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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:43 AM
DDSynastry with Sean is interesting. Sun opposite Sun. Using your interpretation of balance = a balance of personalities and natures. I suppose it could also signify clashing egoes. Love the Psyche on your IC. Also the Moon in your MC. Too bad we don't have a birth time for him. Neptune conjunct your Venus is nice - adds romantic flavour. HIs mars trines your Venus. I like that - preferable to the female's Mars trining the male Venus. The roles are more natural - man being man, woman being woman. What do you "feel" for him? Of him? What do you feel he would feel with/from/for you? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:48 AM
DD quote: Neptune can be indicative of lies and illusions,b ut if you are aware of it, I believe there is a good chance you can avoid this expression. Same with Pluto, Pluto can be very destructive, especially in people who are living pretty spiritually unconscious. They tend to underestimate the power of Pluto and then get hit by it. But if you know it, you can go along with it, and benefit from this planet A LOT.
Oh yeah! Well said. I suppose a great deal of it has to do with consciousness and also self-honesty. It does irk me sometimes when people dismiss the outer planets simply as generational because they do have a personal impact and place. It's a fine balance - but they are personally significant. When I look at a chart the first thing I look for is NN then I look at the outer planets. Sometimes I forget to look at Sun and Moon as silly as that sounds. I was looking at Guy Ritchie's chart for ages the other night and came out of the page and realised knew a lot of his chart in that moment - because I forget them 2 seconds later - but I still didn't know his Sun sign! LOL. I do that a lot! In synastry, I personally believe the nodes to be the most significant placement. No matter what type of chart I'm looking at - it's the first thing - and all the aspects. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:51 AM
DD quote: And quirks are definiteyl Uranian things, too. mercury makes jokes, too, but they are usually witty and clever and smart and rather superficial, but they lack that unconventionality I love about Uranus.
Yes, agreed - Mercury is more superficial. Yes, I can see that those qualities that I mentioned are Aquarian/Uranian. I think I'm very Uranian. In my natal, Uranus is opposite Ascendant and Sun - so it's right on my Descendant. So it makes sense that that's who I am and also who I seek.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:54 AM
DD quote: I do not even have ONE opposition natally.
I had a look at your chart to verify that - and yes! Well, I think that's rather unusual. But still it doesn't seem to make you immune from inner tensions. But then you have really interesting nodal, Neptune, Pluto placements so you don't really need any oppositions. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3198 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 06:55 AM
About that synastry, is it the one with Anderson Cooper? What caught my attention was:
° his Chiron conjunct your NN, Amor and Juno all in your 12th house - some spiritual healing? I never know who heals whom, but it seems to be a placement of healing through love or of healing wounds of love
° his Jupiter conjunct your Psyche, Sun, Karma, Chiron and ASC in your 1st house - he`s like the generous uncle who would support you no matter what you do - Jupiter can be very supportive and benevolent, and here it is conjunct your Sun and ASC, so he would probably really like and encourage the way you present yourself, which could have a very healing and calming influence on your selfimage, which also carries the wound from past lives with it (Chiron and Karma are also there) ° his Venus conjunct your Saturn exactly - highly karmic aspect - could be stabilizing or suffocating - for Saturn it is sometimes difficult to accept the appreciation Venus has to give
° his Amor and Mercury conjunct your Mars and Destinn - ah a nice intellectual loving appreciation of what you do actively
° his Moon on your IC - very emotional and intimate bond
° his Pluto and Juno on your SN and opposing your Amor and Juno - this one looks intense - with his Pluto and Juno on your SN I would look into the Draco`s, if you shared a past life - maybe you`ve been married or commited in another way, and with Pluto there, it was a very intense and deep commitment - or he forced you into a commitment and abused his power over you (not likely, I know)
° his Sun opposing your Neptune - deeply spiritual - you probably adore and idolize him - you donīt necessarily see him as he really is in everyday life, but in spiritual sense there is a close connection
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:56 AM
DD quote: PA, actually I like your Draco synastry with him better. It seems to reflect the connection you feel to him.
Yeah, I just feel this natural affinity with Christian - like, we're on the same page. We're very different people but with some very fundamental similarities. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:57 AM
meta quote: Christian is DEFFFFF a Scorpio ASC.
Oh definitely agreed there. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 06:59 AM
meta quote: Can you go away... PLEASE?!??????
Oh, you'll miss me when I'm gone. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:00 AM
meta quote: *ASTONISHMENT GALORE*******THE HEAVENS PART AND ANGELS SING "Oh Happy Day..."**** *Meta falls off computer chair and goes into hypovolemic shock****
I read this this morning and was p1ssing myself laughing. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:02 AM
DD quote: About that synastry, is it the one with Anderson Cooper?
No, it isn't - but I should look at that. Anderson has a birth time too. So that'll be good - we can use all those aspects/placements we often can't. I'll have a look at that one soon. Have to feed the animals. Back in a few minutes. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:06 AM
DD quote: I never know who heals whom,
I know! Me too! It has to be mutual in different ways, I think. Have to use feelings to work that one out. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:10 AM
DD quote: you donīt necessarily see him as he really is in everyday life, but in spiritual sense there is a close connection
You are so good! I didn't want to reveal this person's name because I thought who they are and how they are perceived publicly would have an influence on how you saw him and the chart. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:12 AM
DDI love the information you posted on the nodes in synastry. So good. Anderson's North Node conjuncts my Saturn. I also have Saturn and node connections with Colin Farrell. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 3239 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 07:15 AM
DD quote: Even though there are some polar aspects involved. Like his Sun in Capricorn, my Sun in Sag. his Venus in Sag, my Sun in Cap. So, it`s not literally the same, but nicely spread between the yin and yang planets. lol
I think you said someone where that you have a deep link with him but are not attracted as such is that right? OK, the stuff with JT: I don't know JT's birthtime, I think he has Aries Rising, I've set it at 6.5 deg and am satisfied with his chart. I've listed a lot of the Tropical v Tropical aspects, no where near exhaustive. Sorry if it is long, I'm going to keep the others short. Tropical v Tropical (23's aspects v JT's) Venus/Memoria opp Sun/Venus Venus/Memoria trine Mars/Eros Sun/Saturn/Mercury opp Mars/Eros (natally 23's Sun/Merc opp Saturn) Jupiter/ASC/Moon/Pluto square Saturn Saturn square Mars Vertex conj Moon/Psyche Hera conj Moon SN conj Isis SN conj Moon (wide - 5 deg) Eros square Psyche ASC/Eris conj Memoria Jupiter conj Taylor Anteros conj Mars/Eros Venus square Nigel Nigel/Eros opp Liebe Pluto opp ASC Karma/Moon conj Hera/Adonis Cupido conj Karma Neptune conj Aphro Union/Taylor conj Johnny MC conj Saturn Sun/Lust/Merc/Angel conj Valentine (Sun/Lust/Merc are 4 degrees from Valentine though) 23's first name/Lyubov conj Chiron Amor conj Link/Echo Link conj Echo Juno conj NN Eros/Nigel square Moon/Amor/Psyche Mars opp Johnny/Juno Child conj Vertex In 23's chart: Nigel conj Eros both square NN/Hera In JT's chart: 23's first name conj Lust/ASC, 23's second name conj BML, 23's second name square Vertex Draconic v Tropical (23's aspects v JT's) ASC trine Jupiter/Mars ASC sextile Sun/Venus Moon conj Chiron/23's first name in his chart Venus square Valentine Mars opp Mars Mars conj Union Mars trine Sun/Venus Mars sextile Jupiter Jupiter trine Mars/Jupiter Uranus conj SN Pluto trine Venus Chiron opp Chiron POF conj Amor/Moon/Psyche Psyche conj Adonis/Hera Eros widely conj Sun/Venus (4, 5 deg resp) Isis conj Nigel Karma conj Chiron Union conj Mars/Eros Union sextile Venus/Sun/Jupiter Hera opp Link/Echo Cupido conj ASC/Lust/23's first name Vertex opp Nigel Adonis conj Memoria Vertex square Sun/Venus/Jupiter Penelope conj Sun/Venus and opp Jupiter Nigel/Eros widely conj Sun/Venus (4, 5 def resp) Taylor opp Chiron 23's first name opp Saturn
I'm out of breath....
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3198 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 07:20 AM
PA,"Sun opposite Sun. Using your interpretation of balance = a balance of personalities and natures." I think the balancing happens more often with polar planets like Sun and Moon for example. In this case I think it`s like you described it yesterday, probably a mix of attraction and repulsion. "Love the Psyche on your IC. Also the Moon in your MC." Yes, that looks nice, doesn`t it?
"Neptune conjunct your Venus" Pretty dreamy I think.
" HIs mars trines your Venus. I like that - preferable to the female's Mars trining the male Venus. The roles are more natural - man being man, woman being woman." Yes. Event hough I usually do not look at other aspects than conjunction and opposition in the Draco`s (to keep the charts uncluttered). But I think it is a nice one to have.
"hat do you "feel" for him? Of him?" Interesting question. Without astrology? You know what my initial reaction was, when Blue Moon posted his pic the first time? (And I didn`t even know who he was at that time).
But I felt something boiling inside, felt like anger or something like this. And the thought of "Not now, not here, not again". And I stayed away from your discussion over him, because I kinda felt he was "dangerous". It`s just now that I realized how many films I have seen where he was in it, and I remember that I have felt that sort of "anger" - and something else - every time I saw him,a nd forgot about him every time again. I mean he even managed to distract me from Jude in the film "Shopping"; I thought Sean was oozing so much sex appeal in the short scenes he had, and he had such sizzling chemistry with Sadie Frost (who later became Jude`s wife for many years, so you should have thought THEY had the most on screen chemistry), but he unsettled me - GREATLY. Now that I have come aware of him. What do I feel? It feels rough, raw, edgy; You know the song "Poison"? There is this line that goes: "I wanna hurt you just to hear you scream my name". That`s how it feels like. In a way it feels like I am not only attracted to him, but that I want to fight him. It`s a bit strange and probably most embarassing, but it has the whole feel of those Pirate-movies I used to love so much (still do), where both struggle for suppremacy, despite knowing they are equal in strength, just in different ways. But not like in a fight on life and death, more like young leos fight against or with each other, in a rough, but still playful and goodnatured way. Stupid? Me? Probably. And then, on a completely different level, he makes me feel comfortable. At ease. You know I would only be able to fight, if I really felt comfortable. I contribute that to the fact that his Sun in my 4th house trines my Sun, and that his Moon trines my Sag-stellium. Hmm, looking at the Dracos:
Draco - Draco Sun opposite Sun Moon conjunct Pluto Mars opposite Lilith Neptune conjunct Venus Juno opposite Karma Karma opposite Chiron Destinn conjunct MOon Eros opposite Lilith Lust oposite pluto and Aphrodite Lilith and Nesus conjunct Eros, Destinna nd Vertex Draco - natal Sun conjunct Aphrodite Saturn opposite Sun Neptune conjunct chiron Pluto conjunct MOon Juno conjunct IC Destinn conjunct DSC Unionc onjunct Moon Psyche conjunct ERos! Psyche conjunct Vertex and Destinn Amor oposite Moon
Natal Draco
Sun conjunct Venus Moon conjunct Chiron Mercury conjunct Neptune Venus conjunct Moon Mrs conjunct Jupiter Mars conjunct juno Saturn opposite Juno Uranus conjunct chiron Neptune conjunct Saturn Karma oposite Union Destinn opposite Lilith Eros conjunct Juno BTW what I said above, it only pictures what I receive ona purely emotional level from his appearance and way he comes across in films; I do not know anything about him in real life, except that he can`t remain married for long obviously. So, his REAL personality could actually be a turn off, if he for example was a drinker or abused his wife.
Int he usual synastry there are some aspects that do not look so good actually. His Saturn squares my Pluto and Mc his Mars squares my MC his Pluto widely squares my Mars Actually if I see it right, his Venus on 3° Gemini opposes my Mars on 5° Sagittarius and squares his Pluto on 2° Virgo A T-square of Venus, Mars and Pluto? It would probably a good idea to never cross his path, even though the chemistry would be insane. But hey, the chemistry between OJ Simpson and Nicole Brown was probably insane, too. Do not really want to have any of that in real life.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:23 AM
DDTropical synastry with Anderson Cooper: His North Node conjuncts my Saturn. His Vertex conjunct my Destinn & Mars. His Pluto conjunct my South Node. (Again!!!!) His Mercury conjunct my IC. His Saturn conjunct my Sun, Psyche, Karma, Ascendant & Chiron. (Whoa!) His Sun trine my Moon. His Destinn conjuncts my Descendant. My Vertex is a wide around 3-4 degree orb conjunction of his Ascendant. His MC square my Ascendant. His Descendant conjunct my Karma. His Moon conjunct my Mercury. His Karma opposite my Moon. His Psyche trine my MC. His NN trine my MC. Draco: His Psyche conjunct my IC. His Saturn conjunct my Moon. His Sun conjunct my Karma & Sun. His Mercury conjunct my Saturn. His Psyche trine the North Nodes. His Destinn trine my Ascendant. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:24 AM
DD quote: "Neptune conjunct your Venus" Pretty dreamy I think.
Both idealise and romanticise each other in different ways? Yes?
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:26 AM
DD quote: Interesting question. Without astrology?
Yes, without astrology.
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PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:29 AM
DDYour feelings/reaction to Sean are incredibly strong - and vivid. What you said about him calming, etc - I think that's something about him - he has that thing about him - exudes it - for women. I think there's a common thing about him that women are drawn to/find attractive. I really get the sense that Sean is one of those men who just loves women. I get the same sense about Colin, but in different ways. Though they would appreciate similar things in women - the balance of them is different for each of them. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 3239 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 07:31 AM
Tropical v Draconic (23's aspects v JT's)Pluto square Sun/Venus/Jupiter Cupido conj Moon Mercury/Sun/Lust conj Mercury Saturn conj Saturn SN/Isis/Anti-vertex conj Neptune Mars square Pluto Mars square Chiron Adonis conj POF ASC conj Vertex Moon/Pluto/Jupiter square BML Venus opp Juno/Johnny/Taylor Moon/Karma conj 23's first name Eros square Eros Cupido conj Psyche SN/Isis/Anti-vertex square Valentine Psyche conj Karma ASC opp ASC/Osiris Moon conj ASC Sun/Merc/Lust opp Amor Venus/Union trine Union Venus/Union square Hera Sun/Mercury/Lust square Aphrodite Amor opp Hera (oddly my first name in his tropical is conj his draco Johnny/Cupido) and his draco Vx conj Memoria EDIT: Pluto opp Vertex ASC conj Vertex
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darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3198 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 07:38 AM
PA,who is this guy? I wanna know! Interesting what you say on the Nodes and outer planets. I also think more and more that the Nodes may hold the key to a synastry; and therefore the Nodes-horoscope (the Draconic chart) becomes pretty evident, too.
On outer planets; I dont give any real credit to connections like isolated Uranus-Pluto for example. But I think they become VERY meaningful, if coupled with personal planets. The personal aspects are important, too, because they describe your basic compatibility, though. And yes, I have my contradictions without having oppositions. The Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house alone makes up for an interesting dilemma. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:38 AM
DDIn tropical, Colin's Psyche & Moon conjunct my IC. Oh, love that! Interestingly, Colin has natal Venus trine Pluto and I have natal Mars trine Pluto. His Pluto and Karma conjunct my Descendant. His NN trines my NN. His Psyche trines my NN. His Pluto & Karma are opposite my Psyche, Sun, Ascendant and Chiron. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:39 AM
23What? No pics of JT? No shocked look? Oh man - that pic totally cracks me up every time. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 3239 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted October 19, 2008 07:41 AM
Draconic v Draconic (23's aspects v JT's)Venus trine Sun/Venus Venus sextile Jupiter Mars square Saturn Mars trine Uranus Mars trine Juno Saturn opp Mars POF square Valentine Eros wide conj Juno (5 deg) Psyche conj ASC Karma/Moon square Karma Union square Saturn Mars trine Johnny/Taylor I'm sorry I'm too tired to do the rest. I'll look other posts on here tonight tomorrow. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted October 19, 2008 07:42 AM
DD quote: who is this guy? I wanna know!
I know! It's really getting to you isn't it? Aqua Moon NEEDS to know! LOL. While this Aqua Moon likes to taunt. I'll be back in about 10 minutes - still haven't fed the animals! Very very bad. I'll think about telling you then. You'll NEVER guess. Oh, well, you can try. IP: Logged |