posted July 15, 2008 01:37 AM         

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Oh God, IZO, did i offend you?!?!?! Please, i am so so so sorry. I am. Please, i didn't mean to put words into your mouth, or make you sound heartless, or fickle. I'm sorry. Please forgive me.

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No need for an apology. You didn't offend me. That line you wrote previously triggered something in me, that was similar, in a way, but you are right, our emotional involvement with these actors is slightly different.

It's not that they're not people to me, because they're obviously not aliens LOL (though I might be wrong about this one ). It's just that I take them for artists making art, for my pleasure (and everyone else's), hopefully moving something inside me, if they're any good. I can apreciate them for whatever they have to give to our collective consciousness, whether it be an extreme theatrical skill, beauty, originality or the like. But at the end of the day, I am just an observer, who, although can relate to some (sometimes too passionately), eventually remains detached.

I don't consider myself neither heartless, nor fickle for this. It's just my personal reaction to the movie world. It might be different than yours or other people, but that's alright. No need for any of us to apologize. I can respect our differences.

posted July 15, 2008 05:43 AM         

so intrigued that you listed denis leary. i love this guy. i can't say he's made an impact on me in the movies that i've seen him in but in terms of stand-up comedy - oh, man - he's genius. i can laugh out loud until it aches.

totally agree with you re: jeremy irons and his acting - scene stealer yes.

for a long time i wondered why sean penn wasn't getting the acclaim that he should as an actor but his personal life and antics therein shrouded that and i'm glad that his brilliance is shining and acknowledged now. and yes, jeremy irons has a - there are no words for that voice - it is haunting and it is just........................ something else.

umm, ralph fiennes - great actor? good actor - yes. perfect! - no. ummmm......... i did really like the end of the affair - and did like his character and performance. honestly, that is the most memorable performance by him for me. i know i've seen him in other movies but i just can't name them or recall his performances or roles in them.

sir ian mckellen - i have one word to describe his acting - "sublime".

btw - i didn't say i like vincent d'onofrio - i was just commenting on his "bigness". that's all. but if we are talking about great actors - he is definitely on the list. he's outstanding. and another that uses his voice brilliantly.

just not a johnny depp fan but glad he gets recognition for what he gives to his roles - and i love that he's fearless.

i'm a big kevin spacey fan.

oh, jennifer connolly - she is just so so brilliant. love her husband too. he's got a lovely voice and tones.

emma thompson - oh, she's just amazing - really - everything she does is brilliant - outstanding. perfect. she's the perfect actress.

i'd never seen kate winslet in anything before until i saw "the holiday" and i sat there during every scene with her with my jaw hitting the ground and throughout the whole movie just saying "she is so good" - i had to watch it again and again - she's just brilliant.

posted July 15, 2008 07:19 AM         

you post a shameful pic of kiefer (like i haven't seen them already!) and you fill force me to do something i really don't want to do.......

three words, sweetheart

"maid in manhattan"

posted July 15, 2008 07:37 AM         

Sun, Venus, Mars conjunct in Scorpio (all conjunct my Uranus. lol)
Moon in Aries

All that darkness, intensity and passion is just leaking out of him and he can`t do anything about it.

posted July 15, 2008 07:47 AM         

strange synastry with joaquin.

his moon is precise conjunct my chiron
my mercury conjunct his chiron

eros conjunct eros

his eros conjunct my karma and sun

his valentine conjunct my aphrodite

his mars and uranus conjunct my adonis

his aphrodite and anteros conjunct my pluto

there's some really serious placements there - heavy. well, that wouldn't be a fun, laugh a minute relationship, woud it? nothing light at all there.

EDIT

posted July 15, 2008 07:50 AM         

or matthew mcconnaghey (forgive spelling)

posted July 15, 2008 07:56 AM         

that pic of hayden - he still looks boyish - a little bit of facial fluff does not maketh a man.

but the brow furrows make him look a little older and therefore, a little more of a man than a boy.

posted July 15, 2008 07:59 AM         

oh, my - orlando!

posted July 15, 2008 08:01 AM         

Leo is different though. I DETESTED that he did Titanic. But I think he is a really good actor. No, change that to "amazing", if he puts the effort into it.
How he played against Robert De Niro in "This boy`s life" - woah that was just STRONG. And how old was he? 15, 16, 17?

He was outstanding in "What`s eating Gilbert Grape?". I have a brother who is mentally handicapped, and I know a lot of his friends, so yes, Leo did an amazing job there.

But I only like him from a strict professional point of view. Not personally. Again someone who doesn`t get my interest.
He`s got Sun, Venus and Mars in Scorpio, Moon in Libra, Mercury in Libra and ASC probably in Libra or end of virgo.

I donīt really know what is lacking there, but something IS.

And MC - MAJOR disinterest on my part. Even more disinterested than in Rafe. (This one was for you, Meta.) LOL

posted July 15, 2008 08:09 AM         

agreed about leo too. i think he's going to be one of the greats actually. he is such a fine actor. but not into him.

something about him makes me think of river phoenix. i think it's the potential - that river was going to be outstanding too had more time here.

posted July 15, 2008 08:11 AM         

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posted July 15, 2008 08:19 AM         

i just an astrotheme search for males with aries sun, taurus venus and aries mercury because i thought that would be a good match for me. this is what i got:

marlon brando
hayden christensen
christopher walken
james franco
warren beatty
zach braff

posted July 15, 2008 08:26 AM         

Hmm interesting dark and deep vs. boyish and bo---eutiful. Did you think I would write boring?
Not me, I like boyish myself, but I just LIKE boyish, nothing more.

BTW I did a report on ADZE for you know who and me. Just quoting some of the interpretations. Skip them, if you`re bored.

Composite:
The powers of attraction that drew the two of you together are very strong. "For better or worse" describes the two of you.

Knowing each other could be a most disturbing, irritating and stimulating experience
Somehow, the two of you could be in a relationship that is radically different and socially unconventional

Feelings and sentiments run high. It is not easy for you to understand the true nature of this relationship. Perhaps it's more spiritual than physical

There is strong attraction here

Don't be surprised to find yourselves transformed by the extreme passions, pleasures and experiences you share. This is anything but a casual relationship and cannot be taken lightly. You two will dredge up deep emotions in each other.

Anything but status-quo, this relationship has a strong, unconventional tone. Unexpected, uncommon and unpredictable turns of events will guarantee that the two of you will be anything but bored with each other. If you're looking for routine and stability, look elsewhere.
#

Before this relationship can work, there are serious obstacles to be overcome

This relationship will be marked by powerful transformations and strong physical drives

SYNASTRYWISE

At heart, you are two of a kind. Sometimes you feel like soul mates; other times, you just leave each other confused.

This relationship features harmony, diversity and a touch of obsession. It is anything but typical.
You two can turn each other on in rather original, non-conforming ways. Stuart can enhance the mystery and bring out the power of Kerstin. As a couple, you have your share of weird coincidences and auspicious encounters.

Stuart knows how to please Kerstin. Stuart can sway Kerstin with natural charm and style and maybe even a song. Stuart's genuine respect and compliments are effective and can have miraculous effects on Kerstin. To Stuart, Kerstin may be social, warm-hearted and affectionate

This relationship has some strong physical attributes. It can be hot-blooded, vigorous, vital, and competitive. Stuart can energize and motivate Kerstin. Kerstin might find Stuart to be a might impulsive, rash, and pugnacious. There's some volatile and explosive energy here.

Daring action and healthy sexual appetites can drive you two fast and far. Stuart can literally spur Kerstin to reach new levels of stimulation. Kerstin may find Stuart to be a bit of a pain.

Like a bolt out of the blue, there is something brilliant, unexpected and original about this relationship. Individual bursts of initiative could spice your life together like hot pepper
Marriage is challenging, to say the least. Stuart could feel that Kerstin is an eccentric. In fact, Stuart could also be quite a "character." Before you become lovers, see if you are friends. This could become an unusual relationships between two outstanding characters. It could start fast and turn wild.

There is a deep connection here
In this relationship, physical as well as psychological desires are strong.
This relationship is volcanic. Kerstin may need to "compromise". Together you can take up a cause. You can right some wrongs. You can fight some injustices. You can change yourselves and the environment. If anybody can begin again and restructure for change, it is you two.
(Yeah, let`s rule the world! )

posted July 15, 2008 08:35 AM         

You two feel comfortable together. In this relationship, non- verbal communication is strong. Kerstin and Stuart are often empathetic to each other

You certainly arouse strong feelings and stir up a bevy of emotions in one another. The emotional conflict between Kerstin and Stuart is sure to be hot. Quite a bit of energy is also roused between you

This relationship includes its share of mood swings, things imagined and a genuine interest in the spiritual world. The two of you could be made to share romance, make-believe and fantasies
The two of you could share a spiritual vision. You could show up in each other's dreams. Stuart could be drawn by Kerstin's aura and mystique

This relationship has its share of sympathy, compassion and secrets. Stuart and Kerstin can form a close, psychic link, perhaps sensing each other's feelings and moods.

Feelings between Kerstin and Stuart run hot and cold. Emotions are polarized. This is a classic case of opposites attract. You might turn each other on and yet not really get along. Kerstin may find Stuart to be rash and abrupt. Stuart may find Kerstin to be unmotivated. A very physical dynamic wants to play out in this relationship. It might not last forever, but it can be a hot time.

The two of you are very different and yet inhibitions are quickly overcome when you're together. Call it what you want: wild and crazy energy, strong attraction and excitement or party time. You two are more wired than stable. Sparks will fly. Looks like love at first sight

There's something very deep going on here. Intense attraction is indicated. Romantic and physical energies are in effect. This is not a casual, superficial or shallow relationship. Issues around jealousy and possessiveness are also possible, so you had both better be sure of your intentions. The power of your love together can have a tremendous transforming effect.

Stuart feels genuine affection for Kerstin, and the feeling is mutual. You two can enjoy each other's company, have fun and share pleasures together. Romance is indicated

There's something very deep going on here. Intense attraction is indicated. Romantic and physical energies are in effect. This is not a casual, superficial or shallow relationship. Issues around jealousy and possessiveness are also possible, so you had both better be sure of your intentions. The power of your love together can have a tremendous transforming effect.

Robust, magnetic appeal draws Kerstin and Stuart together. Passion and compassion fuse. The force of fantasy is strongly at work/play here. You two can share a strange openness. Quick inspiration, potent psychic vibrations, and stimulating spirits give this relationship a major romantic lift

Deep commitment to each other will result in increased confidence, zeal and courage. Physical and psychological energies intertwine here. Vigorously intense love play and power plays will combine when Kerstin and Stuart get together. Very powerful and passionate energies will transform the two of you. When the chemistry is just right, your love for each other is superhuman and unstoppable.

There is a robust physical side to this relationship. There's something hot-blooded, vigorous, vital, energetic and competitive to your alliance. Learn to deal with rash, impulsive and pugnacious energy.

posted July 15, 2008 08:39 AM         

i love the adze venus report. that one is brilliant! wowow!

most of that is brilliant. i like that he'll find you eccentric and that he may be a bit of a character himself. lol!

i love the genuine affection stuff and all the something deep going on here. perfect.

posted July 15, 2008 08:52 AM         

But I know that I immensely ADORE his political attitude,t hat he is making films about it, that he speaks his mind so loud and clearly, that anyone will hear. It just gets that fiery glint in my eyes. I wished I was like that. SO straightforward WITHOUT actually hurting anyone.
He is a lot more demanding when it comes to his philosophical views than I am.
But deep inside I feel such a profound resonance to what he sais, how he sais it. Something that makes me want to say: Yes, let`s go change the world for the better. And if it will be the last thing we try to do.

Some of the zeal, that i feel inside, but don`t really express outwardly.

I don`t know about his taste in music (except that he thinks most of it nowadays is crap, but sometimes there are gems shining through, which is exactly what I think).

And he liked his film "Head in the clouds" which is just one BRILLIANT and SAD and DEEP piece of work. Not as superficial as it looks on the surface, quite the opposite. Stunning iconography or how it is called.

I am in awe before his ability to really let himself fall in the darkest characters. No he didn`T only play Lestat. HE played a much much deeper and darker and more vicious character.
Victor KElly in "Resurrection man". KElly was an Irish Loyalist, someone who was killing just for fun, or I don`t know I think he just killed to kill.
And most cruelly.
I hate such films. I hate such cruelty. Actually I only watched that film once, and it made me want to throw up.
But it is a great film. If you can skip through the cruel passages it is a real amazhing piece of work.
And STuart was just so dark and vicious and real evil, and not the romanticized version of it like in Lestat. (And I am VERY ashamed to say that he still turned me on a lot. lol).
I would never have dared to go THAT deep into a character. I would have been afraid, I might never surface again.
HE said himself that this character haunted him for weeks, even months afterwards, and that sometimes, after he said or did something, friends would say: "Oh that ****** is still around."

So, yes I think we are VAST different. He`s not half as calm and inhibited as I am.
And yet it seems he has a strong vulnerability too, an ability to love someone (at least if you believe Charlize`s gushing about him), a depth,w hich leads into the darkest corners of the soul but also into the bright and gentle ones.

Oh my I think I got carried away a little bit. Even without knowing him he challenges me to "come out of my shell". Or how he said so pointedly as LEstat: "come out, come out, whereever you are." lol

EDIT:

Or something he said. He actually said that he was glad for "George Bush". Now everone is entitled to their political opinion, and mine is definitely I am NOT glad for Bush.
And when I read that sentence I could feel my blood beginning to boil.
And the next sentence he sais is something like: "AFter all Bush managed to `politicize' a lot of people, made them interested in the subject again."
And I could feel my anger just disappear. with the Surprising realization of He is right.
Noone ever criticised, I mean, really thought about American presidents or politics before, not publicly at least. This only changed with the beginning of the Bush-era.

I still don`t know what his particular view on Bush is, but I strongly assume, he`s more democrat than republican. lol

I don`t know, I thought that was a VERY clever way to transport a message.
And he challenged me to think again.

DD

posted July 15, 2008 08:59 AM         

funny that you mention resurrection man. actually, funny that this happened at all actually. i was in the video shop yesterday and i just walked over and randomly picked up a movie and turned it over and it was resurrection man. so i brought it home but reading the back cover tonight i said to myself that i didn't think it's my kind of thing and that i probably won't watch it. interesting. it doesn't sound like something i would want to watch - at all. but i'm curious about his acting - you have tweaked my interest. i have never seen him in a movie - that i'm aware of anyway. i wanted to see him as your beloved lestat but i couldn't find it. i think i'll wait for that one instead.