posted August 19, 2008 01:36 AM         

I don't agree with his decision to write the book at all, but I definitely feel his pain through out the book. You can also tell that it's his way of working out what he allowed to happen with her in his life. How he allowed someone to walk all over him. He admits to becomming addicted to the power and fame that his relationship with her afforded him and that it helped with his career, but there definitely came a point where he refused to be treated badly anymore.

There's a lot of interesting family dynamic stuff going on there. I feel for him because I went through something similar with my own brother but I discovered that his angry personality was not good for me very early on in my 20's and unfortunately we aren't close.

For Christopher Ciccone, he has a lot more work to do. You can hear that he loves his sister despite the things she's done to him, but you also hear him taking little bites out of her from the very beginning of the book. He is very angry at her and himself, you can also feel his sorrow through out. I'm glad I read the book, if only for educational purposes. I have the DVD of her movie "Truth Or Dare" so it was interesting to reference certain parts of that film while I was reading the book and you can see that he's telling the truth about a lot of things in the book.

I never found Madonna to be a friendly person, but she doesn't need me to judge her. I just think it's sad that she became such a control freak that she didn't care how she treated her own brother anymore. Their story definitely isn't over yet.

When the book came out, transiting Saturn was conjunct her Mercury, suggesting some depression and it just crossed over her ASC at 8 degrees. I also think she's not to happy to be turning 50, she's very vein.

Oh, well, I could go on and on with the gossip but the book was an interesting read.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted August 20, 2008 08:56 AM         

oh, definitely. that was brilliant - loved what you said - totally agree.

i'm still reading it - but i can't help but feel that he's really writing it for her - it's him telling her that is what i've done for you and this is how you made me feel. and that he's hoping, desperate, for her to contact him and say that he's right and that she needs him.

it is a fascinating study into him. you can see this book is his therapy. not as much insight into guy ritchie as i would like to know. agreed that i think madonna is very vain and yes, hitting 50 i think would have been very hard for her.

i enjoy reading biographies - i'm fascinated by other people - how they live, think (in particular, think), see, experience things - i don't know if it shows through in the threads. people fascinate me and the more different their experiences or character the more interesting. and madonna and i, i think, are worlds apart - in a lot of ways. we're probably similar in some ways - we'd have to be somewhere - i can't see where - but there'd have to be something.

posted August 20, 2008 12:09 PM         

I also think it's important for him to say that just because her opportunities also brough him opportunities, he's just as valuable to her as she was to him. He's a Scorpio so "other's value" is a huge life lesson for him in general and she is the main "other" in his life (even if he does have a spouse).

I'm glad I read the book, even if it's not for the same reason that other people are reading it. I love your point about him subconciously waiting for her to call him and tell him that she needs him and she loves him.

In truth, she probably really does but I don't think this book was the way to do it. It may have been the way to close that door forever, which might even be what he wants (or needs) as well.