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MysticMelody
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posted June 10, 2007 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
This ^ is why I prefer to love many of you from a distance.


I was living in a devil town

I didn’t know it was a devil town

Oh Lord it really brings me down

About the devil town

All my friends were vampires

Didn’t know they were vampires

Turns out I was a vampire myself

In the devil town


All my friends were vampires

Didn’t know they were vampires

Turns out I was a vampire myself

In the devil town

I was living in a devil town

I didn’t know it was a devil town

Oh Lord it really brings me down

about the devil town

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted June 10, 2007 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Mel.

I'm actually pretty chilled out right now.
(I'm watching "Rob Roy". Good movie.)

I know what I know, and my experience at this point is just one of amusement and amazement at the responses I am seeing. It's a little trippy. I'm rarely surprised by anything, and this has been something of a rare treat. I guess I'm becoming a bit less idealistic, a bit more realistic. I'm learning to lower my expectations of people. But, hey, maybe someone will surprise me again and say something real. You never know. Keep the faith, I guess.

Love ya,
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posted June 10, 2007 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
MISSION STATEMENT OF THE YUROK TRIBE

The mission of the Yurok Tribe is to exercise the aboriginal and sovereign rights of the Yurok People to continue forever our Tribal traditions of self-governance, cultural and spiritual preservation, stewardship of Yurok lands, waters and other natural endowments, balanced social and economic development, peace and reciprocity, and respect for the dignity and individual rights of all persons living within the jurisdiction of the Yurok Tribe, while honoring our Creator, our ancestors and our descendants.

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posted June 10, 2007 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
NOTE: Boldings in quote from HSC are my boldings to set off the points.
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I know what I know, and my experience at this point is just one of amusement and amazement at the responses I am seeing. It's a little trippy. I'm rarely surprised by anything, and this has been something of a rare treat. I guess I'm becoming a bit less idealistic, a bit more realistic. I'm learning to lower my expectations of people. But, hey, maybe someone will surprise me again and say something real. You never know. Keep the faith, I guess.
Well there you have it folks! HSC finds this all:
amusement
=He does this to stir folks up for bored amusement and entertainment. Especially I suspect while tripping.
and this has been something of a rare treat.
=Again such great fun to demean folks unjustly and act all messianic and superior and stir them up gets him off.
I'm learning to lower my expectations of people.
=It appears we have mostly all been insulted and again he is superior and we are mindless soulless morons to him barely worth posting to, except for his amusement.
maybe someone will surprise me again and say something real.
There again, nothing most of us say unless it is worship and adoration means anything to him. All our heartfelt tellings and feelings on things is just trash worthless nothings to him. In his opinion we have said nothing real or worth his respect. He knows all as he said and that is that. All bow down and worship the Great all seeing all knowing HSC! Hang onto his every word(many which are simply plagiarizations he uses to appear all wise) and do not think for yourself or disagree with him. And curtsy and flirt, and be sure you are pretty and young because when he finds out otherwise.....

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posted June 10, 2007 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Heart-Shaped Cross,

Is that the way you feel about us?

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posted June 10, 2007 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus I really like the stuff about the
THE YUROK TRIBE.
I will read up on them! Thanks for the information!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah HSC...
quote:
I'm actually pretty chilled out right now.
Another example of how little you give a flying fig about anything anyone else says unless you are being worshipped.
You deem yourself some kind of superior being all wise and fully enlightened and we are stupid monkeys to you. To be pitied or spat upon depending on your mood. You can twist and spin all the ways you want but your words are clear on that. You act as if we are not even the same species as you.

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posted June 10, 2007 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
hehe, you know fayte, it is on the back of my Rumi dayplanner, that I got for Christmas...

here's the link I found their statement from, scroll down, and click on The Yurok Tribe!
www.native-languages.org/yurok_culture.htm

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posted June 10, 2007 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you muchly Lotus!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
You're Welcome, Fayte!

The picture is so beautiful!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Very beautiful!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, Thanks Fayte! hehe, I want to be there! LOL

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posted June 10, 2007 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
The beach and sandbar and forest are awesome! Can you imagine how lovely the air must smell like there? The water looks clean too!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Like Heaven on Earth, that's what I think!

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posted June 10, 2007 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I just watched that old movie "Silent Running" where all the wildlife left on earth and forests are on space stations and the fools on Earth want to blow them up because they do not see nature as worth anything anymore. I always cry during that movie.
Earth still has such places of paradiasical splendor! But I fear such scenarios as in that movie could happen.

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posted June 10, 2007 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
ILWL,

"Where, oh where, is the mean-spiritedness he is talking about? Could you kindly point me to it? Bullsh1t."

"Bullsh1t," being an expletive, is negative, for one.

But let's see if we can find a few more.

At first, I was thinking I might do an experiment and just say to you the things you are saying to me, then, when you bug out, I can post the quotes that i was paraphrasing. But thats lame. Here's a simple list of things you said that are either negative, fallacious, accusatory, or merely identical to the things you are so angry with me for having said to you:

"side note to HSC - tht's an intelligent and i guess 'compassionate' choice from my point of view, but i'd be a fool if i claimed that its the 'only' one"

You called me a "fool". Did I do something worse than this to you?

"a person who has pretensions of being compassion and wisdom embodied"

This is a lie. I am very well aware of my place in the spiritual hierarchies.
I have spoken an ideal, but I never claimed to embody it in any way.
I am an ant compared to some, and I think about that frequently.

"clearly it would be wasted on you. I am waiting for the day when you will wake up."

Do you need me to explain how this is negative?

"you sound like my english teacher, like you are grading an essay i just wrote.
why do YOU have to sound like that? can't help it, can you?"

This, after i complimented your post, and objected only to the snide "ps."
Give me a break, seriously. I didnt mean to be patronizing.

"someone as stubborn and arrogant and BLIND as you."

Three in a row. Nice caps, too.

"Hail HSC ! I bow down before thee with awe and reverance. Thanks for setting those high standards. I was so lost without you."

Well, excuuuse me. I was only trying to help. Say, why don't you go post this on one of Solane Star's threads that she is always posting to remind us of high spirtual ideals? You must imagine that she assumes you are lost without her guidance, too, right?

"Pride goes before a fall..... And the countdown has begun."

This was posted without any explaination, although you later claimed that you were not really taking pleasure in the thought of seeing me fall, despite the wicked sense of humor you exhibit here.

"i wudn't call that a 'fall', but I am pretty sure that's how it would seem to you."

Because you see things so much clearer than me, right? I understand.

"I only see self love in your posts,
for all your talk about higher love."

In other words, everything I say about higher love and love for all mankind, you dismiss as not belonging to who I am. Can you only see what is negative, to the point where you even distort positive things, and see them as negative? For instance, loving oneself.


"so dumb"

Right on.


"One has to be forever vigilant to not let these things creep into one's thoughts and then words. I wonder if you ever do that? I wonder if you ever sit back and think about what you said....whether it was too presumptuous? if someone comes and tells me i sound arrogant, I'd not reply with 'i am convinced of my beliefs hence it is more justified than you'. I'd take notice. I'd probably go back and reread everything I had said to that person. and analyze whether i really meant it or there was some other subconscious motive operating, unknown to me."

As a matter of fact, when you said I was "so dumb" I went back and reread my last three posts scrupulously, looking for anything I might have said that was "dumb". I question myself so much, it is almost a way of life for me. One part of the description of people with their South Node in Pisces reads: "[This person has learned to question his motives so thoroughly in past lives that he needs to start trusting himself more and speaking his truth.]" I kid you not. That's how I know what I know. Not because I jump at the chance to express an idea, the moment it enters my brain, but, because I analyze and re-analyze my ideas (Saturn in Virgo, in the obsessive 8th house, sextile Sun in Scorpio; in case you need reminding, Scorpio is THE sign associated with questioning motives, just as Aries and Gemini are associated with not questioning motives), and refine them until I truly "know what I think". Maybe it sounds to you like I am just praising myself right now, but I'm just answering your question.

"a need to be wise all the time, a fear that s/he won't be loved unless s/he sounds all wise and philosophical, that's when you get the 'know it all's'."

Sounds like me, right? I mean, besides what you see as condescention, I speak in a way that reminds you of how wise people and philosophers talk. I MUST be doing it for appearances, right? What other explanation could there be? Surely it is not natural and pleasurable for me to speak that way, surely it does not reflect my personal tastes and the order of my thoughts. It must be fear, right? And here I am, claiming to know one or two things. I must be a know-it-all. Well done.

"why are you so bent upon proving yourself to us here? Is it love, or is it fear?"

It is both. I am human.
But I believe it is mostly love.
Love of truth, and love of mankind.


"all the quotes from the greats are meant to inspire us. not to justify ourselves. if you need to validate everything you say by quoting someone else, think again."

I am not justifying or validating. I do not need to do that. I am explaining. There is a difference. Besides, you are the one who said you would give my words more weight if I had actually "done something". You were not receptive to my words. I gave you the words of people who had "done something", words expressing sentiments identical to my own.

Why do you see so many phantoms? Try to imagine a possible motive which is not malicious, fearful, foolish, or arrogant. Try to imagine another reason why someone might speak and quote as I do. I've tried to give you a few of them. ILWL, if you are only looking to see what is crooked, you will make everything crooked.

"besides, you overdo it."

That is your opinion. I disagree. And I think its really a matter of taste, as are most of your objections. I do not think it is overdoing it if about 5% of the things I post are the words of geniuses and saints, and not my own. I think it is honoring both wisdom and the memory of the wise.

"why?? why do u have to compare, for whatever reason?"

In order to learn what is the highest and best.
To my mind, that is a perfectly good motive.
In fact, I'd venture to say it is a great one.

"aqua doesn't need to/have to stand out. they stand out just because they are who they are"

You're telling me.
What makes you think I am trying?
Or that I need to do anything other than be myself?

"btw as an aqua moon, why do u even have to conform to the descriptions of aqua? ever thought about that?"

I'm not sure what you are asking me. I'm more than an Aqua Moon. I listed other placements even more Aquarian than my moon. Having Sun/Venus/MC all closely conjunct Uranus makes me more Aquarian than most Aquarians, even without the Moon, and the Interception in the 1st house, both of which are major Aquarian influences. Oh, and I forgot, my Sun and Moon are also parallel Uranus. According to medieval astrologers, when two planets are both conjunct AND parallel (like my Sun and Uranus), there is no possible stronger influence than that.

BTW, ILWL, when you quote me in your posts, do me a favor and do not italicize or bold anything that i did not italicize and bold, okay? If you are going to do that, please say "italics mine", or "bold mine", or something. Just to be fair. Thanks.

Peace out.

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posted June 10, 2007 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Gosh, Fayte! I have not seen that movie, I hope we can re-verse, the damage we have done to our planet

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posted June 10, 2007 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I will find a link for you Lotus! Yeah I hope so too.


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posted June 10, 2007 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Fayte! I would very much appreciate that!

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posted June 10, 2007 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
BTW, ILWL, when you quote me in your posts, do me a favor and do not italicize or bold anything that i did not italicize and bold, okay? If you are going to do that, please say "italics mine", or "bold mine", or something. Just to be fair.
I bolded not ILWL.
And ILWL is one of the gentlest most caring souls of several dear ones I have met! She is a real treasure and pleasure to know!

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posted June 10, 2007 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Lotus!
You can still get the movie from Amazon! http://www.amazon.com/Silent-Running-Bruce-Dern/dp/B000063UR1
Or try interlibrary loan.
And here are a few links! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067756/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Running

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posted June 10, 2007 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
fayte,

Speaking of commenting on a thread when you dont know what you are talking about... Don't be so quick to roll your eyes, fayte. ILWL did bold a word of mine on the 1st page of this thread when she quoted me, which I did not bold. It is the word "only". If you are guilty of it too, the request goes for you, as well.

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posted June 10, 2007 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
She bolded one word?
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fayte. ILWL did bold a word of mine on the 1st page of this thread when she quoted me, which I did not bold. It is the word "only". If you are guilty of it too, the request goes for you, as well.
Man talk about making mountains out of molehills! You still said it whether bolded or not! And above I just bolded your words "a word" and "It is the word "only". Guilty? So bolding is now a crime to be guilty of? Fascinating!
I bolded many and BTW, I did put in a disclaimer. Why are you so upset with her?

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posted June 10, 2007 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks very much, for the links, Fayte!

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posted June 10, 2007 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
You are welcome Lotus It has violence but if you see it,
it will make sense. The "Gardener" is the only human being left who cares.

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