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posted March 03, 2008 10:33 AM         

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can we all wake up now from this nightmare and kiss everyone? be happy and keep on sharing about each other experience, and that include everyone?

ok can we have peace between everyone now?

so maybe LTT will stay?

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posted March 03, 2008 10:34 AM         

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As surely as the moon changes, as symbolized in aspects of the maid/ mother and crone of the goddess, as surely as this, we can't escape from being human.

We can't escape from our shadow selves.

I hope that by venting my concerns some good will come, but results could be either good or bad.

If I have judged wrongly, then let it be a lesson to those who are themselves SO QUICK to judge.

"The world is a looking glass and gives back to every man the reflection of his own face."

- William Makepeace Thackeray

I feel so weary of it all now.

I feel tired of being human, tired of separation in the nature of our world.

Where is the light?

To the Moon

Art thou pale for weariness
Of climbing heaven, and gazing on the earth,
Wandering companionless
Among the stars that have a different birth,—
And ever-changing, like a joyless eye
That finds no object worth its constancy?

-- Percy Bysshe Shelley

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posted March 03, 2008 10:42 AM         

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Randall, I also believe you have been too lenient in the past. I hope you will now establish firm footing on middle ground. Obviously, this is your domain and you are, in a real sense, King. Carrying the analogy further, a King may be kind and fair, quietly ensuring the happiness of his people and the order of his realm. Or he may become a tyrant staring down peasants and pitchforks. Good luck with that, sir. I don't envy you.

Generally, I don't feel comfortable with specifics but .... I've found Thor's recent behavior shameful. It's unbecoming a LL moderator and I'm surprised you've allowed it. Also, I don't believe I'm the only one confused by Bibi's incessent spamming. This would appear to be a double standard. Please explain.

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posted March 03, 2008 10:53 AM         

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posted March 03, 2008 11:24 AM         

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I don't have to explain. I do have an explanation; however, I'm tired of being put on the defensive. Love it or leave it. The past is in the past.

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posted March 03, 2008 11:28 AM         

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>>>I've found Thor's recent behavior shameful. It's unbecoming a LL moderator and I'm surprised you've allowed it.

Not that I wish to be sneaky on Randall's affairs but I had the same thoughts.

Mirandee led a great example by preaching "Do as I say and I do as I say ".
Or whatever the saying goes. But I think she was wrong to have left. I would have respected her most if she stayed on as a knowflake and then left eventually. Or she would have been banned anyways if she walked around in Lindaland with her bitterness. Her leaving is another form of ego. I don't think it will be right to say which ego is better.

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posted March 03, 2008 11:32 AM         

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Thats only an opinion Mannu. It would be better if we ask the people concerned before speaking for them- I just thought I'd point this out, no hard feelings.

If people would rather leave an atmosphere which they find undesirable, who are we to judge their reasons for it?

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posted March 03, 2008 11:34 AM         

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Well, I could say yours is an opinion too. How much do you know whats going on here on a day to day basis?

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posted March 03, 2008 11:44 AM         

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At least as much as you.

It would nice to be all-seeing and omnipresent though.

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posted March 03, 2008 11:55 AM         

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For what? To give a new twist to the soap or to shut the soap box or to keep it going

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posted March 03, 2008 12:17 PM         

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In case anyone wonders why I brought stuff up again from the recent past, well, it was Randall's comment about picking some "weeds" on the deleted thread- because it made me so ANGRY in the light of everything that's happened. These things concern other people too- which have been discussed on other threads. this isn't about me, but I did use this example to illustrate.

I don't believe in disrespecting one's host, but equally I do feel that one ought to feel able to be open enough to discuss things and aim to be fair.

Everyone makes mistakes, but we have to be able to admit them first in order to move on.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:22 PM         

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Would you have brought this up at CE? No? I didn't think so. Why? Because you respect CE. You have no respect for Lindaland. And if you have no respect for us, why are you still here? To be a foot soldier for those who control you? Wake up. Or stay asleep. Your choice. But please stop disrespecting us. Thank you.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:23 PM         

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Yes, if I was in a similar situation there I would, but so far I have been here more so I've not had much time to spend there.

Also, you are wrong in judging who I do and don't respect.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:26 PM         

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I disagree with anyone showing disrespect towards you Randall, but equally, they need to be able to talk honestly.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:35 PM         

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LTT, I deleted your boodbye string, because it had spiralled into yet another negative session, and you really haven't said goodbye at all. Once again, please, show us the same respect you would CE, or...if you don't feel we have earned your respect...by all means move on. We are trying to rebuild here, not tear down. Onward and upward!

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posted March 03, 2008 12:36 PM         

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"By their fruits ye shall know them." It's clear who you respect and who you don't.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:37 PM         

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When one thinks about what LL is to them, and who LL represents I don't think a singular name comes to mind, so I believe it will always be viewed as unjust that all the power is in one person's hands, especially when there's an appearance of bias from that person.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:37 PM         

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You really seem to have an issue with Conscious Evolution. It isn't about that.

It's about resolving issues here.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:39 PM         

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Why can't you see Randall, that if I didn't care about this site, I wouldn't have come back to talk about it over?

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posted March 03, 2008 12:40 PM         

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I do think it's great that the contention has been kept isolated to this one string (having deleted a couple of others). I want to thank everyone for not letting it spill into the other Forums. Onward and upward!

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posted March 03, 2008 12:42 PM         

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posted March 03, 2008 12:46 PM         

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LTT, I think you're here not because you care about the site, but because of your Ego. And I have no problem with CE at all. My only problem is with a few of the Love and Lighters from there coming over here to sling their poop. Keep your poop in your own back yard, please. AG, there is bias in every aspect of Life. As there is criticism when decisions have to be made. This string will be closed soon, so let's all say our Peace. I take it no one wishes yet to leave? Or at least not in this public fashion?

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posted March 03, 2008 12:49 PM         

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posted March 03, 2008 12:51 PM         

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I agree, there is bias. I would simply state that the appearance of bias can be managed in order to avoid situations like this.

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posted March 03, 2008 12:52 PM         

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You could have been a part of the solution, but you stepped down. So, leave the Administration of Lindaland to me and my Mods. Thanks.

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