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Knowflake Posts: 3239
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted October 18, 2008 08:11 AM
 
OOh a kiss from BM  You're Mars BTW. Nothing major with Nige. His Pan is conj my Ceres, trine my Sun/Merc.
His Aphro conj my Neptune and opp Mars
My Pan is just too far for his kite planets
My Aphro opposes my Johnny
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PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
From: Australia
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posted October 18, 2008 08:11 AM
No - no I made a mistake - it's Venus trine Mars I was looking at - LOL - phew! Phew! I got confused with DD talking about Venus & Mars and the mention of Pluto. Oh, thank God! Wait, will double check.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3198
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posted October 18, 2008 08:13 AM
PA,actually I do not buy that interpretation of Mars and Pluto.
They describe it in very romantic terms, but for the romantic attraction you need an involvement of Venus.
Mars-Pluto can be very interesting and attracting in sexual terms, but there is no "love" planet involved.
It`s still pretty intense I think. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:13 AM
DD quote:
Oppositions of course contain an element of tension. They are opposites after all.
Yes, that's precisely what I don't understand about oppositions. If they contain tensions, how can they balance? The best rapport - is a natural rapport. An ease. Even if it is die-hard passionate and intense. It still happens without force - just with ease.
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:15 AM
I still think that you have soft sexual aspects (Mars-Venus) and some harder Saturn aspects. I understand what DD is saying though I just don't think it would be good on a long term basis. The hard non-sexual planet aspects or even one male planet-male planet aspects (eg Sun-Mars) would give the action. The primary relation between Mars and Venus is very important and you wouldn't want these two grating each other all the time in a long relationship. I'm a firm believer of one bad Saturn aspect. It seems to get repeated in long-term couples. IP: Logged |
blue moon
Moderator Posts: 3649
From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted October 18, 2008 08:16 AM
Sorry, I tend to agree with DD on this one. The tension of the Square and Opposition can sizzle. But overall it's the look of the chart, and how it all slots together with the natal chart. What's good for one couple, isn't necessarily good for another. ...ah, bad luck me, got to go, see you later! IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted October 18, 2008 08:17 AM
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Mars-Pluto can be very interesting and attracting in sexual terms, but there is no "love" planet involved.
That's more of a psychological undercurrent maybe. Maybe operates more like Eros, that deep internalised eroticism that the descriptions on Page 13 talk about. I'm curious, what do people think of the DW between Nep-Ura, two outer planets occurring in relationship-sensitive houses? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
From: Australia
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posted October 18, 2008 08:18 AM
NO - safe. With Rafe it's the Mars trine Venus.But I do have Mars trine Pluto with Guy Ritchie! He's the Pluto person. I have Mars trine Pluto natally. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:20 AM
Mars trine Pluto with Kiefer too.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:21 AM
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I have Mars trine Pluto natally.
I have it too but then I have Eros in with them to make a grand trine. How this affects me sexually I don't know. I've heard from another website that it can make a person look really sexual, about how they walk etc. Yes it's a sexy aspect but it's deep inside, more psychological. Mars-Venus in hard aspect is very hot but unless you have it in a mild sign, how could you handle it? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3198
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posted October 18, 2008 08:21 AM
WEll, an opposition doesn`t really create THAT much tension.
After all it connects elements that like each other and the same modality.
In the case of Gemini and Sagittarius.
mutable Air - mutable Fire.I donīt really see the big problem here. I think the nature of the opposition is often mistaken for the quality of a square actually.
In the case of an opposition it is more a connection like: "You are different than me, but I need what you have got to give" It`s also been described as the "you make me whole" factor (I do not know if any apsect can do that though). IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:22 AM
I have Mars trine Venus in JT. Don't worry I feel it  Him - Aries, Me - Sag. He chase, I run. It would work. IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:24 AM
Squares always get resolved in that the energy is pent up and the partners do something to resolve that tension. It comes back again but it gets resolved again. It might be tiresome re how many times it comes back but again, it's always resolved. As I said, squares are like acne, managable if you treat it always.Oppositions are very slippery, although on the chart there is a direct collision, in reality there is a constant negotiation on the see-saw. My chart is full of them. It's either one or the other, never together unlike the square which somehow can do it. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:24 AM
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I've heard from another website that it can make a person look really sexual, about how they walk etc.
ROFL - fell of chair laughing at that! Oh, yeah! That fully describes me! Sex oozes from my pores! LOL!
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:25 AM
I'm going to bed now, I'm too depressed about JT...Good night  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:26 AM
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I have Mars trine Venus in JT. Don't worry I feel it
LOL - deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep inside! Actually, I do have Mars trine Pluto with Rafe, but it's a very wide orb. And Anderson Cooper too. I love that guy. But alas, we all know the story there. IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 3239
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posted October 18, 2008 08:26 AM
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ROFL - fell of chair laughing at that! Oh, yeah! That fully describes me! Sex oozes from my pores! LOL!
Yeah it's funny because a lot of things are said about all these amazing and dazzling characteristics and all the chats seem to always say it's the aspects that I have. Success? Nil. However, it did happen to me the other day. Something rather scary, where my walk was mentioned twice by total strangers, very scary. Wrong day, I would've been raped. btw goodbye Bluey! IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:29 AM
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In the case of an opposition it is more a connection like: "You are different than me, but I need what you have got to give"It`s also been described as the "you make me whole" factor
Well, being the great romantic that I am, that appeals to me greatly. But I still can't shake the feeling that you have two opposing forces as equal to two balancing ones. And it is a really fine line between love and hate. It can turn just like that [snaps fingers]. Even at times the two are blurred - attraction and repulsion simultaneously.
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PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:32 AM
LOL - using astrotheme to find Pluto trine Mars people. Ah, the sweet sounds of Christian Bale. Yeah, I'll take that one. Thanks.Okay - I've over-indulged the Mars trine Pluto thing now. I think that's enough of that one now. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:39 AM
I guess I don't like tension. It gives the hint of something lurking underneath that is being swept under the rug for now but will be dredged up later to be dealt with harshly.I like natural rapport. Sparks. Whether it's for a night or a week or a lifetime. I like peace. So even in a passionate encounter or relationship - it has that sexual dynamo happening but without that undercurrent of competition or desire to control or dominate or that there's something simmering just below the surface. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3198
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posted October 18, 2008 08:42 AM
Seems I am pretty alone on this one (Thank you, BM, for agreeing with me  ).But it`s okay, everyone has their own opinion and experiences. and it probably has more to do with the natal chart than an aspect alone.
Maybe I would be better suited to that opposition as others, because the ruler of my 7th house is in my 1st house, which is some kind of a Venus-Mars-connection itself. I didn`t want to dismiss the validity of a Mars-Pluto-aspect. I just wanted to point out that it`s neither soft nor romantic in itself.
And for me passion has to contain both the romantic and the sexual aspect, a coming together of Yin and Yang. I really do not think that any trine can be t he reason for ultra strong attraction. Harmoniously quietly attracting and compatibility, yes, but never that consuming passion, not even Venus and Pluto, or Venus and Mars. It tends to get very beautiful over time.
But what brings people together is something stronger.
And I think that there is something stronger between 23 and JT,e ither other synastry aspects or configurations or in the progressed synastry. Also, oppositions signs have always something in common, and I wouldn`t underestimate that. But maybe that is easier to handle in a synastry than in a natal. But of course an opposition NEVER is a conjunction and therefore doesn`t provide the same quality of union and glue. On the other hand conjunctions easily can get boring. There could be too much of the same energy, which would get unbearable over some time. Opposition always provides stimulation, sometimes maybe overstimulation, which is why I would like to have a balance of stimulating and calming aspects.
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PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:47 AM
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Wrong day, I would've been raped.
Learn martial arts. If you don't already. Do it. Best thing.
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darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3198
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posted October 18, 2008 08:51 AM
PA,would you prefer something like this?  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
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posted October 18, 2008 08:58 AM
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Seems I am pretty alone on this one
I'm not disagreeing, I'm questioning. I tend to always think that everyone is more than me or knows better than me so in finding my own astrological confidence, yeah, I'm questioning - I just don't see that. Well, maybe the truth is that I can't relate to it and it's not what I would be looking for, maybe. Maybe it's just the word "opposition" that sets the tone. quote:
And for me passion has to contain both the romantic and the sexual aspect, a coming together of Yin and Yang.
Agreed. But I don't like sex without love. Generally. It's not the same. I like intimacy. That's not the same as openness. quote:
I really do not think that any trine can be t he reason for ultra strong attraction.
For some reason, and I can't explain why - a really strong feeling on this one - I have to disagree based purely on feeling. Don't ask me to define it though. quote:
But of course an opposition NEVER is a conjunction and therefore doesn`t provide the same quality of union and glue.On the other hand conjunctions easily can get boring. There could be too much of the same energy, which would get unbearable over some time.
Too much of the same energy can work if the two people are constantly evolving and that their individual evolution is supported by the partnership. quote:
Opposition always provides stimulation, sometimes maybe overstimulation, which is why I would like to have a balance of stimulating and calming aspects.
I think you can have stimulation in conjunctions too. It depends on the planets and signs too. Uranus and Aqua and Aries are always going to be on the move in some way. See with the opposition - I can't see how there can be stimulating and calming aspects because two qualities are in oppositon to each other - it doesn't mean that one is stimulating and the other calming to begin with.
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PeaceAngel
Knowflake Posts: 3474
From: Australia
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posted October 18, 2008 09:12 AM
DDHow do you interpret the South Node-Saturn conjunction? IP: Logged |
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