posted March 21, 2007 03:13 PM         

Once you know and remember GOD and ThySelf...
and know your mission and purpose...

then Free Wi11 is gone

but up to that time of knowing

you have the choice to not see or hear...
Free Will Choice...

posted March 21, 2007 03:22 PM         

I agree, I never said they were mutually exclusive,
but I do see a fairly clear divide in these threads.

I have been sensitive at times,
others have been rational at times.
But the bulk of sensitivity is on your side,
and the bulk of rationality is on mine.

You disagree with me.
I think you are irrational.

Show me a rational argument.
We tried to have one before, remember?
I responded to all your points,
when you brought up Kant and Hume,
and your response was one of these dismissive,
"well, I'm not that into finding the truth,
I was only pretending to give a sh!t about it,
let's just agree to disagree,"
responses that are so popular around here.
If you wish to continue reasoning,
I heartily invite you to do so.

SINCERELY,
HSC

posted March 21, 2007 03:26 PM         

However, like you are so observantly pointing out, I am not really a fighter. I tire quickly during a battle, whether it be physical or intellectual, and I give in. But do not think that I was simply dismissing your ideas, I was simply done arguing.

We cannot all be scorpionic warriors like you, and if you are searching for such a rival, who will battle to the end, I suggest you enroll as a philosophy major at a university, you will find no end of opponents like yourself.

posted March 21, 2007 03:30 PM         

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Fayte,
I expect more from you than the predictable response.
I addressed this in my post.

I am not attacking and judging.
Use your Aqua Moon.

I love her.
I recognize and encourage her strengths,
and I recognize and discourage her weaknesses.

Have I said anything untrue?
Tell me what it is.

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quote:

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No doubt, people will respond now to what they see as a "personal attack" on one of LL's little darlings. It's unfortunate, but it is to be expected in this world of ours. I will only state that very very few things (perhaps too few things) are personal with me, and I do not "attack" anyone, but I do defend the truth rather forcefully, even obsessively.

Love AND Light,
HSC

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So after slamming and spitting on her you then drive home your cruelty with a further insult??????????
Then cap it with love annd light and then tell me you love her!

You insulted me too at UC but I held my comments!

posted March 21, 2007 03:50 PM         

I expect more from you than the predictable response.
I addressed this in my post.

I am not attacking and judging.
Use your Aqua Moon.

I love her.
I recognize and encourage her strengths,
and I recognize and discourage her weaknesses.

posted March 21, 2007 03:52 PM         

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I'm sorry, Fayte.
I was very worked-up when i wrote you that response.
I appreciate your compliments and "tact".

I'm still not sure what you are saying.

s

ps. have you heard from Lia?
I had a sort of "episode" last night,
and wrote her things I wish I hadn't.
I feel really awful.
No word from her yet.

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To HSC:
You do not deserve to be a moderator.
I truely regret voting for you now.

So yeah BlueRoamer....I am upset.
But if I defend I am sure HSC and others will tear into me.
So do I go away again?
Protect myself?
Pull away and pretend it is not happening?
And let my friends get trashed again?

I just do not know anymore.

posted March 21, 2007 04:00 PM         

Must you speculate on my motives for defending the truth?
I am not picking fights for no reason.
And there are easier ways to get attention,
and easier forms of attention to get.

I did not bring up anything Lia has said to me in particular.

Nor did I criticize her apporach.
On the contrary, I complimented her on it.

What I criticized is her distortion of situations,
and emotionally biased judgements of people's motives.

I believe she has pure intentions.
But she is wrong if she thinks intention is everything.
She needs to take a look at the judgments she is making,
and ask if they are fair and unbiased.
In many cases, they are not.

Thank you for letting me know my arguments were not lost on you,
and I appreciate the advice about finding my people.

posted March 21, 2007 04:03 PM         

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We ought all to be aware of each other's weaknesses and point them out to one another, and even publicly, just as we would want to point out a pot-hole in the road, so no one else cracks an axle on it.

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So now we should endeavor to judge people, and call out their weaknesses whenever we see them?

quote:

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No doubt, people will respond now to what they see as a "personal attack" on one of LL's little darlings. It's unfortunate, but it is to be expected in this world of ours. I will only state that very very few things (perhaps too few things) are personal with me, and I do not "attack" anyone, but I do defend the truth rather forcefully, even obsessively.

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posted March 21, 2007 04:14 PM         

fayte,

"He has posted that he has been cruel to her many times.
She keeps forgiving him."

I was cruel to her once.
I wrote her one cruel email
("cruel" only in that it was unflinchingly honest),
in response to an angry unfair email she sent me,
and later apologized for.

ONE "cruel" email,
To which I publicly confessed,
without even mentioning what inspired it.

posted March 21, 2007 04:24 PM         

HSC, your recent posts smell more of sensitivity than rationality. Not a judgment, merely an observation. And it's no harm, no foul. If you feel that nobody is addressing your argument, could you spell out whatever your argument is in one post, thread, or whatever? I do not mind going through it and addressing each point (no clue if I would agree with what you say or not). Unfortunately, I do not have the time or inclination to sift through various threads and posts to gather a patchwork of whatever point it is you are intent on making. Of course, if there is a thread where you have spelt out this argument in its entirety, please do point me to it. I do not guarantee the timeliness of my responses as I am in the middle of outlining for finals, but I do promise you that I will more than happily discuss and address any points you care to put forth.

posted March 21, 2007 04:29 PM         

You're right.
Speculate all you want.
Do it carefully, though.
I think you and AG are wrong.
I admit that there were personal feelings involved in what i wrote,
but the impersonal motives were there in abundance as well,
and I was very careful not to let the former influence the latter.

I deleted what i wrote not because i think i was wrong for sharing those things,
but, because i became less sure i was right.

posted March 21, 2007 04:34 PM         

I really apprecitate that.
I will get back to you soon.

thanx
s

posted March 21, 2007 05:34 PM         

(To put it delicately and SENSITIVELY)
Lia keeps posting quotes about Steve not being wise in between her misc comments on how he pretended to see HER wisdom, but she sees now that he never did. This is because of the point Fayte was kind enough to point out --> they they had a fight over email. Steve didn't say anything to me about it, although I see other chickens were cackling away.
Anyway, I'm sure by "episode" Steve meant that he got frustrated and actually showed a negative aspect of Scorpio, ooooooh tragic, no one else EVER DOES THAT, and since we are so used to him always showing only the best attributes of Scorpio and he actually slipped up once (AND THEN PUBLICLY APOLOGIZED FOR GOD'S SAKE) then IT WAS TIME TO GET OUT THE TAR AND FEATHERS. Mirandee is spanking Steve because Lia is her daughter and SHE certainly knows what went on between them , even if the REST OF US DON'T. (Lia obviously had hurt feelings and any female who has dealt with a Scop can relate to that) Fayte is Lia and Mirandee's friend. Out of respect for Rainbow and out of repect for the kind word Mirandee said to me when I was in the hospital I try to not get into it, BUT I SWEAR, IF YOU GUYS DON'T STFU AND LEAVE STEVE ALONE I WILL MAKE HIM TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED AND IIIIIIIIIIII WILL SPREAD YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS ALL OVER THE BOARD. GO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO OR EMAIL STEVE AND FIGHT ONE ON ONE INSTEAD OF GANGING UP AND TRYING TO DISCREDIT HIM TO THE NEWBIES.
If you are just emotional and upset, you will stop. If you don't stop, you are just a bunch of harpies.

posted March 21, 2007 05:44 PM         

"Beliefs separate. Loving thoughts unite."

-- Paul Ferrini

Our ego focuses on how we are different from the rest of the world. Our soul lives when we experience how we are the same.

Any time you separate yourself from other people or from situations, you know your personality is in control. At such times, shift your perspective to build connection and you will move into soul.

As our picture of life becomes larger, more things make sense and we have a greater playing field for life to unfold - naturally.

"As a holistic being you shatter the illusion of your separateness and reveal your connection to everything. This empowers you in a way that the ego-driven self could never contemplate."

-- Wayne Dyer

posted March 21, 2007 05:51 PM         

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BUT I SWEAR, IF YOU GUYS DON'T STFU AND LEAVE STEVE ALONE I WILL MAKE HIM TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED AND IIIIIIIIIIII WILL SPREAD YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESS ALL OVER THE BOARD.

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posted March 21, 2007 05:53 PM         

I don't think all that was necessary, Melody.
I really appreciate the protective instincts that inspired it though.
I do, really.
I'm not ungrateful.
I think it is very complicated.
Lia said she never even read the email I wrote.
I titled it "this isnt pretty",
so she avoided it long enough for
me to apologize and ask her to delete it,
which she said she did, without reading it.
I think there are other things upsetting her,
but i dont want to discuss this.
I think I made a mistake to bring up my correspondence with her,
in the first place, and i only continued
to discuss it because fayte made a very unfair accusation against me.

I'm glad you can see how hard I try to control my darkside.
Sometimes it trickles out, here and there, all over these forums.
Sometimes it spills.
I really try so hard, I wish people could see that.
I'm glad you seem to understand.
I really do suffer the most profound remorse,
and still punish myself for things I've done,
even words said in anger when i was a little kid to my sister!
My sense of justice is not lacking.
I'm still working on the mercy part.

Truth + Mercy = Justice