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PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 09:43 PM
 
LOL - if you lexi my name with Rafe's the word "unhappiness" comes up.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 09:46 PM
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Is what to me?...
The different ways and things that people draw upon certain feelings and expressions. It's more than sitting in front of the mirror perfecting an expression. To be believable - for the audience to see you as the character and more than the actor playing him/her, you have to put yourself in there. How and what do you learn from JJI, DDL, Rafe, etc? How does it affect how you act? And how you learn about yourself? IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 09:46 PM
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I always get the sense that you really enjoy analysing these people like this - breaking them down.
Oh yes. Definitely. I don't like the sense of being disconnected from them. Or detached. Not just with these men, but with anyone who evokes something from me. I want to know everything. Their quirks, their habits, their favorites, their dislikes, their childhood. It gives a real sense of who they are. It speaks volumes. Is that weird? Is it weird how much i analyze? It's ok if you say yes. I won't take offense. I've been told many times that i should be a psychologist. I think if i were to ever have another job that would be it. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 09:47 PM
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LOL - if you lexi my name with Rafe's the word "unhappiness" comes up.
What a shocker! IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 09:54 PM
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The different ways and things that people draw upon certain feelings and expressions. It's more than sitting in front of the mirror perfecting an expression. To be believable - for the audience to see you as the character and more than the actor playing him/her, you have to put yourself in there. How and what do you learn from JJI, DDL, Rafe, etc? How does it affect how you act? And how you learn about yourself?
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This will sound sincerely vain, but i never learned to act from anyone. There has never been a performance from any one of the actors i admire that i have picked something up and used it. I have learned practical things. Like, i watched something with JJI where he was talking about using energy points. By placing focus on a part of your body you present the person in a certain way. And DDL- i always wanted to be a method actor, i just didn't know that there was a term for it. When i was introduced to DDL i realized how much he had always impacted me without ever having known him. I honestly believe that acting cannot be taught. You cannot teach someone to manifest themselves into someone else. You cannot teach someone to be able to commit so completely into a situation that tears, or laughter, or pain comes like a reflex. It's either there or it isn't. You either believe it or you don't. If the actor doesn't give absolutely everything he has to the role, the audience can sense it. If the actor doesn't believe it, no one will. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 09:56 PM
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Agreed. Definitely. Actually, what you just said there reminds me of myself. How vain!
I don't think it's vain. I'm like that. But I'm not brooding. I spend a lot of time inside myself. I live in my head. But music a lets me feel. It takes me somewhere that nothing else can. I learn a lot from inside my self. And we're all wounded in some way. We all have to go there at various times. To heal. To learn. To relate to ourselves. To just be. quote:
How is it more about you than him?
I'm not willing to invest my personal energy into someone who isn't willing to help themselves/heal themselves. It's a total waste of time and effort. Yes, Christian HAS to be Scorpy rising. Look at him! God, he looks AMAZING in black. He seems to wear it mostly. Not everyone can carry black. I can't wear it. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 09:56 PM
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Rafe just doesn't evoke anything. It's an empty vessel. I'd like to say that I like him or even hate him. But there's nothing. Same with Jude. I find Jude weak. I just really do. He's a fine looking human man - but there's no connection or any feeling for him.
I think that you cannot see yourself in Jude or Ralph. Just like i cannot offer anything to JJI, they cannot offer anything to you. They cannot give you the piece you are lacking. But in RDJ, in Christian, in Colin, whoever, you have this feeling like they having something you need. Or that they are a reflection of you, some more than others of course.
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PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 09:57 PM
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What a shocker!
I know! Such a big word from two names. LOL. If I lexi my name with RDJ's we get "predestinable". ROFL. Ahh, what do you say! IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:00 PM
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I don't think it's vain. I'm like that. But I'm not brooding. I spend a lot of time inside myself. I live in my head. But music a lets me feel. It takes me somewhere that nothing else can. I learn a lot from inside my self. And we're all wounded in some way. We all have to go there at various times. To heal. To learn. To relate to ourselves. To just be.
I wouldn't picture you as a brooder. But i can see him as a brooder. I'm a brooder. I have found it's not as attractive in women as it is in men. Something about a broodish female comes off more like "intimidating" than "sexy". I think that he would withdraw more than average. I think DDL would too. I admit to it. Maybe it's a Water thing? Or Earth? Or both? IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:02 PM
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I'm not willing to invest my personal energy into someone who isn't willing to help themselves/heal themselves. It's a total waste of time and effort. Yes, Christian HAS to be Scorpy rising. Look at him! God, he looks AMAZING in black. He seems to wear it mostly. Not everyone can carry black. I can't wear it.
Ah, i see. You don't think he would want to be healed? Yes, there is something about Scorpio ASC and black. But you're Aries ASC, you're supposed to wear red. No wonder you don't like black. Quit trying to pose as one of us, you creeper! I know you want in the club, but your access has been denied! IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:03 PM
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I've been told many times that i should be a psychologist.
We are so alike sometimes. I'm the same. I've always been told that. Funny thing is - that when you find a spark in someone that you can see yourself in them and vice versa then you explore it to learn them inside out - but I think it's really about learning about your self, through them. It's easy to attach to them though - once you see yourself in them. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:03 PM
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I know! Such a big word from two names. LOL.If I lexi my name with RDJ's we get "predestinable". ROFL. Ahh, what do you say!
LMAO! Such a big word! I think that the universe is trying to tell you something PA. Don't pick out China patterns just yet! "Predestinable"- hmm... how unfortunate. I'm sure you're so let down by such a mediocre word! IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:06 PM
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We are so alike sometimes. I'm the same. I've always been told that. Funny thing is - that when you find a spark in someone that you can see yourself in them and vice versa then you explore it to learn them inside out - but I think it's really about learning about your self, through them. It's easy to attach to them though - once you see yourself in them.
We are alike. And i totally agree with what you said. But that sounds so selfish though. That you're sort of using this person (or these people) as a medium to discover yourself! Just like the healing thing- through healing someone i ( or you) heal myself. It seems like you don't care about the person at all; your end all goal is to release yourself. I don't like that. I want to believe that i want to heal he or she. Not me. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:10 PM
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I honestly believe that acting cannot be taught. You cannot teach someone to manifest themselves into someone else. You cannot teach someone to be able to commit so completely into a situation that tears, or laughter, or pain comes like a reflex. It's either there or it isn't. You either believe it or you don't. If the actor doesn't give absolutely everything he has to the role, the audience can sense it. If the actor doesn't believe it, no one will.
I can understand that. I'm not an actor. I don't really enjoy it. I used to make movies when I was younger but I could never act. I'm happy to write and create and sometimes direct. But that's it. To direct I have to be utterly passionate about it. It's such a pain in the @rse job. I enjoy writing. That's what I do best. That's most sincere to who I am. Most natural. So true about committing to the role and the scene - because you can watch a movie and think oh, that's Julia Roberts playing such and such and it's good - but to watch a movie and to hold your breath when they're fighting for their life or to cry because of one gentle gesture or to feel inside your body something for them - whether it be their emotional pain or even something sexual - that's where it's at. I love movies. When I was little I wasn't allowed to have friends. But my dad would drop me off at the cinema once or twice a week. I have a love affair with movies. It's not in my soul like music - but it's still another world. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:12 PM
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But in RDJ, in Christian, in Colin, whoever, you have this feeling like they having something you need. Or that they are a reflection of you, some more than others of course.
Yes, that's exactly it. I feel there is something in common - inside. A mutual reflection. Some more than others - but some equally but in different ways.
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posted October 22, 2008 10:16 PM
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I can understand that. I'm not an actor. I don't really enjoy it. I used to make movies when I was younger but I could never act. I'm happy to write and create and sometimes direct. But that's it. To direct I have to be utterly passionate about it. It's such a pain in the @rse job. I enjoy writing. That's what I do best. That's most sincere to who I am. Most natural.So true about committing to the role and the scene - because you can watch a movie and think oh, that's Julia Roberts playing such and such and it's good - but to watch a movie and to hold your breath when they're fighting for their life or to cry because of one gentle gesture or to feel inside your body something for them - whether it be their emotional pain or even something sexual - that's where it's at. I love movies. When I was little I wasn't allowed to have friends. But my dad would drop me off at the cinema once or twice a week. I have a love affair with movies. It's not in my soul like music - but it's still another world.
I didn't know you were a writer, or director, or "bad" actor! How amazing you are! Do tell! Yes. Exactly. There is a difference between someone saying the words and someone living the words. You can feel it. When you don't remember the movie, that's a sign that you were not moved. I want you to walk out of the theater and carry with you what i have just done. I want to leave an impression upon you. Good or bad. If i have evoked emotion from you, i am satisfied. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:16 PM
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Yes, that's exactly it. I feel there is something in common - inside. A mutual reflection. Some more than others - but some equally but in different ways.
I empathize. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:16 PM
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I think that he would withdraw more than average. I think DDL would too. I admit to it. Maybe it's a Water thing? Or Earth? Or both?
I withdraw a lot, and I think that's where Christian and I meet. I feel, somehow, we're the same inside. But I'm not a brooder. Women are far too strong to brood. We have a very different strength to men. Could be a fire thing. People underestimate the emotional content of fire. Highly emotional. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:20 PM
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I withdraw a lot, and I think that's where Christian and I meet. I feel, somehow, we're the same inside. But I'm not a brooder. Women are far too strong to brood. We have a very different strength to men.Could be a fire thing. People underestimate the emotional content of fire. Highly emotional.
For some reason i would picture you as someone who doesn't like people who withdraw often. Someone who doesn't like broodish behavior. Yes, i think fire does get a bad wrap for emotion. I think that the emotion with fire is different than water though. Water is much more deep and somber. Fire is much more sudden and on the surface. Fire won't harbor and dwell. Water will. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:20 PM
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Ah, i see. You don't think he would want to be healed?
No, I don't think he wants to be healed. He's happy to wallow. Whether he realises he's happy doing it or not. quote:
Yes, there is something about Scorpio ASC and black. But you're Aries ASC, you're supposed to wear red. No wonder you don't like black. Quit trying to pose as one of us, you creeper! I know you want in the club, but your access has been denied!
Ah damn! I've been sprung. ***hasty retreat*** I can wear red really really well. Black looks awful on me. I'm not drawn to it either. Most people seem to have a lot of black in their wardrobe. Not me. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:24 PM
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Do tell!
No, nothing to tell. That was a long time ago. quote:
Yes. Exactly. There is a difference between someone saying the words and someone living the words. You can feel it. When you don't remember the movie, that's a sign that you were not moved. I want you to walk out of the theater and carry with you what i have just done. I want to leave an impression upon you. Good or bad. If i have evoked emotion from you, i am satisfied.
Yes, precisely. I'm not often moved by an entire movie. But scenes stay with me forever. It's rare for a movie to make me stop in my tracks and sit and involve myself fully. Usually I'm flitting around doing stuff at the same time. It has to really connect to make me stop. And then I watch it over and over again until I've studied it to death. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:27 PM
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For some reason i would picture you as someone who doesn't like people who withdraw often. Someone who doesn't like broodish behavior.
I have such a bubbly persona that people don't expect any value or depth there. quote:
Yes, i think fire does get a bad wrap for emotion. I think that the emotion with fire is different than water though. Water is much more deep and somber. Fire is much more sudden and on the surface. Fire won't harbor and dwell. Water will.
Yes, I love that definition. That is so good. Brilliant. Very true. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:28 PM
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No, I don't think he wants to be healed. He's happy to wallow. Whether he realises he's happy doing it or not.
I think you're right. I know you're right. quote:
Yes, precisely. I'm not often moved by an entire movie. But scenes stay with me forever. It's rare for a movie to make me stop in my tracks and sit and involve myself fully. Usually I'm flitting around doing stuff at the same time. It has to really connect to make me stop. And then I watch it over and over again until I've studied it to death.
We're so much alike. SO much. Do you ever get flashbacks? Like, you'll be doing something or something will have just happened and you remember that scene, or that line? Happens to me often. Most often with DDL, which is weird. I'm not obsessed with DDL or anything, but i am blown away by him. There's a scene in Age Of Innocence that i haven't forgotten in years. IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2008 10:30 PM
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I have such a bubbly persona that people don't expect any value or depth there.
I sense depth. I would just think you would feel like brooding is a waste of time and energy. quote:
Yes, I love that definition. That is so good. Brilliant. Very true.
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PeaceAngel
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posted October 22, 2008 10:33 PM
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We're so much alike. SO much. Do you ever get flashbacks? Like, you'll be doing something or something will have just happened and you remember that scene, or that line? Happens to me often. Most often with DDL, which is weird. I'm not obsessed with DDL or anything, but i am blown away by him. There's a scene in Age Of Innocence that i haven't forgotten in years.
LOL - frequently. But it's so hard in that moment to stop and share and explain it to someone else. So it's always a private thing I relive or relate to the situation in my own head and have a laugh, or whatever. IP: Logged |
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