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Topic: A question about the Deep South...
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fieryscales
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posted September 01, 2008 10:05 AM
 
If the Deep South usually comprises the states of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and South Carolina, what about Florida? Wouldn't that also be considered in the Deep South as it is "under" Alabama and Georgia, therefore further south.
Or is it more political than geographical?
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LEXX
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posted September 01, 2008 10:36 AM
Alot of it is political/cultural.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason-Dixon_line I consider personally these states as being Southern due in part to the language accents:
Kentucky, West Virgina, Virginia, Tennessee,
Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas, Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi. Deep South or Old South I see as being:
Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, South Carolina, northern areas of Florida and eastern Texas areas. I suppose there are many different viewpoints on this. ------------------
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NosiS
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posted September 01, 2008 10:47 AM
Hello, fieryscales.As LEXX has mentioned, it depends on what you are talking about. Politically, Florida is definitely a Deep South state. Culturally, there are a lot of differences in Florida that have kept what is typically know as "Southern culture" from being heavily concentrated. It depends on who you are talking to and what you are talking about, really. IP: Logged |
fieryscales
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posted September 01, 2008 10:55 AM
When I googled my search for this I came across that map on Wilkipedia and it said that Florida and Texas can be considered as been in the Deep South but it is up for debate. That is why those two are shaded differently.Let's say if I wanted to know where the Deep South is geographically located, would that where Lexx mentioned or would it still be up for debate? IP: Logged |
LEXX
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posted September 01, 2008 10:56 AM
As for southern accents and religious/political viewpoints, one could include southern areas of Pennsylvania and Ohio also.------------------
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LEXX
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posted September 01, 2008 10:58 AM
Deep south would be technically those areas on the map/link I posted which are shaded the darkest.------------------
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fieryscales
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posted September 01, 2008 11:01 AM
Thats what i thought so too Lexx about the geographical part of the deep south and the deeper shade on the map.Something doesnt ring right with me about Texas being in the deep south. Perhaps part of it is, as Texas is a big state. IP: Logged |
Dervish
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posted September 02, 2008 11:46 PM
I was raised in East Texas and Houston (technically the outskirts for the most part). Houston didn't seem to have much an identification with the South, but East Texas DID have a thing for confederate flags and all that. However, there was definitely a difference seen with other southern states, and other southern states seem to reciprocate that feeling. There was a tradition of hating Oklahomans (which was also reciprocated), too, but I'm not sure why. (Texas doesn't seem to care much for New Mexico & Colorado either, but again I'm not sure why.) Here in California, people tend to see us as about the same. I have a neighbor from Tennessee, and I was able to guess from her accent that she was from the eastern part of the Deep South, as it's different from Texan, and she guessed my state from my accent right away. But most locals think our accents are the same. I recall that we also got into a mock argument about Davy Crockett, her saying that he was born in Tennessee, and my responding that he CHOSE to live in Texas, but we were just having fun, and we do feel something of a kinship here in California, like 2 aliens from the same world (if different countries of that world), and I think that's fairly typical of interaction between people of the 2 states. The oddest part to me was when I first came to California, I got made fun of for my accent hardcore by fans of Janis Joplin! And JJ talks (and even laughs) just like my granny (who has a stronger accent than I do). IP: Logged |
fieryscales
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posted September 03, 2008 06:26 AM
Thanks Dervish about your personal experiences, very interesting to read  IP: Logged |
EighthMoon
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posted September 03, 2008 06:45 PM
Fiery,I can give a little input as a transplant. I was born a "Yankee," lived in CA for 8 years, and now I'm in Florida. If you consider Miami, it's considered more of a "melting pot" like LA and NY are. If you go into some of the small towns in northern or central FL...we're talking generations back in the same small town and anyone who is an outsider is suspect. (Lived through that one.) THAT'S why some of it is considered the deep south. Another large part of Florida, though, is made up of retired northerners. I think this may be the reason for the difference. As far as Texas goes, I think many identify it with the west. Most of the deep south is associated with swamps, alligators, sweet tea, and humidity. The mannerisms of the people in Texas are very different than those in Tennessee, for example. 8th IP: Logged |
fieryscales
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posted September 04, 2008 03:34 PM
Thanks 8th  IP: Logged |
writesomething
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posted September 04, 2008 03:44 PM
avoid the south..i only liked Louisiana/new orleans, and tennessee..both were gorgeous but i also went again after katrina, and it was depressing as hell.IP: Logged |
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