posted October 25, 2008 10:34 PM         

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think i fail to see how what i have described as competition.. I'm not being rude! I see what i wrote as both parties wanting it just the same. I see it as the female arousing the male even MORE than he already was.

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It's probably lost in translation. I think it happens frequently with us. We're talking about the same thing - but we don't have the value of being in person and hearing the verbal expression/tone to get the intention. Sometimes people use different words to explain the same thing. I think that happens between us a lot.

When I think of S&M games - the darker types - they are about dominating someone. And sure, I guess there is someone in there who actually wants to be dominated. I don't like that. I do that it's humiliating. Whether it be one person wanting to humiliate or another who desires to be humiliated - for whatever reasons. I don't like that. It makes me think someone is violating someone in some deep way - it's not pleaurable - not to me. I don't find that erotic.

posted October 25, 2008 10:38 PM         

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But I think we're talking about the same thing - where two people WANT to be there. But I'm not into the power play games. Don't like that. Where it's serious competition - derivement of pleasure from overpowering someone. It's different to opening someone and giving them the safety to bloom or to trust you or to just open themselves. Different motivation. Different energy.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:38 PM         

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In all seriousness, that might be our soul connection. Through England. Through the UK somehow.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:40 PM         

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Because then it becomes about something else; it's no longer two people who are in love

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posted October 25, 2008 10:41 PM         

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Yes, I believe that completely. I've always been drawn there. Always. I look English and my parents are Greek. I should have the dark olive skin, but I don't. I'm as white as a ghost. My eyes are light. And people are always saying I sound English. Which is so truly bizarre. I'm always being asked about my "accent". Really strange.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:44 PM         

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I want to go back to the Mothership!

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posted October 25, 2008 10:44 PM         

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I suppose that's the difference between pure sexual gratification - where the agenda is to just get off - and love, where it's to share something and go to places you can't go alone.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:46 PM         

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Yes, I think that's the problem. We're not meant too, maybe. I think about this - and think - Rafe, RDJ, Jude - are we actually meant to let go, rather than find a way to get closer.

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.. and what if we can't?

posted October 25, 2008 10:46 PM         

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Sorry, I should tie that up to England. Because I think we all have a past life together - or lives together - in England/Ireland.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:49 PM         

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.. and what if we can't?

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I don't know. Because I think of that Saturn on the Nodes that keeps turning up. It has to mean something.

Actually, I'm convinced that between us all - we have one common degree - one sign, one degree - and a sabian symbol that tells us something. That's a lot of research. Do we use tropical or draconic or sidereal - or a mix or all? But I really believe that - there is one sign degree that we all have in common. It's a matter of finding it. I hope DD reads this - because I wanted to mention this to her the other day. See what she thinks too.

posted October 25, 2008 10:52 PM         

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I don't know. Because I think of that Saturn on the Nodes that keeps turning up. It has to mean something.

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What do you mean by this?

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Actually, I'm convinced that between us all - we have one common degree - one sign, one degree - and a sabian symbol that tells us something. That's a lot of research. Do we use tropical or draconic or sidereal - or a mix or all? But I really believe that - there is one sign degree that we all have in common. It's a matter of finding it. I hope DD reads this - because I wanted to mention this to her the other day. See what she thinks too.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:55 PM         

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What do you mean by this?

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I mean that there a few Saturn conjuct North Nodes between us and Rafe, RDJ, Jude, etc. I have it with RDJ where his Saturn is conjunct my NN.

posted October 25, 2008 10:55 PM         

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I think we're all bound by numerous previous lifetimes together. Not just one. Maybe one very particular one in particular where our lives and lies and deceits and desires are all interwoven. Torn between duty and desire. Each of us - in some way.

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posted October 25, 2008 10:57 PM         

Drat! and to think I really liked them!

I didn't get to meditate - a friend said she was stopping by for a cuppa, and I'm still waiting!!!!

posted October 25, 2008 10:59 PM         

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So you think we're all connected in the way we LIVED a past life?

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posted October 25, 2008 10:59 PM         

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I mean that there a few Saturn conjuct North Nodes between us and Rafe, RDJ, Jude, etc. I have it with RDJ where his Saturn is conjunct my NN.

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posted October 25, 2008 11:01 PM         

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My NN conjuncts Ralph's Saturn... weird... did you know we had that or did you just state that?

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Yes, I remembered - because I remember thinking how odd that was that both of us have that placement with someone we feel so strongly about - and wondering what it means in terms of past life, but also this lifetime. I'm sure DD has it too - with Jude - with someone. That's no coincidence. It has to mean something - significant.

posted October 25, 2008 11:03 PM         

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Yes, yes - definitely. DD and I have both seen/sensed Rafe in a position of power where he took advantage of his position. Maybe we were like sisters or one was like his wife and the others were servants - some dynamic where we were close, but couldn't help protect each other. And maybe even there were jealousies and as well. And where people had ones that they loved but couldn't be with them - because they were betrothed to others or because of class or even sex and sexuality. Women were property back then - they married whomever they were given to basically. No choice. And love is another thing.

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Hmm.. but i don't feel that way toward him, so i must not have been in that situation between the three of you.

posted October 25, 2008 11:05 PM         

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Yes, I remembered - because I remember thinking how odd that was that both of us have that placement with someone we feel so strongly about - and wondering what it means in terms of past life, but also this lifetime. I'm sure DD has it too - with Jude - with someone. That's no coincidence. It has to mean something - significant.

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posted October 25, 2008 11:07 PM         

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Who are you talking about PA, when you say that there is one sign degree we all have in common?

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posted October 25, 2008 11:10 PM         

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I checked her syn with Jude (sorry DD, don't be mad) but she doesn't have a conjunction with him. She has an opposition. Very Weird.

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Which makes her Saturn conjunct his SN. It is weird - that's so strange - the three of us, with each of them. So so strange. But no coincidence.