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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 08:20 AM
Yes, I think your explanation of my feelings concerning the dream fit perfectly. I`m feeling better right now. It`s just that I have to accept that there IS actually a connection, even if it might only exist in my subconsciousness. Regarding the asteroids, I am just trying out a system looking at following points / asteroids:
for closeness / caring / intimacy: Moon Ceres Juno IC - I`m not sure Juno really fits there, but she is about marriage and commitment, so definitely a part of intimacy for romantic love: Venus, Amor, Valentine, DC
for (sexual) chemistry: Mars, Eros, Anteros, AC I would also look at following "couples": Isis - Osiris (soulmates) Siva - Kaali (soulmates, but with a more erotic emphasis, as Kaali represents tantric sex I believe) Amor - Psyche (the Roman soulmates, but in a more platonic sense) Eros - Psyche (Roman soulmates, in a more erotic sense) Adonis - Aphrodite (for irresistible attraction and infatuation) Adonis - Venus (adoration and infatuation, even though maybe not as URGENT as Aphrodite; Aphrodite seems to represent more urgent desires than Venus) Mars - Aphrodite (like a form of Mars-Venus, with a slightly more intense desire)
So far my thoughts on this.
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Oh I almost forgot: for karmic connections: NN, Karma, Destinn, Vertex (I thought it was rather "beautiful" to have in each area one planet, one angle and two asteroids, it looks so symmetrical somehow,e ven though technically speaking NN is not a planet I know. )
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 18, 2008 08:42 AM
ddwow! thank you for listing those. that is so brilliant and i am so grateful. yes, north node is not a planet - but it is such a vital placement. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 18, 2008 08:44 AM
ddwith the connection thing - sometimes even when we meet someone face to face - the connection is one sided - so whether you relate that back to someone famous that you intuit or feel a connection to or to someone you have met in person i suppose is irrelevant in the sense that it's all about you and your learning and growth. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 09:14 AM
I have done this analysis or listing for the synastry with Patrick and limited myself only to conjunctions and oppositions (and will keep the trines in the back of my head) within 3°. CARING:
his Moon conjunct my Sun his Moon opposite my DrCeres his dr MOon opposite my Dr Pluto his dr Moon conjunct my DR IC his Ceres opposite my Pluto his Ceres conjunct my IC his Ceres opposite my DR Karma his dr Ceres conjunct my Dr Saturn his Juno conjunct my dr IC his Juno opposite my dr Pluto his dr Juno conjunct my Psyche his IC conjunct my dr Ceres his dr IC conjunct my dr Pluto his dr IC conjunct my dr MC 14 aspects my dr Moon opposite his dr Chiron
my Ceres opposite his Mars my Ceres opposite his Amor my Ceres conjunct his Eros my dr Ceres opposite his Sun my dr Ceres opposite his Moon my dr Ceres conjunct his IC my IC conjunct his dr Amor my IC conjunct his dr Ceres my dr IC conjunct his Juno my dr IC conjunct his dr Sun my dr IC conjunct his dr Moon my dr IC conjunct his dr MC 13 aspects - how nicely balanced
for romantic potential: his Venus conjunct my dr Pluto his Venus conjunct my dr MC his Venus opposite my Destinn his dr Venus opposite my Psyche his Amor opposite my Ceres his Amor conjunct my dr Anteros his dr Amor opposite my PLuto his dr Amor conjunct my IC his dr Amor opposite my dr Karma his Valentine conjunct my Anteros his dr Valentine conjunct my Karma
his DC conjunct my DR DC his dr DC conjunct my Chiron 13 aspects my dr Venus conjunct his dr Saturn my dr Venus conjunct his dr Vertex
my dr Amor conjunct his AC my dr Amor opposite his dr Psyche my dr DC conjunct his Saturn my dr DC conjunct his VErtex my dr DC conjunct his DC my dr DC conjunct his dr Psyche
8 - not so nicely balanced
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 09:15 AM
for potential chemistry:his Mars conjunct my dr Anteros his Mars opposite my Ceres his dr Mars opposite my Pluto his Eros conjunct my dr Anteros his Eros conjunct my Ceres his dr Eros conjunct my dr Karma his dr Eros conjunct my Pluto his Anteros opposite my Chiron his Anteros opposite my dr Venus his dr Anteros opposite my Eros his ASC conjunct my DR Mars his AC conjunct my DR Amor his AC conjunct my dr AC 13 aspects my Mars conjunct his dr Chiron my dr Mars opposite his Saturn my dr Mars conjunct his Antivertex my dr Mars conjunct his AC my dr Mars opposite his dr Psyche my dr Eros o pposite his Chiron my Anteros conjunct his Valentine my Anteros opposite his dr Pluto my Anteros opposite his dr Anteros my dr Anteros opposite his Mars my dr Anteros opposite his Amor my dr Anteros conjunct his Eros my AC conjunct his dr Chiron 13 aspects - that`s better I only wonder what this emphasis on Anteros is supposed to mean. And for some of the "couple-asteroids"
Isis / Osiris his Isis conjunct my SN his Isis conjunct my DC his Isis conjunct my dr Moon his dr Isis conjunct my Venus his dr Isis conjunct my Isis his dr Isis conjunct my Osiris his Osiris conjunct my IC (and trine my ASC) his osiris opposite my dr Karma my Isis / Osiris conjunct his dr Isis
my dr Isis / Osiris conjunct his dr Vertex Siva / Kaali his Siva conjunct my dr Pluto - Venus de India said that could be like a Venus-Pluto-aspect his dr Siva conjunct my Parvati (Parvati was the first beloved wife of Siva) his Kaali conjunct my Mars his Kaali conjunc tmy NN his Kaali conjunct my ASC his Kaali opposite my dr Moon his dr Kaali oposite my Venus my dr Siva conjunct his SN my dr Kaali conjunct his Karma my dr Kaali conjunct his DEstinn And for Adonis - Aphrodite (Venus):
his Adonis conjunct my Adonis his dr Aphrodte conjunct my dr Venus his Adonis opposite my dr Venus my Adonis opposite his dr Aphrodite my Aphrodite opposite his dr Mars my Adonis conjunct his dr Antivertex his Aphrodite conjunct my dr DC DD IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 09:19 AM
PA,yes, you are right, this sort of connection is all about MY growth and transformation, at least at the moment. And therefor he - Jude- still seems to be somewhat important to me, otherwise I wouldn`t dream of him, I guess. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 18, 2008 09:41 AM
ddthats a WHOLE lot of conjunctions (and oppositions) happening there - i mean, a REAL lot. and it doesn't just cover one element - it goes (and well balanced) throughout each - it's all covered - spiritual, physical, mental. and, also, you've got that balance of being connected on earth level and spirit level. that's pretty stellar. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 18, 2008 09:43 AM
ddyes, what do you think jude is trying to tell you - or awaken within you - or even release. i would more say awaken but it could be anything and your intuit is the best source and guide for that one. i'd say once you learn what you need to or bring to consciousness what you need to the attraction or drawing will just naturally dissolve. unless, of course, you are actually destined to meet - which - do you think could (even slightly) be a possibility? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 09:45 AM
On a quick glance there are even some Double whammies in the tropical:Sun / Psyche: sextile 0° sextile 3° - okay this one is a tad wide, but I thought since we have Psyche-Psyche-conjunct it still counts Saturn / Valentine: trine - 2,5 sextile - 0 NN / Amor: square - 1 square - 0 Vertex / Valentine: trine - 1,5 sextile - 0 Valentine / Juno: trine - 0 trine - 2,5 AC / Eros: square - 1 trine - 2 AC / Destinn: sextile - 0 trine - 0 Adonis / Sun: sextile - 0 sextile - 1,5 Adonis / Psyche: trine - 2 trine - 0 So there is actually a chain of double whammies between Adonis - Psyche - Sun with Sun conjunct Sun, Psyche conjunct Psyche, Adonis conjunct ADonis. Looks interesting.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 18, 2008 09:47 AM
omg - that's an ENORMOUS amount of double whammies!i'm going to disappear for a few minutes. having problems with computer that will try to fix right now. hopefully back soon. if not - it means i stuffed up and will see you tomorrow. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 10:02 AM
Gotta go for a couple of minutes too.HOpe to catch you later,n if not, good night. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 10:45 AM
Yes, I think that`s a pretty impressive list of double whammies, even though they are "only" with asteroids.I didn`t even include the Draco`s here. But I noticed that we have a very symmetrical DW on Ceres / IC. The Draconic Ceres is conjunct each other`s IC. It looks like the chart of two people who could really care for each other. If we remember that the IC is the deepest core of one`s personality and related to soulmates and karma and that the Draconics also say something about past lives, it could mean that we have been part of the same family in a previous life. Since Ceres makes the connection, and Ceres is THE mothergoddess, I suspect it has been a mother-child-relationship. The high emphasis on the IC`s would further confirm that. Also, his dr Ceres / my IC trines my Mars, Neptune, AC and NN. My dr Ceres / his IC opposes his Sun-Moon-MC-conjunction and sextiles his NN. It is quite remarkable, that both Ceres / IC-aspects connect to important planets and to the NN in both cases.
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 01:30 PM
I just looked up our Egyptian signs.My birthday is the 18th december, the last day of OSIRIS His birthday is the 19th december, the first day of ISIS Additionally his Draco Isis is exactly conjunct my Osiris. Whoa, doesn`t something like this gives you the shivers? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 04:17 PM
I think I got fascinated with my own idea again. So I checked Jude`s and my synastry for the same set of planets (to have a better comparision) CARING his Moon opposite my dr Venus his Ceres conjunct my Anteros his Junjo conjunct my Mars his Juno conjunct my Amor his dr Juno conjunct my Moon his IC conjunct my IC 6 aspects my Moon conjunct his draco Juno my dr Moon conjunct his DC my dr Ceres conjunct his dr Chiron my Juno conjunct his Eros my Juno opposite his dr Valentine my Juno oppoiste his Anteros my dr Juno opposite hisSun my dr Juno conjunct his Valentine my IC conjunct his IC my IC conjunct his dr Antivertex my dr IC conjunct his Vertex 11 aspects ROMANCE
his Venus conjunct my NN his Venus opposite my Karma his dr Venus conjunct my Psyche his Venus opposite my dr Psyche his dr Amor opposite my dr Saturn his Amor conjunct my Psyche his VAlentine oppoiste my Venus his Valentine conjunct my dr Juno his dr Valentine opposite my Juno his dr Valentine opposite my dr Valentine his dr Valentine opopsite my dr Amor his DC conjunct my SN his DC conjunct my dr Moon 13 aspects my Venus conjunct his Sun my Venus oposite his Valentine my dr Venus opposite his MOon my Amor conjunct his Juno my Amor opposite his drEros my dr Amor conjunct his dr Sun my dr Amor oposite his dr Valentine my dr Amor conjunct his Eros my Valentine conjunct his Mars my Valentine conjunct his dr Anteros my dr Valentine conjunct his Eros my dr VAlentine conjunct his dr Sun my dr Valentineo posite his dr Valentine my dr VAlentine o pposite his Anteros my DC conjunct his DC 15 aspects IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 18, 2008 04:21 PM
CHEMISTRYhis Mars conjunct my Valentine his dr Mars opposite my dr Chiron his Eros conjunct my Juno his Eros conjunct my dr Valentine his ERos conjunct my dr Amor his dr Eros opposite my Mars his dr Eros opposite my Amor his Anteros oposite my Juno his Anteros opposite my dr Valentine his dr Anteros conjunct my Valentine his AC conjunct my NN his AC conjunct my AC his dr AC conjunct my Psyche 13 aspects my Mars conjunct his Juno my Mars opposite his dr ERos
my Eros conjunct his Vertex my dr Eros conjunct his Psyche my Eros opposite his dr Psyche my Anteros conjunct his Ceres my AC conjunct his AC my dr AC conjunct his dr Destinn 8 aspects
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 10:47 AM
dddid you see the "rafe" jealous of the rain thing? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 2727 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 19, 2008 11:39 AM
No, didn`t see it. What`s it all about?Jealous of the rain because it can touch someone? Or why would someone be jealous of rain? Would that be a Pluto-Neptune-symolism. Pluto - jealousy, Neptune- water, rain?
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 12:08 PM
yes yes, jealous of the rain because it can touch her.link: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-agnDXUQyRs yes, very pluto - neptune isn't it. pluto intensity and passion to neptune idealism and romanticism. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 08:48 PM
"I'm jealous of everything that moves".IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 1755 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 08:51 PM
ah, she has returned.IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 08:52 PM
Did you miss me?IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 08:53 PM
See, even when i'm not here you all can't help but talk about "rafe". Tsk Tsk. Should i say Told You So now? Or later? IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 08:59 PM
Alright, time to back track... where to begin.Alright, PA, In all honesty, after we had that conversation about how we love and the type of men and relationships we are attracted to, i felt sincerely guilty. I almost felt like you were inadvertantly saying that my type of romance is immature, naive, and unstable. Which, you are entitled to your opinion and if that is the way you think and feel then i respect that. As i respect you. But, in truth, i have no control over the way i love. Who i love. And all of the above. It's just natural for me to want and love and express myself like that. And when i said competition over who loves who more, and yada yada yada, i didn't mean it in a sick way. But then again... maybe it is sick. Maybe you're right, and all of this is destructive and unhealthy, but... i like it. I wouldn't change this aspect of me for the world. Even if it is potentially harmful, it's passionate. It's in the moment. It's raw and real and magnificent. I don't really care for stability. I'm probably not made for marriage. I don't want a family. I only want a spouse. No children. No settling down into a "normal" life. I just want to be violently in love with one person for as long as humanly possible. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 09:03 PM
You described to me the perfect relationship for you... and i wasn't attracted to that. I mean, i honor the way you feel and i understand why you would like that, but it did nothing for me personally. I wouldn't want a relationship like that. I was actually in a relationship with a young man who was looking for that. Needless to say, the romance was short lived. I wonder if his Venus was in Aries... IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 566 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted July 19, 2008 09:16 PM
Speaking of Venus in Aries, the Gothic guy that i mentioned to you a few pages back... remember, he has his Venus in Aries and i'm horrible stunned by him...?Well, you asked me "but as you are talking about a man it would show the type of woman he would be attracted to. as a woman it shows how you love. so how compatable are those two factors? is he what you need him to be? and - are we talking about happily ever after or lets take this to where it can go? what are you looking for with him?" Hmm.. yes, the type of woman he's attracted to. But that would also speak for the way he loves and shows affection... correct? That was always my understanding. And of course i'm not in love with him, or looking to have his babies. My loyalty lies elsewhere, as you know. I simply meant that the attraction that i felt toward him-instantly-was aweful. Just God aweful. It was overwhelming. I didn't want to talk to him, or smile at him, or even look at him. I just WANTED him. Immediately. Then we did begin to talk. And he's interesting. I do feel a warm affinity for him. In fact, i have a fear that if we spent more time together, and got to know each other better, i'd be in trouble. Deep. Deep. Deep. Deep. Deep. Trouble. His Chart IP: Logged |