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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 10, 2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
thanks Faye. i can't even imagine what it must have felt like for you, never having gone through this experience for myself. can only make a guess at your pain, and its likely to be off by orders of magnitude.

lots and lots of hugs to you
ILWL

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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
MysticMelody Thank you for understanding, and your kind words.{{{HUG}}}
It felt strange speaking about it. I guess I needed to more than I realized.
ILWL
Thank you again. I am feeling a bit exposed here and overwhelmed by emotion. Thank you so much dear lady.{{{HUGS}}}

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Azalaksh
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posted June 10, 2007 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte ~

Love & {{{ hugs }}}

Good words, Mel

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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Azalaksh Thank You! Beautiful calming image too,{{{HUGS}}} I hope all my lost "babies" went on to find good families.
Ok, I am losing it here folks. All the love and understanding and memories.
I am going to go play with our new baby kitten now!
Later!
Love to All, even you HSC.
Love
Fayte

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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
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lotusheartone
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posted June 10, 2007 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Lots of LOve to you, Dear Lady, Fayte

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MysticMelody
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posted June 10, 2007 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message

eh, I've rewritten this post too many times, I just don't do "personal" like others do.

Here's what I would say, "I love you guys too" even though I'm not really addressing EXACTLY what you said, I feel I am addressing the sentiment, and I think everyone will accept me as I am in this moment, which I guess is what I mean and why I said it.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 10, 2007 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte, your moon is conjunct mars, - nuff said.

ILWL, your mars/merc conjunction in aqua definitely counts,
although it can be combative and stubbornly hold to false opinions,
kind of like my mars/merc in sag, except sag is mutable,
and my conjunction is sextile my moon and trine jupiter.

If you want to compare Aquarian influences:

Sun Conjunct Uranus
Venus Conjunct Uranus
Midheaven Conjunct Uranus (by 16 minutes)
Saturn Sextile Uranus
Uranus is the apex planet of a Yod
Moon in Aquarius (in harmonius aspect to mars and mercury)
The entire sign of Aquarius in my 1st house

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lotusheartone
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posted June 10, 2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Heart-Shaped Cross,

Astrology is a tool, nothing more, when the tool controls, and you only think from the Tool, you are limiting yourSelf. Your chart is to be overcome, not run your life and thoughts!

LOve to you, and ALL. ...

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 10, 2007 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
heh, HSC i give up. you missed the whole point. yet again.

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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I am with you ILWL
I just read the entire thread and no he is not hearing anyone but himself as usual.

Thanks Lotus. {{{HUG}}}

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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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lotusheartone
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posted June 10, 2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Mwah!

I LOve ALL of you, so much!

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 10, 2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
It's really like the Twilight Zone,
how you gals can't see the negativity in your words,
and you pressume to lecture me on things you are more guilty of yourselves.

Everyone who has spoken against me thinks they are more humble than me.

That's a fact.
I dare you to admit it
and I dare you to deny it.
I dare you not to ignore it.

But this is not counted for arrogance.

Instead, my conviction is taken for arrogance.

I am convinced of a spiritual matter.
You are convinced of your humility.

But I am arrogant? Right.

So, what has really happened?

I have spoke words that humbled you,
and your pride cries out in indignation.

But you don't see it.

Everyone speaking against me now is saying more aggressive and mean-spirited things than anything I have said. But you don't see it.

All I am saying is that a person who has developed their compassion to the point of feeling equal love for all beings, or anyone beginning to approach this point, will sooner adopt a child who is already here and needs a loving home, than bring another into the world. ((That is what I think. Now, I am going to tell you WHY I think it - and, no, I dont believe I am going above and beyond the call of duty.)) Such a person would feel equal love for other people's children, and, loving them as if they were one's own, would sooner adopt. This makes perfect sense. Imagine you are a mother, and there was a mix-up, and your child got sent to an orphanage. Would you have another child, or try to adopt the child you already have? Answer the question. I dare you. You would try to adopt the child, you would be heartbroken for that child's sake. Now, imagine you have developed your love to the point where it is utterly impersonal and selfless. Suddenly, every orphan in the world feels like your child, and you want to care for them just as you would want to care for your child. This is what I am talking about. I dare anyone to argue this matter with me, without letting this thread continue to degenerate.

Imagine the kind of highly evolved person I am talking about. Imagine someone as selfless as that. You do agree that is profound selflessness, don't you? Do you think you are that selfless? Do you think no one is more selfless than you? Are you in total denial? Can you not bear the thought that, in comparison with such a compassionate soul, you are indeed "selfish"?

That is arrogance, if anything is.

Please, read over your responses to me, and the responses to me from those you call allies and harbingers of love and humility. Read what they are saying to me. Try to be objective.

Fayte tells me she would be kicked off LL if she said what she wishes to say to me. That says it all, doesn't it?

I have no ill will towards any of you.
I have no desire to spew profanities at anyone.

But I'm the bad guy.

Okay.

Look, folks, I'm done here.
I'll be back to see if anyone is discussing the facts.
If not, I will not take part in this farce any longer.



HSC


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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 10, 2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Lotus.

Love to you, and everyone, as well.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 10, 2007 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
ILWL,

I missed the point?

You and fayte both tried to dismiss my thoughts on Aquarians by comparing your own Aquarian influences to mine. If it is beside the point, you and fayte got us off track, not me.

I took you two up on it,
I proved I am more Aquarian,
and now it is "beside the point".

I hear what you are saying about the shadow side.
My point was that, even the lighter side of Aqua
exhibits many of the things which you seem to reject.

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 10, 2007 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
*hysterical laughter*

*asks herself the question- how can someone with the purported IQ of a genius be so dumb?*

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lotusheartone
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posted June 10, 2007 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
we all deserve to be treated with Respect and Reverence!

Heart-Shaped Cross, I don't understand your question? Of course we would go after the child that was sent away by mistake, that child is our responsiblity, that does not mean we would not want another child that is not biologically ours, I would LOve both children equally, at this point in my Life, perhaps before now, I may have selfishly LOved my own flesh and blood more, but not now, knowing what I know! Does that make sense?

LOve to ALL. ...

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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
ILWL!
Strange isn't it?
And funny thing is the ones who usually rant the loudest about such things never would adopt any child nor even consider a child with problems or a child not of their race.
Like the white middle classed abortion protesters I have talked to, and asked, but would you adopt a black crack baby? Response usually goes like this:
"Why would I want a crackhead's little ba$tard?! Let God take care of them! Its God's punishment for her $lutting around being a Wh-re, and maybe God willing the b!tch mother will die giving birth!
Yeah.....THAT IS the attitude of too many holier than thous!


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~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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MysticMelody
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posted June 10, 2007 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
"*hysterical laughter*

*asks herself the question- how can someone with the purported IQ of a genius be so dumb?*" <-quote by ILWL

That is complete crap and you know it.

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MysticMelody
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posted June 10, 2007 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
He clearly hadn't read the entire thread and was just responding/reacting to previous angry and hurtful comments.

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goatgirl
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posted June 10, 2007 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatgirl     Edit/Delete Message
I may just completely stick my foot in my mouth. I hope not, cause I hate doing that.

Did it occur to you HSC, that these orphans incarnated where they did for a reason? Maybe one of them will change the adoption system, or perhaps make a difference in Africa regarding the AIDS epidemic, due to the experiences they had growing up in that environment. Or they might be another genius Who knows what might be.

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Where I was born, and to whom I was born, have been the catalysts for my personal growth as a being, and to become open to many truths, instead of only “one right truth”. ~ GG

Did it occur to you that the way Pixie feels about her baby, is the way that all women feel about their children? They would have a similar reaction as Pix upon reading what you wrote?

I don't entirely disagree with what your wanting to express here. Who gets to decide who's the most enlightened who get to reproduce naturally? What are the criteria for enlightenment? I just feel that there might be a better or more Aquarian if you will, solution to the unwanted children issue. maybe we could discuss that instead.

Peace.
GG

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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
He clearly hadn't read the entire thread and was just responding/reacting to previous angry and hurtful comments.
Indeed. HSC often jumps in with both feet in his mouth into things that are none of his business as he did when DC had a go at me, and he had no idea what had transpired and tried to paint me out as a trouble maker, after I wanted to let it just go, he raked it up again! I am not raking it up again but only using it to make my point.


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~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~
~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~
~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~
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fayte.m
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posted June 10, 2007 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
goatgirl

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~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~
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MysticMelody
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posted June 10, 2007 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Steve, I want you to know that I agree with everything you have said. I could feel all of your pain and frustration in your first post and it confused me for a minute, so maybe it confused others as well. I understand what you are saying and it makes perfect sense. This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine. This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine. This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine.

Let it shine
Let it shine
Let it shine

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InLoveWithLife
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posted June 10, 2007 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InLoveWithLife     Edit/Delete Message
If this is how he feels for real, then I am forced to say that what I said is not crap, Mel.
quote:
It's really like the Twilight Zone,
how you gals can't see the negativity in your words,
and you pressume to lecture me on things you are more guilty of yourselves.

He does seem to that pretty often, doesn't he? responding without reading what the other person actually said ?

Where, oh where, is the mean-spiritedness he is talking about? Could you kindly point me to it ?

Bullsh1t.

When 10 people say the same thing, my humble opinion is that one should listen. I see no evidence of that here.

And so i give up.

I know after this I enter your list of people who are full of negativity and such, people who you'd rather avoid. So be it. I have no such intention. I'd say the same thing to my best friend, if he/she acted like HSC.

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lotusheartone
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posted June 10, 2007 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
*The Brush Dance is a Yurok Indian healing ritual where being true to yourself means giving your best to help a person in need. Being true to yourself is the one and only Yurok Indian law.*

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