posted June 01, 2007 08:48 PM         

Why don't you go somewhere else where you are welcome lala LOSER.

posted June 01, 2007 10:44 PM         

You could have actually contributed to the conversation instead of just trying to point out a flaw in my statements. This just shows that you were looking for an argument, a battle, and not looking to contribute.

posted June 02, 2007 12:12 AM         

i'm glad you have enough faith in this forum to come here for support. not having medical insurance sucks =(

some transits you have had in recent times besides the pluto conj sun u mentioned:

Pluto conj neptune.
pluto transiting thru 12th house (bringing out deep hidden feelings?)
Saturn has been trudging along through your 7th house, and is now at the cusp of 8th.
It opposed your Venus AND moon some time beginning of last year. that too when it was in your 7th house. must have been a difficult time with respect to relationships.

8th and 12th houses are both water houses. Perhaps that explains the heightened feelings. or may be this is a delayed reaction from the aforementioned heavy transits. perhaps you are trying to process and integrate the feelings from previous experiences, feelings which got activated during those transits.

posted June 02, 2007 12:24 AM         

Pluto Transits Through Your Twelfth House: This is the house of “self-undoing”, the dustbin of the horoscope where we throw things that we don’t want to deal with. Pluto loves to go through dustbins and dumpsters. During this transit, old psychological problems, that you thought you had dealt with years earlier, come up again and demand to be heard. Don’t panic. Just face them (easier said than done, but you have to do it). This is also the house of hidden enemies. No, you are not standing there minding your own business and these nasty people come at you. Check your own behavior to make sure that you are not doing something to irritate them and set them off.

this interp is for pluto conj sun- are you feeling dominated/aggressive? or having trouble with authority figures too?

posted June 02, 2007 12:40 AM         

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I've often found myself crying lately at the drop of a hat, after seeing a homeless person, thinking about people starving in the world, just the horrible injustice and unfairness of life, how everyone suffers so incredibly with seemingly no purpose behind it. I see people struggling just to survive, while spoiled rich people scoff and detest them for being ill or homeless or poor.

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posted June 02, 2007 03:53 AM         

So, yes, even Pisces have the Mutable criticism inborn in their personalities.

posted June 03, 2007 03:51 AM         

ALl of it has come true, and yes I am still integrating a very hard experience from my saturn sq moon and oppo venus, while pluto ran over my sun/neptune. I lived with a mentally ill person at that time who drove me to the edge of my ropes, to a point where I had to break the lease where I was living, my dreams began to become very violent towards this person, and I knew that a primal part of me was taking over, and I was afraid of what it might do. I forgive this person now because I know that they were no mal intentioned, but I also have great compassionate towards everyone that comes in contact with this person, for they spread misery and fear with great power.

posted June 03, 2007 04:59 AM         

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I just want to say
Thirteen, what you said was so right. Measuring our self-esteem by what we do for others. The perfect antidote.

1Scorp
"Don't surround yourself with people that attempt to make you feel inferior. Some people are just miserable and in return they're not satisfied until everyone else is."

It is easy enough for adults, when we have a bit more control over our lives than we did as children. But not for a child, when forced, every single day, to go to a place- known as school- where they are FORCED to be in the situation you just described. It is like torture. (Or, they may, on the other hand be unhappy at home rather than school. Or they may be unhappy in both, as in my case).

There may be some adults who have no choice but to continue to put up with this sort of thing because of their job, etc; the situation they are in, depending on where and who they are. I think that the line "life is what you make it" only holds some truth, because we are living in a 'collective' reality.

When you are powerless, as a child is, as captive animals are, life isn't what you make it but how others make it for you....no-one is entirely free...in this dimension anyway.

The thing which makes me most sad in life is just that- the powerlessness of those just mentioned. And adults too- prisoners of war and such, because we are all children, at heart. Powerlessness....Free Will...how we all struggle for power in life in the wrong way (battling for control over others) which destroys another being's Free Will...all these things are how I FEEL that I KNOW this is really a 'Savage Garden' we are living in. (I've just been 'talking' about this on the topic 'End Times' in Universal Codes).

posted June 03, 2007 12:54 PM         

That sounds scary. and very pluto-like.

I can't say I've come across a mentally ill person at such close quarters. But I have had my share of some very negative individuals. Being with them I feel like I am walking a tight rope. I become very tense myself. People do give off 'vibes' and I have found the need to consciously understand that I am absorbing them. Then I am sometimes able to stop them from sucking my energy. That's what it feels like to me, I feel like somebody just sucked the life out of me. Its weird. And I feel like this just thinking about them.

Perhaps your dreams are a manifestation of Pluto conj Neptune, (tht too in 12th house !!), while your conscious experience with them a product of Pluto conj Sun. Can't say why they came into your life, though. Did you learn anything significant about yourself from it? Did you have similar feelings for some other person some other time in your life and this incident made u aware of them? I say this because all these transits took place in the 12th house.

btw, I have had some bad experiences with 'friends' lately too. always, always, someone trying to impose over me. Or may be I am just become conscious of it more. I felt my aggressive, shadow side emerge. How I acted in a very ruthless manner when I didn't acknowledge or give vent to the real anger which I felt towards them. I checked for Pluto transits, and i found a pluto semi-sextile sun. Now i would have normally just ignored such a 'minor' transit. but it is significant enough if it makes me look for it. So I can only imagine what Pluto CONJ Sun must be like

ok, i'll be back with more thoughts later.

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posted June 03, 2007 07:05 PM         

When you feel like that you don't want to be cheered up, you just want to feel as sad as you possibly can.

Music does help bring the emotion to the surface.

posted June 03, 2007 11:10 PM         

I grew up with a very critical, verbally abusive dad. I can't fault him though for my lack of self-esteem. I have learned that you can't give others self-confidence or self-esteem so it seems to me that what you can't give to others you can't take away from them either. It comes from within us.

I think the fault is within us, and how we react to what others say and do. It's like some said here, 1scorp and ILWL, I really liked what both of you said, you just be your own person and it's up to you whether you accept what others say to you or about you as true or not. If you know what you are like and someone else tells you what they think you are like it's pretty much up to you to either accept it as truth or dimiss it. Sometimes what others say to us is true and it shouldn't destroy our self-esteem. It should be something we examine about ourselves and we will know inwardly if there is any truth to it or not. If we find there is truth to it then the person has done us a favor and given us something to work on. I think it takes a healthy ego to be able to examine themselves like that.

I have in many of the ways expressed here by others developed a healthier self-confidence throughout my life. The key phrase that you used, 1scorp, is noteworthy. You said a "healthy ego. " That's important because a healthy ego is not egotistical. It's okay to know what you are good at and what you aren't and to know your good and bad qualities. It's okay feel good about and take pride in accomplishments or what you have. That's a healthy ego. It's even okay to know if you are pretty or handsome. We have to live with our faces so we may as well like them. It's not a healthy ego to be comparing yourself and your accomplishments with others. It's not a healthy ego to think that you are either prettier or more handsome than someone else or that you are smarter or whatever. A healthy ego feels they are at least equal to everyone else and that they, like everyone else, has a purpose for being here.