posted May 06, 2007 09:42 PM         

"Human history is the sad result of each one looking out for himself."

-- Julio Cortazar

We indulge ourselves when we seek to meet our longings through desires of the personality. We indulge ourselves when we buy more clothes to make us happy, when we eat another snack to ease the hunger, when we have an affair to feel powerful or loveable. Any pleasure we get, if we get any at all, is shallow and short- lived.

The only lasting satisfaction can come from meeting the deep spiritual needs of the soul. We discover what we are really after in life when we identify the spiritual qualities and needs that lie behind our desires for material pleasures.

"But life lived only for oneself does not truly satisfy men or women. There is a hunger in Americans today for larger purposes beyond the self."

-- Betty Friedan

posted May 07, 2007 01:10 AM         

Unless we learn to feed and satiate the soul, we will never be able to "buy" peace and have a meaningful existence. What has the modern innovations and technology brought about for US, but unwarranted competition, self worthlessness and all the things that were once in Pandora's Box.

I do however agree that some of the modern day innovations are helping us, but that is not all. Beyond a point we become troubles with our lack of atonement with our own S-ELF.

posted May 09, 2007 10:19 AM         

You would think that years upon years of wars, genocide attempts, famine, etc would have give us enough insight as to what we are doing wrong. Afraid it ain't so and you know what? We'll never learn. What ever act of supposable kindness we do is only to make ourselves feel better and thus one cannot call it a selfless act now can we? The only way one can survive in this cocked up world is to hold one's own ground, define your own goals in life and make plans for your future and try doing so with the least amount of colletral damage on others. Oh yes... there will always be colletral damage, make no mistake about that.

posted May 09, 2007 03:39 PM         

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Xodian, according to whoever wrote those quotes, mankind is self destructive precisely because it is seeking to satisfy itself materially. like eating food to feel good, it only works in the very short term. money for security, marriage for love...we just want easy solutions to everything. we dont want to look into why we feel we r lacking in say love or security. and address the need at its roots.

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posted May 10, 2007 08:54 AM         

There is a wide variety of archetypes/gods/planets/motive forces
(call them what you will; they have many names)
active upon our unconscious minds, desires, and wills.
We must honor them and accord them a place in our lives.
A sense of priority and discipline is important,
but the unconscious knows better than us what is needed.
Repressed, unexpressed drives only grow more insistant and formidable.
Our estimation of them makes them bigger,
and our resistance to them gives them their power.
Often, a motive which appears selfish,
if it is allowed to express itself when it is small,
will not end up as a giant blocking the path.

"Every philosophy is a philosophy of the moment." - Nietzsche
When we hold too rigidly to any one thing,
whether it is an ideal, a philosophy, or a path,
we demonize that which threatens to oppose it,
and this demonization only promotes the opposition.

We cannot hope to exalt what is soul in us,
by disparaging what is personal.
What is personal grows out of what is soul.
The personality is a protective shell,
anterior to the soul, but not antagonistic to it.
It forms out of those pieces of soul which we have clung to,
because we treasured them; out of love, desire, or fear.

The personality must have solid form,
while remaining maleable to the changing demands of the soul.
Soul always provokes the personality to change,
but it does this by offering what is needed.

"People travel to wonder at the height of the mountains, at the huge waves of the seas, at the long course of the rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars, and yet they pass by themselves without wondering."

~St. Augustine

One must first have developed a strong personal ego,
and sense of oneself as an individual within the group (Aquarius),
in order to go beyond this (Pisces);
otherwise, one is left open to many destructive influences and excesses
which make real transcendance all the more difficult.

The path is a delicate balancing act of soul and personality,
for soul is always trying to become personality,
and personality is expressive and protective
of the soul's past and present intentions.

posted May 10, 2007 09:18 AM         

I couldn't of said that better Mys-Elf!!!!

Thanks!!!! You got it all rolled up into a nut shell!!! Very Nice!!!!

You Get It!!!!! Well Put!!!

posted May 10, 2007 09:35 AM         

We either CONTRIBUTE to the cause or we contaminate it!!!

posted May 10, 2007 09:44 AM         

But whose to say if that motive is selfish or selfless when in actuallity even the most selfless of acts are selfish. A parent raises a child in hopes to carry on his/her generation, We do good deeds because it in turns makes us feel good, etc. A soul's need is equiilant of that of desires and trust me; Needs and wants constantly change. If we could have distiguised the difference we wouldn't be in a state of constant competition with one another.

posted May 10, 2007 09:49 AM         

Without diseases would we need cures?

Not trying to rattle anyone, that's just what I thought when I read your last post, Solane.

posted May 10, 2007 10:00 AM         

This my be your TRUTH but, not MINE!!!LOL!!!

There's the Difference again!!!LOL!!!

I use to have the seem beliefs & programming but choose to reprogram my HEART & Computer!!!! LOL!!!

posted May 10, 2007 12:37 PM         

Different views, same result IMO. So why should I as a person repress my own personal desires or goals and regreat not having had the chance to do any of that what I wanted to do on my death bed?