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lalalinda
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posted March 20, 2007 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
that makes no sense to me at all.
I have never turned my back on God.

What does the US have to do with it?

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lotusheartone
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posted March 20, 2007 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
we all turned our backs on God, each and everyone of us, us is us, all of us...

without even knowing....

for the ones in Power, made up the laws to keep control...the rest just followed
and eventually the Truth was mostly forgotten...

but, the answers are within...God is within...
and we must Re-Member, GOD

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364 days a year, 28 days a month
13 months,
we even took God off our calendar. ...

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hippichick
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posted March 20, 2007 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Well this has been quite interesting viewing the corespondence on this thread...

Mirandee--please to not lecture me on Constitutional rights---Government is required for high school and college education in the US, and I have both. Yes there are issues of slander, etc. to be taken into account, however since on public forums people are virtually annonymous to their personal identity----that will not fly. And porn sites do not engage in intellectual conversation of the art and physiology of sex as did Magus in his thread. If sex were bad and "dirty" I am pretty sure the physical act would not produce such beautiful creatures! And I happen to agree with Magus, sex is healing, regenerative---and is purely a natural part of the human condition.

To all...

That was a very insightful and interesting thread and it was the small few who are obviously not comfortable with themselves, muchless their sexuality that put the incorrect notion of degrading to an intellecutal and informative thread.

Maybe the people who are engaging in poor behavior and attacking others should be "closed" and not the intangible object of a "thread."

Why is it that an individual who has been on hiatus from LL can all of a sudden request a thread be closed and like magic---it is closed??? If I request that particular thread to be re-opened would I dare to think it will??? Nope!!!

It seems to me that LL is not run by the collective concious of the many individuals that post here, but a chosen few.

Now, let us obverve another case, the case of two individuals verbally and psychically atttacking Sue....Regarding the first thread, HER thread, it would seem to me that that thread should have been left open and the individuals doing the attacking repremanded. In another instance a thread was started to attack Sue, that thread should have been eliminated as so the author as soon as it started as it brought negative energy and hate to LL.

Threads in themselves are merely a slate on which to write---the INDIVIDUALS are the ones who make it or break it....

Blessings

Terri

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AcousticGod
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posted March 20, 2007 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I had no idea you were referring to the Sex Magick thread until just now. Interesting.

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Mirandee
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posted March 21, 2007 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
In the first place, I was not "lecturing" you, hippiechick. Just stating that verbal abuse is not covered by free speech. And it's not.

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Yes there are issues of slander, etc. to be taken into account, however since on public forums people are virtually annonymous to their personal identity----that will not fly.

You are wrong about that. People are not annonymous on the internet at any site. Every computer has an ID and from that you can be traced by the authorities right to your doorstep. Happens all the time to hackers and people who have had charges brought against them. There are laws regulating conduct on the internet and those laws are international so it makes no difference what country you might live in.

Regarding the SexMagick thread which was recently bumped up by both you and Magus being closed that is something that you need to take up with Randall and tell him what should and shouldn't have been done. He's running this site. Not us.

He edited Fayte's post, stated it was him editing it and gave his reason for closing the thread. If you don't like him closing it due to a glitch then you have to take it up with him.

Don't try to lay it on Fayte and say that she got the thread closed. It wasn't working right as neither Fayte nor myself could see who bumped it up to the top. The posts weren't showing up. Randall found the glitch and showed who bumped it and it turned out to be you and Magus at no doubt, SueG's behind the scenes promptings, acting like latent teenagers and playing silly games ( IE a by Magus and a " bumpity, bumpity, bump" by you)

It's sad that SueG uses her "friends" like this but even sadder that her "friends" allow her to do it. I personally would never be that desparate for friends that I would allow them to use me to exact their revenge. Especially someone who along with another member here at LL practiced her own version of victimization just before Christmas and at the time our dear friend was dying to attempt to smear the character of myself and my daughter all over the boards of LL. It was SueG who started that whole attack. Then she screamed "THIS IS VICTIMIZATON!!!!" when all Silverstone did was ask her a question. She started that whole thing too and I didn't see you complaining, hippiechick, when sesame closed and edited that thread at SueG's request.

As for all of it, why don't you follow the advice that your friend SueG is constantly going around the threads at LL and telling others, " It's in the past. You need to let it go and move on. You need to forgive like I do." lmao

Let's just get real here. We all know what this is all about and who is behind it all and to what purpose. Some people are just vengeful by nature.

edited to add: You didn't see either myself of my daughter participating in the across the boards attack on us by SueG and her buddy DFD and you didn't hear us whining about it either did you? We just let it go. Forgave and moved on. But I sooooo do not want to hear either yours or SueG's sob story and whining about how unfair you have been treated at LL after that across boards victimization of Sue's around Christmas.


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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Randall used my name to close the thread.
I do not know why he did not use his.
I wanted the thread fixed.
Or if he could not fix it for some reason to close it because it was being bumped up and no new posts were showing.
Apparently Randall was unable to fix it and closed it.
That was his decision not mine.

Do not put the blame on me hippichick.
Talk to Randall about it and why he posted using my name.
And since when is, my taking a hiatus a crime?
You seem a bit too nosey interested in me than is natural. And angry at me, yet I have never to my recollection fought with you.
So what is with all this personal attacking?

You also said:
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Now, let us obverve another case, the case of two individuals verbally and psychically atttacking Sue....

Am I the only one who can read? I stayed out of it as it was going on. Silverstone gave her cards...she had asked for...then denied having done so. Silverstone gave her RANDOM drawn cards which offended her. She called him negative for that and then announced to all that she never asked for cards from him. Well she had indeed done so. When he defended himself she became angry. From there it escalated because others taking Sue's side without bothering to see it was she who insulted Silverstone and then lied..started it.
You say she was psychically attacked? HUH???? Is this the dark ages or something? Where in Heaven's name was she psychically attacked? As for the verbal abuse, she attacked Silverstone simply because she did not like the cards he drew for her.
And as for Lotus, she should have stayed out of it. Silverstone told her to stay out.
But Lotus was already rather upset at Sue lying at FFA about having never been repremanded for violating the rules and Sue claiming to not know the rules.
Sorry, but no matter how much you love Sue, she started it with Silverstone and continued her attacking him, and then Lotus.
Then had the nerve after denying the lying to post days later:

From Sue g:
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posted March 02, 2007 04:28 PM
Still cant for the life of me think what I have lied about.....?

And no one finds that strange?
I am not attacking Sue here, only pointing out the facts.
I wanted to stay out of that fight. But since you have pulled me into it and slammed me for closing a thread which is not within my power to do so.....I have spoken and urge you to re-read the sequence of events which led to that fight. Sue attacked Silverstone unprovoked.....just because he gave her two cards she asked for but she did not like. Well all cards pulled will not be happy happy joy joy cards! Yet you accuse him of "psychally" attacking her? Man! Talk about paranoia! Why on earth would he do such a thing even if he could? He barely nows her! And since when are you the expert on psychic attacks and Sue g being psychically attacked?
Very weird!
And now you attack me.
Why?
As to all that fighting? All those threads should have been deleted, not simply closed.

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Eleanore
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posted March 21, 2007 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Neither did I, AcousticGod. Oh hell, AG. Geez, you'd think formality would have been left at the front door long ago.

Um, don't know what the anger(?) over the Sex Magick thread being closed is about. Randall closed the thread because of a glitch. He explained his actions quite clearly.

Here is the last post made by fayte.m with Randall's edit.

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fayte.m
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Would someone please either delete this stupid thread or fix it?
From Randall: This Post will say I edited it, but I had to add something to it in order to pull up and display the hidden Posts. There's a glitch, so I am closing it.


[Note: This message has been edited by Randall]


(bold mine)


So I don't get what the issue is here.

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hippichick
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posted March 21, 2007 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
Ok people---

I merely cited a few examples, those cited exapmles were not what my original thoughts were about----

My issue is that threads are addressed while the individuals that make them go bad are not........

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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
When I said stupid thread I was frustrated because it did not work! My comment had nothing to do with the actual thread.
I had nothing to do with its closing!
If I could close threads there are several others that I would close or delete....but not that one.
And others I would reopen because they should not have been closed! Many are Sue G threads that were closed because they were not good for her reputation. How conveinant.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message

Sounds like an honest misunderstanding to me.

fayte,
I dont think hippichick had a problem with you haitus. What she was saying, it seems, is that it would be nice if decisions around here were more democratic, and determined by consensus. When an individual voices a concern, it is unfortunate that their voice, just because it is offended, determines whther the thread should be closed or not. I think it bothered her that, not only was the complaint voiced by just one person, but, that the person who voiced the complaint had not been an active member of the community for some time, that's all.

But, I agree with everything you said.
And I think Eleanore cleared up for us
why Randall had to close the thread due to a glitch,
which he initially only meant to edit.

No comment about Sue.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee,

Since you seem to have missed my response to you,
I'm reposting it on this page of the thread.
I'm confident you have integrity enough to answer for these things:

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Then just forgive me for not being you and seeing and thinking as you do.
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I have not blamed you, so there is no need to forgive you. I do not accept the logic of blame or forgiveness. I see only misunderstanding and understanding. I cannot "forgive" you for misunderstanding, I can only accept you for it. And I have already accepted you for it. I accept you as you are, but that does not mean, as you seem to suggest, that I must leave you where you are. I have not merely called out to you from the mountain, or come down to meet you half-way. I have made every effort to meet you where you are, before pointing out to you the direction of the truth.

I have not denied your point of view, though it may appear that way to you. I have tried to show you that what I am denying is not anything which you have seen, but, the assumptions and illusions you have formed to explain what you have seen. Just as Christ did not wish to abolish the law, but to fulfill it, I do not wish to invalidate your perspective, but, to expand upon it. The only thing I invalidate, are the limits you have accepted, and the assumptions (or "beliefs") you have projected beyond those limits. I do not deny the mountains you see surrounding you, but, I deny the validity of your assumption that there is nothing beyond the mountains, or that, if there is anything, it cannot be known. I agree only that it cannot be known from your point of view. But I have been to the tops of those mountains, and I entreat you to use your reason and your legs to follow me up any one of them, and see what lies beyond.

Beyond the choices you see people making, there are conscious motives, and out beyond the conscious motives you see, there are environmental factors and unconscious motives. As I see it, the existence of an unconscious mind positively disproves the existence of a free will. I would like you to tell me how a person who is not in any position to choose (or even percieve) the motives behind their choices, and who cannot perceive the end results of their choices, can possibly be called "free".


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That does not make my beliefs any less profound and meaningful to me as your beliefs are to you.
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Agreed. What makes your beliefs less profound is not that they conflict with my knowledge, but, that they are founded on fantasy, and not substance. What makes them less meaningful is that they encourage you to take things at face value, rather than inquire into the nature of things. The "profound" comfort you derive from your beliefs is like the comfort a person feels when he sits "peacefully" (i.e. complacently) at home, and reassures himself that there is no need to concern himself with the outer world. Your peace is the peace of the sleeper, not the peace of the sage. Until you reach the peace of the sage, all lesser peace will be used to passify your noblest aspirations the instant they become such as to require any effort from you to transform your perspective. If you want to see in all directions, Mirandee, you must be willing to turn your head.


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Nor does it mean that I just suspect these things that I believe to be true. In fact, from experience along with knowledge I KNOW these things to be true.
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"At last,
the ass appeared on stage,
bold and most brave."
Ah, Mirandee, honesty, at last!
(And in capitals, no less!)
I could KISS you!


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I happen to think that you are wrong about many things you have said on the threads here at LL. How do you like them apples? How do you like being told that you are wrong?
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LOL! I can take it. For one thing, I know I am right, so, it doesn't threaten me a bit. And, honestly, I'm just so happy you are finally getting real with me, I don't even know what to do with myself. I am glowing! It's just too bad your motive seems to be to hurt me. But, hey, I'm not one to look a gift-horse in the mouth.

It's funny,... while I have voiced no moral objection to saying I am right, you have voiced yours with great passion. And yet, here you are, still holding it against me for admitting it, and now admitting it yourself. I'm not saying you are a hippocrite...


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I never come out and tell you that you are wrong because you are young and still have a lot of learning and growing to do.
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And I suppose you have no desire to assist in that learning and growing, by sharing the fact that you are utterly convinced, and the reasons for your conviction? The truth is, Mirandee, you strike me as pretty young yourself, whereas I've always known I was a very old soul. The difference here is that I want you to know that I am not just speculating when I open my mouth. I am speaking truth, and I have indisputable proof, for those with with ears to hear. Can I ask you a question? Is there any air in your chart at all?


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Come back when you are in your mid 40's and if you still think and believe along the same lines as you do now about everything then all I can say is that it has more to do with control and just plain stubborness than it has to do with intelligence or seeking what truth you can find in life.
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That is your assumption. If what I am thinking is true (and it is), then age will only deepen my understanding and conviction. This is funny to me, because the vast majority of my ideas have probably gone through more revisions and fine-tunings than the ideas of anyone I have ever met. While most people just go around parrotting whichever cliche pops into their head, regardless of whether it is true for a particular situation, I spend my life thinking up multiple possible cliches for any situation, and systematically determining which one truly applies. My intellectual life is so vital and dynamic, I barely have time for anything else!! The one thing that has stood the test of time is my conviction in Determinism. And I will bet my soul, that, when the dust settles, much of what you call your "knowledge" will be buried underneath it, and much of what I call my knowledge will be dancing merrily on the grave.


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Change and growth is more a sign of intelligence and being on the right path to truth than anything else in life.
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Agreed.
The question is,
who needs this advice more right now?
Me or you?

For once,
Don't take it personally;
I still love you,

HSC

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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee
I apologize for not coming in to defend you and Lisa over that period where Sue was attacking you both with "help".
I was hoping things would resolve in time.
I knowing the big picture and the real reasons why Sue hates you and me and your daughter so much.(in her mind we are some kind of evil trine/trio) And now Silverstone
because he drew RANDOM cards she feared.
I am sorry for leaving you all to defend yourselves. I sincerely was hoping it would blow over.
I could not openly defend you two or Silverstone because Sue would then use that crap of "I betrayed her" again.
I cannot and could not defend you without laying all the cards on the table of what Sue is really angry about, without exposing another knowflake who was involved with us and Sue could not tolerate it.
As she said when she attacked me:
Quote from Sue:
quote:
"And of course....you can talk to who you want Fayte...Jesus.....true friends dont let ANYONE become betweem them do they?
If I have a problem with that, then yes its MY problem, not yours"

To which I replied:

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Well now I see in retrospect why these attacks. When I get attacked for doing just that, then it indeed becomes my problem.

Sue said similar to Silverstone whilst virtually accusing him of psychically attacking her and admitted it was "in her mind"....her assumptions only, not any evidence, other than her own paranoia.
From Sue g:
quote:
If you do not agree with my way of thinking and I was to become offended...then that is my problem

Yes...do not offend Sue or make her jealous. Do NOT disagree with her!
She will not keep it as simply her problem..but seek vengence upon the person with whom she is unjustly angry with, and or their friends.
Yes, as she has said more than those two times I have illustrated here...and do so again so as to not cause any confusion:

From Sue g to Me:

quote:
"And of course....you can talk to who you want Fayte...Jesus.....true friends dont let ANYONE become betweem them do they?
If I have a problem with that, then yes its MY problem, not yours"

From Sue g to Silverstone:
quote:
If you do not agree with my way of thinking and I was to become offended...then that is my problem

It becomes OUR problem when Sue g cannot let it be simply her own internal problem, and seeks covert ways to strike out in her anger and paranoia, doesn't it?

No one is out to "get" her. And folks she disagrees with, or they her, are not dark and evil or out to psychically attack her.

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Mama Mia
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posted March 21, 2007 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
uugggghhhhh drama, drama and more drama...

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 21, 2007 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Mama,

LOL, that was pretty dramatic.

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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Mama Mia
Yes.
It is getting tiresome.
I try to back off from it all and get sucked back into it all again.
I am backing out again.
Enough already.
So anyone wanting me to defend them....
I am done.
I apparently offended several folks for defending Lotus, when the implication was made, that it was she was who drove me away from LL for almost 1/2 a year.
Lotus was not in any way the reason for my hiatus.
Friend or foe, it was not right to let her take the blame, for something she did not do.
But I have recieved some confused letters and some angry ones too, asking me why on earth I would want to defend Lotus.
WHY?
Because she was being falsely implicated in my leaving.
That made it personal to me.

If anyone still thinks I was weird or wrong, to defend a person unjustly implicated, then you all need to look at what you own codes of honor are.
There are certain political figures, whom I feel need punished for actual misdeeds.
But if said persons were being tried or tortured, for things they were not guilty of, I would defend even them, against the false charges, even as I support them being punished for the things they are proven guilty of.
I hope that made sense to at least some here who have questioned my reason for defending Lotus.

PS.These Dramas are not amusing HSC.

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lotusheartone
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posted March 21, 2007 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Fayte!

as for little old me...

there are only three people I email
back and forth with...
I hope they don't mind me mentioning
them, Silverstone and Thorshammer and
sVirgo...

all the other emails are for reading requests...

I am very much out of the loop here,
and that is okay with me...

I'm amazed so many feel the need
to talk about me behind my back...

Face me here, head on...

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posted March 21, 2007 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus
Thank You.
Namaste`

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posted March 21, 2007 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Mwah!
and a Big Hug of LOve...Fayte... .

I believe we can all get along, it just takes some effort, and LOts of LOve
unconditionally. ...

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posted March 21, 2007 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
HSC
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When an individual voices a concern, it is unfortunate that their voice, just because it is offended, determines whther the thread should be closed or not.

I was a heavy poster on that thread! I did not want it closed "unless" it could not be fixed to accept new posts that would show up....as it was being bumped but no new posts were showing.

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I think it bothered her that, not only was the complaint voiced by just one person,

It was not a complaint concerning the actual TOPIC of the thread,
but a desire to see it fixed so folks could post, or close it so it would not keep being blind post bumped!
Again my calling it "stupid" was because it was broken,and I was frustrated because I could not post or see new posts. NOT because of the Subject.
quote:
but, that the person who voiced the complaint had not been an active member of the community for some time, that's all.

So you and she are saying that any knowflake away for any extended time, for any reason, be it personal, or health problems, or computer trouble, or told in certain ways, to leave or else....said person is not a member anymore? When I was able to return I did. It is none of your business nor hippichick's either as to why I left for awhile.
If Randall wants me to inform him of any future hiatus I will.
If Randall wants to cancell anyone's memberships after a year or so....that he can do.
But I am not the only Knowflake who has drifted into LL and out and back again.

Anyone with a problem with that or what they feel a member should be, or do, or not be, or not do.....
Take it up with Randall, Not with me!


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posted March 21, 2007 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus said:
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I believe we can all get along, it just takes some effort, and LOts of LOve
unconditionally.....

Agreed.
That includes people minding their own business and not judging another as to why they took a hiatus, or for how long, or the not considering them a Knowflake because of taking a hiatus.
It also means folks need to stop making assumptions about each other. Stick to facts or shut up.
Or ask questions if you do not know.
Or take it private.
And fights?
Do not jump on bandwagons before you read for yourselves what really happened.
Or better yet! No freaking bandwagons!
Like in Mad Max, Thunderdome.
Keep it between the two involved. Everyone else try to stay out if you can.
Unless a thing is said about YOU or to YOU personally; or actually involves you, even if indirectly because of some action you took; as when I defended You Lotus when it became personal to me, because You were being falsely implicated in my leaving.
BTW..the YOUs are not directed at You Lotus, but anyone/everyone.


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Mama Mia
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posted March 21, 2007 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Mama Mia
Yes.
It is getting tiresome.
I try to back off from it all and get sucked back into it all again.
I am backing out again.
Enough already.
So anyone wanting me to defend them....
I am done.

Fayte: Why do you keep going on and on with this. No one is even responding or arguing back about this. If its tiresome to you and you want to back off then let this go and on to something else more positive and uplifting..I think ppl get the point..

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posted March 21, 2007 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I thought this conflict was already settled and that we had moved on. That string could not be repaired, so it had to be closed. I wanted all the Posts to show, so I had to edit the last one. I could have said nothing in it, and it would still state that it was edited, so I posted something to let everyone know it wasn't really edited. It was just a roll of the dice as to who had the last Post. When a string gets ridiculously long, it tends to glitch. Normally, we start a second string to carry it on. What's the big deal?

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fayte.m
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posted March 21, 2007 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Mama Mia
quoting me:
quote:
Mama Mia
Yes.
It is getting tiresome.
I try to back off from it all and get sucked back into it all again.
I am backing out again.
Enough already.
So anyone wanting me to defend them....
I am done.

Then you said:
quote:
Fayte: Why do you keep going on and on with this. No one is even responding or arguing back about this. If its tiresome to you and you want to back off then let this go and on to something else more positive and uplifting..I think ppl get the point...

Why have I keep going?
Because I had not finished replying to all here directed towards me.
I had just awoke to find this thread. I skimmed it and begain replying.
I should have waited until the coffee kicked in before responding. I missed bits which I then responded to, because I had not initially noticed nor addressed them.
I could say more.
But after finally, as I should have done BEFORE I replied intitially and stated I was done, Well I have finally re-read the entire page with my cappuchino jump start to reduce brain farts.......
And now...barring any more posts or brain fartings....

Yes.....
I believe I am done here.


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posted March 21, 2007 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
THANKS RANDALL!
I have been getting flack by e-mail and other ways....for the Sex Magic thread closing!
You would be surprised at the outrage, not just as it was seen here.
Thank You for clarifying it to everyone.
It is muchly appreciated!

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silverstone
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posted March 21, 2007 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Hippichick,

I think we all left this in the past, no?

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Ok people---
I merely cited a few examples, those cited examples were not what my original thoughts were about----

Sorry, but apparently, your previous post proves differently
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Now, let us observe another case, the case of two individuals verbally and psychically attacking Sue....Regarding the first thread, HER thread, it would seem to me that that thread should have been left open and the individuals doing the attacking reprimanded. In another instance a thread was started to attack Sue, that thread should have been eliminated as so the author as soon as it started as it brought negative energy and hate to LL.

I don’t think Mirandee or Fayte would’ve commented otherwise. It’s very evident that you wanted to bring this up again; otherwise, why even bother bringing this up?

I will tell you this much, I said what I had to say to Sue and dropped it. This was between Sue and myself and nobody else. I’m not one to start threads to defend neither others nor myself. Some people are simply attention freaks and liars so why even bother!

Furthermore, I believe Fayte basically said what I wanted to say

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That includes people minding their own business and not judging another as to why they took a hiatus, or for how long, or the not considering them a Knowflake because of taking a hiatus.
It also means folks need to stop making assumptions about each other. Stick to facts or shut up.
Or ask questions if you do not know.
Or take it private.
And fights?
Do not jump on bandwagons before you read for yourselves what really happened.
Or better yet! No freaking bandwagons!
Like in Mad Max, Thunderdome.
Keep it between the two involved. Everyone else try to stay out if you can.
Unless a thing is said about YOU or to YOU personally; or actually involves you, even if indirectly because of some action you took; as when I defended You Lotus when it became personal to me, because You were being falsely implicated in my leaving.

Edited to add:

If Sue still has something she wants to say to me please tell her she can; otherwise, please let this go

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The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.

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