posted October 24, 2008 09:52 AM         

Let me try to relate to my chart:

Mars in Fire:

Mars in Aries:
would feel natural to my Mars, ASC and Sun in Sagittarius
But if it falls at about 8°, it would make a T-square with my Pluto and my Venus. That could surely be a strong attracting factor, but not so good for the harmony.

Mars in Leo:
would also feel natural to my Sun, Mars, ASC in Sagittarius; would be opposing my MOon in Aquarius. If it is about 1° of Leo, it would square my Uranus.
It is kinda okayish but except for the opposition to Moon and the fact that it would fall into my 8th house, neither painful nor very attracting. Of the fire signs that would be the least favourite plaement.

Mars in Sag:
My own Mars-placement. Conjunct Mars, ASC, Sun. Could works as a very sexual yang-attraction-thing.
But doesn`t really touch my Venus in Capricorn. So I rarely feel deeply attracted to this placement. It would be more sexual than erotic.

Air signs:
My least favourite placements!

Libra:
This one happens at times and is the most preferred of the Air-signs.
At about 8° it would conjunct my Pluto and square my Venus, being pretty attractive.
Would trine my Moon and sextile all my Sag-planets.
It`s manageable.

Aquarius:
Not really.
Sextiles my Sag-Planets, trines my Pluto.
at about 17° it would conjunct my Moon, so that would be the strongest attraction-point in Aqua for me.

Gemini:
could be pretty attractive. I actually have made that experience.
would oppose my Sag-planets, conjunct my DSC, trine my MOon and Pluto (at different degrees).
So that could actually work with a lot of patience and work. But it wouldn`t be ultra attractive.
Oppositions between Mars-Mars and Mars-Sun would be pretty harsh,t oo.

posted October 24, 2008 10:17 AM         

Taurus:
Would be liked by my Venus in Capricorn, but loathed by my Moon in Aquarius.
Could easily (around 9°) become the apex of a yod between my ASC (and Mars and Neptune) and Pluto.
Falls eithe rin my 5th or in my 6th house.
So I guess it would make a difference, if it is an early Taurus or a late one.

The EArly Taurus around 4° - 9° would trine my Venus and make a yod with my Mars, ASC and Pluto and fall into my 5th house.
The later would fall into my 6th house (21°) and probably squar emy Moon on 17° Aqua or quinkunx my Sun on 26° SAgittarius. Not prefered.

Virgo:
the placement around 3° - 12° is actually an attracting factor, even though it gives very mixed feelings, and the attraction wouldn`t last I think.
It would oppose my chartruler, but in the early degrees trine my Venus, but also square my Mars and ASC - mixed feelings.
Also, my own Mars conjuncts Neptune, I don`t know how a Virgo Mars could deal with that.

In the later degrees it would square my Sun and Mercury.

So not the ideal position either.

Capricorn:
VEry much attracted to that, even a Mars-Saturn-aspect will do it.
Would be conjunct my Venus and square my Pluto - intensely passionate, but not easy.
Wouldn`t touch my Sag-planets.
So despite the attraction it is clearly not ideal.

Water:

Pisces:
I have an understanding of that Mars, as my own Mars is in 12th house ocnjunct Neptune. That helps a lot.
Because this Mars would square my Sun, ASC and Mars in SAgittarius, and would only be weakly sextile my Venus.

Scorpio:
Very attracted to that, because my natal Venus-Pluto-square can`t help it.
BUT in the early degrees it would be conjunct my Uranus and sextile my Venus and I doubt an early Scorpio-Mars likes my Uranus on top.
In the middle it would square my Moon, trine my SAturn and Eros. (Stuart has that position). There is some attraction, but never harmonious I guess.
In the late degrees it would aspect nothing (like JUde`s Mars, unless you count the conjunction to my Mars with 6°).

Cancer:
Interesting placement. Kinda complementary, but not easy.
It depends where it falls.
Cancer falls into my 7th and 8th house.
In the end it would quinkunx my Sun - not good.
in the middle around 15° - 25° it would conjunct my Saturn, Vertex and Eros, oppose my Sun-Moon-midpoint, pretty karmic axis there!

posted October 24, 2008 10:42 AM         

I read Ralph's profile on Topsynergy.com...

...i'm speechless...

That's exactly how he's been in my mind for... ages.

posted October 24, 2008 10:53 AM         

It reads:

"Common RQs for Meta and Ralph-

Love: 47
Friendship: 40
Sex: 70
Partners: 0

COMMITMENT:
Your Commitment to Ralph: Average/below average
Mutual Commitment: Average/below average
How Ralph commits to you: STRONG 1

INTIMACY:
Your intimacy with Ralph: Average/below average
Mutual intimacy: 2 DOMINANT
How intimate is Ralph with you: 3 POWERFUL

PASSION:
Your passion toward Ralph: Average/below average
Mutual Passion: 1 STRONG
How passionate is Ralph toward you: 3 POWERFUL"

WHAAAAAAAAAAAATTT?!?!!? How is this freaking possible. I KNOW my freakin' passion for Ralph Fiennes isn't "Average/below average"!!!!!!!!!

posted October 24, 2008 10:55 AM         

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I know, Meta, isn`t it crazy?
It`s exactly how you always said he was. Wow!

I read Jude`s too, and there are some sentences that really made me giggle

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It actually kinda freaks me out that i was on target. It's amazing, but at the same time very depressing, ya know? Like, "Wow! I understand him but he's thousands of miles away! Damn..."

posted October 24, 2008 11:06 AM         

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I've always seen Rafe more as you do, meta.

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Seriously? Don't tease me, wench! What's your chart like? I wonder if it has to do with placements?

posted October 24, 2008 11:06 AM         

I wouldn`t take the top synergy site TOO serious.
actually I did a report with Ralph to (just curious, no I am NOT interested in your soulmate), and we`ve got a pretty good report.

Regarding your report: Well, Ralph would be pretty attracted to you, wouldn`t he?

Things that made me giggle and / or I felt were very interesting in Jude`s report:

"His desire for harmonious relationships and surroundings is so strong that he avoids personal confrontations or any expression of intense, unpleasant emotions."
Do you think he only slept with the nanny, becuase he feared she`d make a scene, if he didn`t?

"Inwardly Jude Law is often torn with indecision and is much more at odds with himself than others would ever guess from his smooth, even disposition."
I can see that inner indecision. Or was that MY inner indecision?

posted October 24, 2008 11:07 AM         

" Law is very much aware of his personal appearance, attractiveness, and charm, and he can be rather narcissistic."
That was the sentence that made me roar with laughter.

"Feelings of loneliness, extreme shyness, and/or fear of rejection plague Jude Law and may well inhibit him from expressing warmth and affection in an open way."

" For Jude Law it is certainly true that "true love is hard to find", but Law will value it tremendously when it does come to his life. "

"Jude Law yearns for his "true love" or "soulmate" and may become disappointed in others who never quite live up to his dream image of the perfect lover. Law frequently fantasizes about love and often falls in love with someone he can only love from afar."
Aah

posted October 24, 2008 11:10 AM         

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lmao @ the rain line. I hadn't realized that line was for real. I haven't seen this scene, but that won't stop me from analyzing it. From the way it's described, I think his passionless delivery is perfect b/c it's precisely that pure inner fire that he wishes he had. That's why he's jealous of the rain. The rain has that ability to purely exist, and it's in that state that love is possible. (Is the rain falling on someone he loves? What's the context?) He yearns for the type of connection the rain can have with her that he cannot have, b/c he's not free. And he knows that and feels that bondage, and like meta said, longs for that emancipation. But he says it with that cynical Cappy acceptance that that sense of freedom just isn't who he is.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-agnDXUQyRs

That's the link to the line she was talking about.

posted October 24, 2008 11:15 AM         

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Meta,

I wouldn`t take the top synergy site TOO serious.
actually I did a report with Ralph to (just curious, no I am NOT interested in your soulmate), and we`ve got a pretty good report.

Regarding your report: Well, Ralph would be pretty attracted to you, wouldn`t he?

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I know you're not in love with him, because if you were i could smell it on you. If you were, i'd be chewing on your esophagus right about now!

Anywho, He damn well better be immensely attracted to me! Otherwise he'd be getting a very hard spanking! (indeed, i think i'll give him one anyways )

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" Law is very much aware of his personal appearance, attractiveness, and charm, and he can be rather narcissistic."
That was the sentence that made me roar with laughter.

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That made me roar with laughter too!!

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"Inwardly Jude Law is often torn with indecision and is much more at odds with himself than others would ever guess from his smooth, even disposition."
I can see that inner indecision. Or was that MY inner indecision?

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posted October 24, 2008 11:19 AM         

I think your report with Rafe CANNOT be right. I just remembered that we don`t know his exact time, and if that is not known the reports vary GREATLY.

Example:

I once did my report with my last musical crush (before I knew his birthtime) and used several birthtimes for him:

1.
Love: 77
Friendship: 50
SEx: 130

2.
Love: 87
Friendship: 60
Sex: 110

And I think I once did one for Alexander Siddig and me and the results were HUGELY different.

posted October 24, 2008 11:29 AM         

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I'm not surprised to hear you fall for the fixed signs. After all you have Venus AND Mars in a fixed sign (it was Taurus and Aquarius, right?).
You know that fixed clash internally, no wonder you are attracted to them.

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That's right Venus Taurus Square Aqua Mars.

It think the liking for Leo and Scorpio makes sense in this context.

Miss Meta might draw a similar conclusion vis-a-vis her Grand Cross. It might just need that extra zing.

posted October 24, 2008 11:31 AM         

I never saw that scene before.

But I think it`s, well, I`m not sure I know what i think of it. But good, that`s for sure.
It fills me with sadness.
I see that cappy-like displayed coldness and control,t hat is just almost impossible to break.
He looks like he`s dying inside, but she must never know!
He can`t look at her, he can`t speak softly to her, he can`t let her touch him, or he would just break down, and nothing would be left of him but this immense pain of a loss that can never be healed, and the emptiness he knows exists inside him but he can`t risk to face it.

And still, I didn`t see so much desire in him (it was there, definitely, but I just didn`t see it), but the feeling of fruitlessness, of having lost, of being powerless against the cruelty of life that has taken his love away.
He has long passed the borders of despair into this void, she left when she went away and took his heart with her.

I have no idea what this film is about, but that is the feelings I received, it`s only my interpretation.

posted October 24, 2008 11:34 AM         

Do you think Venus placements are more important for you in synastry?

I wonder if with your ASC/Mars/Neptune thing going on, heavy Mars interaction isn't necessarily your thing.

It's interesting how we get a similar reaction on Air Mars signs for different reasons. I find it a more fun friends vibe, for stronger attractions the fixed sign clashes are going to drive me more.

posted October 24, 2008 11:35 AM         

I`d just look for the middle of virgo, the results will be much closer to reality It hink. If he has indeed Virgo ASC. I mean I can definitely see it in him, but we don`T know for SURE.

BM,

posted October 24, 2008 11:39 AM         

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That's right Venus Taurus Square Aqua Mars.

It think the liking for Leo and Scorpio makes sense in this context.

Miss Meta might draw a similar conclusion vis-a-vis her Grand Cross. It might just need that extra zing.

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Whatcha mean, BM? What might need the extra zing?

I think that makes a great load of sense though. I have never been more attracted to a man than when he has strong fixed placements. Especially with Venus. Venus in Leo, Aqua, Taurus or Scorpio cuts right into me. Scorpio and Taurus are the worst, however, since i have heavy usage of both.

posted October 24, 2008 11:43 AM         

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Meta,

I never saw that scene before.

But I think it`s, well, I`m not sure I know what i think of it. But good, that`s for sure.
It fills me with sadness.
I see that cappy-like displayed coldness and control,t hat is just almost impossible to break.
He looks like he`s dying inside, but she must never know!
He can`t look at her, he can`t speak softly to her, he can`t let her touch him, or he would just break down, and nothing would be left of him but this immense pain of a loss that can never be healed, and the emptiness he knows exists inside him but he can`t risk to face it.

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Lovely description. You are spot on. It leaves you feeling like you're full of damp despair. Maybe it's a Plutonian thing. You're left so touched because it's hitting the Venus/Pluto-darkness. PA was unsatisfied with it, so that's why i'm assuming it's a watery thing.

posted October 24, 2008 11:44 AM         

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Meta,

I`d just look for the middle of virgo, the results will be much closer to reality It hink. If he has indeed Virgo ASC. I mean I can definitely see it in him, but we don`T know for SURE.

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posted October 24, 2008 11:45 AM         

weird, I was answering your question before i even read it!

However, I do feel the attraction of conjunctions to my Mars / ASC / Neptune, definitely. Strong.
But without aspects to Venus-Pluto it jsut doesn`t feel like passion, you know?
It might be sexual, it might be spiritual, it might be romantic, depending on what planets aspects it, but it wouldn`t be true heartfelt soulshaking passion.

But you can easily see how ALL my crushs or celebrities I feel a certain attraction to relate to that placement:

Jude:
His Sun conjuncts my VEnus and squares my Pluto
HIs luto squares my VEnus.

Orlando:
His Mars conjunct my Venus and squares my Pluto

my first musical crush:
His Karma / VEnus and Pluto make a grand trine with my Venus.
His Pluto squares my Mars, though.

another musical actor:
His Venus and ERos conjunct my Venus and square my Pluto
His Mars conjunct my pluto and squares my Venus.

the latest musical crush (but I am already over him):
His Mars widely trines my Venus (he has REAL weak aspects to my Venus, and it never felt that PASSIONATE, more sensual and enthusiastic).

Sean:
His Mars opposes my Venus and widely squares my Pluto
HIs Venus also opposes my Mars and squares his Pluto.

posted October 24, 2008 11:46 AM         

Near yours?

posted October 24, 2008 11:54 AM         

crap, my Moon is just out of your preferred orb and it is on 17 Aquarius. Oh never mind. lol

Meta,

I donīt know why I haven`T seen it, but something makes me switch off the TV when I see Rafe is on.
I don`t mean it bad. I don`t know why I do it. I just do it.
I know he is not a bad actor, I have a good friend who had a major crush on him for many years (she is over it now, don`t worry ), I have nothing against him, really not. but Something just isn`t right.

But yes you are right. I think my Venus-Pluto-square can understand scenes like that, especially since my Venus is in Capricorn. I know how it feels like, when the smallest hint of emotion could lead to an absolute breakdown. Of course sometimes such a breakdown is necessary to come out of the shell.

And I think in a way that is what the rain symbolizes, too. I know there is another level to interprete it, but rain is also water, pure emotion, feeling, it softens him. Or at least it is the sign that she indeed has found a way into his shell. Otherwise he would not have followed her.

posted October 24, 2008 11:56 AM         

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Well my Ascendant is 13* Scorpio 40'.

Near yours?

If you have Leo planets around 13* to 16* we will also have a Fixed Grand Cross.

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My ASC is 11* Scorpio. However, my Sun is 14* Leo, Moon 15* Aqua, Mars 16* Taurus, and Pluto 15* Scorpio.

posted October 24, 2008 12:01 PM         

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Meta,

I donīt know why I haven`T seen it, but something makes me switch off the TV when I see Rafe is on.
I don`t mean it bad. I don`t know why I do it. I just do it.
I know he is not a bad actor, I have a good friend who had a major crush on him for many years (she is over it now, don`t worry ), I have nothing against him, really not. but Something just isn`t right.

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Hmm... don't tell me you have a SN/Pluto aspect with him too! If you AND PA were his servants and you both don't care for him it might lead me to believe he's not a very good housekeeper!

You did mention a SN/Pluto aspect in the past though... i think...

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But yes you are right. I think my Venus-Pluto-square can understand scenes like that, especially since my Venus is in Capricorn. I know how it feels like, when the smallest hint of emotion could lead to an absolute breakdown. Of course sometimes such a breakdown is necessary to come out of the shell.

And I think in a way that is what the rain symbolizes, too. I know there is another level to interprete it, but rain is also water, pure emotion, feeling, it softens him. Or at least it is the sign that she indeed has found a way into his shell. Otherwise he would not have followed her.

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It must be an Earth/Water thing. PA is very fiery. More boisterous emotion would affect her deeper than controlled passion. I think. I'm not trying to insult you if you're out there PA!