posted March 21, 2007 05:53 PM         

Mirandee is Lia's mom? Wow! I guess wisdom doesn't skip a generation.

HSC~

"'m glad you can see how hard I try to control my darkside.
Sometimes it trickles out, here and there, all over these forums.
Sometimes it spills."

posted March 21, 2007 06:00 PM         

Where's a pregnant woman when you need her? I know what would be just PERFECT right here:

posted March 21, 2007 06:02 PM         

Please hit the pause button while I bring out the popcorn.

I'm much more of a lurker than a poster. I've been around for a while though, and I do, occassionally, leave little nuggets around the place. Maybe not golden nuggets. Maybe not even chicken nuggets. But nuggets nonetheless. I have not read the other two threads in question, so I cannot speak on the topics they relate to. I have read enough on this thread, however, to make the humble observation that it really does not seem to me that anyone is 'attacking' or 'targeting' HSC. I see the questioning of certain arguments put forth by HSC that other posters do not agree with. This is neither rude nor inflammatory. It just is.
I do think it is very admirable for you, MysticMelody, to stick up for your friend HSC when you perceive that he is being attacked. I must point out, though, that the same misperceptions that you and HSC feel that other knowflakes are labouring under when it comes to HSC's posts can apply equally to your (and his) perceptions of those knowflakes' posts.

posted March 21, 2007 06:06 PM         

Mystic Melody, not that its any of your business but as Lia and Mirandee have both said here at LL......
and I will put it into my own blunt words.....
The friendship the three of us have, Lia, Mirandee and myself....
Is not a mutual azskissing relationship. I tell them rather bluntly when I feel they are wrong, and as they are good honest friends they tell me when I am wrong. We disagree on many things but it does not hurt our honest friendships. In fact we are oddly so different in many ways it is amazing that we are friends by the standards most folks think of when they think of friends.
Love to you my Radically Honest Loving Friends Lia and Mirandee !
Viva la Difference!

posted March 21, 2007 06:15 PM         

alchmeist - I have to agree with you on the last post. I think I posted something quite encouraging and positive to HSC in an attempt to convey that I have no 'personal' agenda - I simply did not agree with some of his ideas about Determanism and wanted clarification!

posted March 21, 2007 06:17 PM         

Alchemist, think whatever you want for now, you will see everything in time.

Fayte, well I haven't seen you telling anyone but Lotus that she was wrong, but I do always remember how you appeared to be interested in me when I was a Newbie and began to post to me on a thread where I was standing up for Lotus, but then just ignored me for the most part after I had served my purpose to you.
When I see real friends doing something wrong, I don't announce it loudly in public, I mention it to them in private. You do whatever floats your boat. As I said, you are an enigma to me and I have always found you interesting, just not today.

posted March 21, 2007 08:03 PM         

quote:

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Thanks for clearing that up, Fayte, it means a lot to me.

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and all. So if I suddenly act as though I do not know you, please do not take it personally. Partly it is me, partly it is my confusion over all the user name changes that I get people mixed up or am not sure who someone is, or if it is who I thought it is, or was...
Oh my! See? I am confusing myself again!
But seriously, I did not realize you thought I was ignoring you.
Heart--Shaped Cross
Thank you.

posted March 21, 2007 08:08 PM         

What was deleted?

Stephen?

I have to step away for now.

posted March 21, 2007 10:39 PM         

I Love You Too!!!! Always have!!!!SHHHH!!!!

Your My Star Brother!!!!

I can so relate to this:

Many people have suggest that I am crazy for even mentioning the possibility of a god, a soul, a non physical reality, other worlds. It's surprising how mean people can get when you say anything that goes against their world view. It seems that ideas are more important than compassion sometimes. Sadly.

posted March 21, 2007 10:51 PM         

I have learnt over the last yr, to never leave home without my Yellow Highlighter!!!!

When I misplace my Highlighter I know to stay away for awhile or until I find it again!!!!

Appreciation!!!

Thanks!!!

posted March 21, 2007 11:15 PM         

"The world we are experiencing today is the result of our collective consciousness, and if we want a new world, each of us must start taking responsibility for helping create it."

-- Rosemary Fillmore Rhea

Below are 7 levels of consciousness that clearly outline a path for our evolving consciousness:

- tribal and mass consciousness - one obeys the group and lives by trial and error
- individual consciousness - one develops a stronger sense of self and ego
- seeker’s consciousness - one asks questions and seeks independence
- intuitive consciousness - one develops the heart and is becoming spiritually aware
- group consciousness - one serves a higher good filling the needs of others
- soul consciousness - one experiences spiritual service.

On which level do you spend most of your time? What are you doing to shift to the next level of being?

There are as many paths to understanding, awareness, peace, freedom, love and meaningful service as there are people. Enjoy your journey!

"Consciousness is not just some by-product of the human brain mass. Consciousness is all pervasive. It is in everything and is everywhere. Your individual human consciousness exists within and is a part of a universal consciousness."

-- Delfin Knowledge System

"God acts in history: that is, God provides ideas, methods, and experiences intended to bring comprehension to man, an understanding heart, a conscious life."

-- Jacob Needleman

posted March 21, 2007 11:21 PM         

I will address a couple of things here though. Some truly cruel, hateful and hurtful things have been said on this thread by both MM and Steve that needs to be addressed.

MM you made a lot of unfounded assumptions and accusations regarding my daughter, Lia, telling me personal things that she and Steve have talked about in private. That is a biased assumption you have drawn because we are mother and daughter that has no basis in actual fact or reality. I have only heard good things about Steve from Lisa. The same applies to her friendship with AG. I only hear good things about AG. Nothing of a personal nature. She is not one to divulge even the most trivial things she talks to her friends about in private much less confidences of a personal nature that any of her friends may have shared with her. And I don't ask!!!! I am not, nor have I ever been a prying type mom.

Lisa seems to think very highly of Steve. Although at this point, if in fact Steve did divulge things on this thread that Lisa told him in private, then as a mom I might have a talk with Lisa about being more careful in her selection of friends and who she places her trust in. If Steve divulged private information that Lisa shared with him on a public forum like LL then that is about as low a thing anyone can do to a friend. Especially a friend who would not even tell her own mom anything he told her in private. I don't know what Steve said but what he did, well, I do not think he is worthy of a friend like Lisa. Sorry but that is how I feel about anyone who sinks that low.

Lisa has always been understanding, compassionate, empathetic and consistently forgiving of hurts that people have laid on her. I honestly have wondered many times how much hurt one soul can bear and still go on thinking the best about people, still go on loving others, caring about them and what happens to them, and be as forgiving as she is. In fact, she is still the best of friends with her ex-husband and goes out of her way for him. She still, in spite of all the hurt of that separation and divorce loves him and cares what happens to him. I am constantly amazed at her strength of endurance and how she will not let hurts or maltreatment by those she cares for make her a bitter and hard person.

Oh, I do know when she is hurt. Though she might not go into a lot of detail about it or what was said or done to her, I have been a shoulder to for her tears many times in her life. Yet Lisa has only grown stronger as a woman through all her hurts and all her struggles in life. For that reason I am proud to have given birth to her, proud that she is my daughter, but even if she wasn't my daughter I would have nothing but admiration for her and wonder over her strength and endurance.

I noticed that you did put in an apology thread here at FFA, Steve. Knowing Lisa as I do she will probably forgive you for God knows how many times now, not because you deserve it, but because of the person that Lisa is. Being a mom who hears her sobs and sees my child hurting it might take me a little longer to offer up that forgiveness but being as I also am you can go to the bank on it. Just don't expect it right away. Moms are like that about their kids. It's an inate characteristic of all moms to protect their kids. Well, maybe not all moms but most of us.

posted March 21, 2007 11:25 PM         

I love the things you are posting.

I wish it were as simple as saying
"compassion is more important than ideas".
Some ideas are very powerful;
capable of inspiring untold compassion.
Changing the world.

For some reason,
telling people about love isnt doing it.
There seems to be a block.
I think it is in people's minds.
People have accepted ideas that limit who they can love.
Ideas that blame others.
But there are ideas that allow us to remove these blocks,
and develop insight into people,
so that we can understand them.
Understanding breeds compassion.

The people we are trying to reach
are precisely those whose hearts are closed.
I suggest that there are ways to reach them on a mental level,
and that they are more likely to be open to these.

Imagine if you had an idea,
something as clear as 1+1=2,
and whenever you were tempted to blame someone
and justify violence against them,
this idea popped into your head,
and clearly illustrated to you
how innocent the person before you is.

This is my reality.
This is how I live.

I think it could work for others too.

At those moments when i am most upset,
and my heart is most closed to others,
my mind is still open to a self-evident idea.

posted March 21, 2007 11:48 PM         

You and Lia have strong convictions and much love to offer the world in whole!!!

Thanks!!!!