, "the energy you put into the world -- both good and bad -- is exactly what comes back to you. This means you create the circumstances of your life with the choices you make every day." "Venality," because Oprah, in the age of AIDS, is advertising a book that says, "You cannot 'catch' anything unless you think you can, and thinking you can is inviting it to you with your thought." "Venality," because Oprah, from a studio within walking distance of Chicago's notorious Cabrini Green Projects, pitches a book that says, "The only reason any person does not have enough money is because they are blocking money from coming to them with their thoughts." Worse than "The Secret's" blame-the-victim idiocy is its baldfaced ************ . The titular "secret" of the book is something the authors call the Law of Attraction. They maintain that the universe is governed by the principle that "like attracts like" and that our thoughts are like magnets: Positive thoughts attract positive events and negative thoughts attract negative events. Of course, magnets do exactly the opposite -- positively charged magnets attract negatively charged particles -- and the rest of "The Secret" has a similar relationship to the truth. Here it is on biblical history: "Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, and Jesus were not only prosperity teachers, but also millionaires themselves, with more affluent lifestyles than many present-day millionaires could conceive of." And worse than the idiocy and the ************ is its anti-intellectualism, because that's at the root of the other two. Here's "The Secret" on reading and, um, electricity: "When I discovered 'The Secret' I made a decision that I would not watch the news or read newspapers anymore, because it did not make me feel good," and, "How does it work? Nobody knows. Just like nobody knows how electricity works. I don't, do you?" And worst of all is the craven consumerist worldview at the heart of "The Secret," because it's why the book exists: "[The Secret] is like having the Universe as your catalogue. You flip through it and say, 'I'd like to have this experience and I'd like to have that product and I'd like to have a person like that.' It is you placing your order with the Universe. It's really that easy." That's from Dr. Joe Vitale, former Amway executive and contributor to "The Secret," on Oprah.com. Oprah Winfrey is one of the richest women in the world, and one of the most influential. Her imprimatur has helped the authors of "The Secret" sell 2 million books (and 1 million DVDs), putting it ahead of the new Harry Potter book on the Amazon bestseller list. In the time Oprah spent advertising the lies in "The Secret," she could have been exposing them to an audience that otherwise might have believed them. So why didn't she? If James Frey deserved to be raked over the coals for lying about how drunk he was, doesn't Oprah deserve some scrutiny for pitching the meretricious nonsense in "The Secret"? Oprah has a reputation for doing good -- she probably has more perceived moral authority than anyone in this country -- and she has done a lot of good. But in light of her zealous support of a book that says, in this time of entrenched, systemic, institutionalized poverty, this time of no-bid contracts for war profiteers and heckuva-job governance, that "you can have, be, or do anything," isn't it reasonable to ask about why she does what she does, and the way she does it? Oprah recently opened, with much fanfare, the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy in South Africa, and as I watched the network news stories about it, I couldn't get "The Secret" out of my mind. I kept wondering what would happen if professor Sam Mhlongo, South Africa's chief family practitioner who famously said that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, read about Oprah's connection to "The Secret" and found support there for his claim. I wondered if the students of the academy would read "The Secret" and start to believe that their parents deserved to be poor, or that the people of Darfur summoned the Janjaweed with "bad thoughts." Will the heavier girls be told, as readers of "The Secret" are, that food doesn't cause weight gain -- thinking about weight gain does? Will they be told to not even look at fat people, as "The Secret" advises? Oprah is already promoting these ideas to her television audience. Why wouldn't she espouse them to her students? In many ways the Leadership Academy is a wonderful project, a school that will provide impoverished girls an education they otherwise might not have gotten. But it also seems to be the product, unavoidably, of the faux-spiritual, anti-intellectual, hyper-materialistic worldview expressed in "The Secret," the book that the school's founder has called "life changing." There's more to the article, you can read the rest at that link. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 07, 2007 12:12 AM
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Johnny Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 07, 2007 12:39 AM
quote: The main idea of "The Secret" is that people need only visualize what they want in order to get it
Isn't that something of a misinterpretation, though? Note that I've never read the official book, and I've only seen the opening couple of minutes from the movie, but, from my research on this concept, it's less about just 'visualizing' what you want and more about doing away with destructive thought patterns and replacing them with more helpful ones. Linda quotes this at the end of Gooberz: "...for whatsoever things ye should desire, pray as if ye had already received these and ye shall surely have them..." Likewise, Annalee Skarin wrote a good deal about the most basic principle in the Universe being that "everything produces after it's own kind." I think the author of that article is building something of a strawman with all the baloney about holocaust survivors and AIDS victims. He's missing the point, imo. Regardless, I've had success by taking this "like attracts like" philosopy into consideration. All the skeptical bloggers in the world mean little. But I don't like Oprah, either. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 07, 2007 12:42 AM
What Linda meant is.. and Jesus...is pray as if you have already received,like, thank you God, for keeping my family safe... you SEE. ... IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 978 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted March 07, 2007 12:46 AM
Ok, if my math is correct. 4 of you say it works and 2 say its a bunch of bull. My question To the people that say it works: How do you really KNOW for sure? I do believe in the power of thought and that thought is energy and the the most powerful things are those that are unseen but I just would like to know how you are so certain that it was the principles applied from the Secret and not that these things may have just naturally occured. Thanks in advance for your input. IP: Logged |
Johnny Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 07, 2007 12:47 AM
I'm fairly certain that your ability to speak for Linda is quite a bit less than you imagine it to be, Lotus. Writing in pseudo-poetic style ala Gooberz doesn't add weight to your words.
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sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 913 From: Durham, NC, USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted March 07, 2007 12:50 AM
The Secret can be as ugly or as beautiful as you want it to be. It's like anything else in life, really. You can use the principles they talk about in that video, to manifest the greater good, or you can use it for gains of a lower sort. Just because people might hawk it as a way of making millions, etc., does not nullify the potency of the technique, nor does it make it an ugly thing. For instance, the Secret can be used to raise our own consciousness or global consciousness. The principles of "there is more than enough to go around" might actually be used to reduce the imbalance in so much in this world (food, money, power), if enough people believe it. There is so much good that can be done if it is used the right way.Really, I must've missed the part about using it to make money, etc.; I honestly don't seem to remember that much about it, except for the main points, but then again, I'm terribly forgetful. I'm also fairly sure most of our knowflakes here, including sinderlou (who asked about it), are looking at the higher good, so no worries there. 2 more cents from me, Sunshine IP: Logged |
Johnny Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Colorado, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted March 07, 2007 12:54 AM
quote: How do you really KNOW for sure? I do believe in the power of thought and that thought is energy and the the most powerful things are those that are unseen but I just would like to know how you are so certain that it was the principles applied from the Secret and not that these things may have just naturally occured.
Not to pretend to be an expert or anything (cuz I'm not), but I don't think anyone can prove it to you one way or another. You'll always be able to find natural reasons for the events in your life; it's when you look deeper that you see signs that there's more going on then blind chance. You just have to try it and see. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone Knowflake Posts: 238 From: MOther & Father GOd Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 07, 2007 12:55 AM
too bad, no one using it, is a master. ... thus have no right to manipulate the Universal Laws
for their own gain. ... IP: Logged | |