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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted January 31, 2008 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
One of the things I like about the Toltec tradition is the Toltec
divided the universe into the knowable and the unknowable with the
suggestion you not waste your time trying to know the unknowable.
The nature of God is part of the unknowable, knowing how to connect
with the energy of creation on a regular basis is easily within our
grasp. We have a tendency to spend the majority of our time
focusing on things we can't change and very little time focusing on
what we can change.

You can't really change the world but you can change the way you
feel about the world. Moment by moment you are either adding love
to the world or judgment and fear. Which do you suppose is more
useful? Love or fear? Acceptance or judgment?

There is a wonderful prayer:

God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I can not change
The power to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference


Susan Gregg

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Solane Star
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From: Ontario, Canada
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posted January 31, 2008 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely!!!

Thanks!!!

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SattvicMoon
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posted January 31, 2008 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
You can't really change the world but you can change the way you
feel about the world. Moment by moment you are either adding love
to the world or judgment and fear. Which do you suppose is more
useful? Love or fear? Acceptance or judgment?

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Solane Star
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005

posted January 31, 2008 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
You can't really change the world but you can change the way you
feel about the world. Moment by moment you are either adding love
to the world or judgment and fear. Which do you suppose is more
useful? Love or fear? Acceptance or judgment?

I CHOOSE LOVE 2 !!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMOMgQCRAqM&feature=related

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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004

posted February 01, 2008 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Nice video, Star

Contains some very powerful images. Like the song a lot too.

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juniperb
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posted February 01, 2008 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely Mirandee !

In Islam there are two words for the Known and the Unknown.

Tanzih - the unknowable, transcendent God/Being

Tashbih - the manifested, imminate, personal God/Being

In the Perfect Human (Jesus), there is a perfect experience of BOTH realities at the same time. One is not give a preference over the other. They are balanced and integrated.

God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I can not change
The power to change the things I can
And the wisdom to know the difference


Yes indeed. It saves a lot of suffering and gives one the power to make a constructive difference.


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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

- George Eliot

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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted February 01, 2008 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
In Islam there are two words for the Known and the Unknown.

Tanzih - the unknowable, transcendent God/Being

Tashbih - the manifested, imminate, personal God/Being

In the Perfect Human (Jesus), there is a perfect experience of BOTH realities at the same time. One is not give a preference over the other. They are balanced and integrated.


Thanks, Juni and I do agree that in the person of Jesus exists both realities in perfect balance and intergration.

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