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Topic: GODZALA - The Empire Strikes Rafe
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meta_4
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posted November 05, 2008 10:38 PM
  
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meta - you have undeniable resilience. There is NO WAY you CANNOT get through this!!!Sorry for the double negative. In other words, you can get through this because you already have the answers at hand. Seems like you need to do some internal housekeeping!!
LOL! Thank you, love!  I just need to do some growing up. I need to do some "internal housekeeping" even if i'm not ready. The Fixed-ness in me doesn't want to let go! But ya gotta do what ya gotta do! IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 10:39 PM
Koi, I'm not sure if you answered this pages ago, but what other girls do you like? I know Jennifer, and Rachel- who else? PA and i discussed women a while ago. I'm an androgynous fan- both men and women. What do you look for in a girl (physically, sexually, mentally, emotionally, etc)? IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 10:46 PM
I think the car accident may have been caused by Mars transiting in the 1st, Jupiter in the 3rd. Driving is ruled by 3rd so maybe there was an overestimation or something overjudged - overly optimistic. Also note the opposition between n-Chiron and t-Jupiter and t-Jupiter conj your Saturn, usually you are cautious but maybe Jupiter made you gamble. Mars in 1st would give you a lot of energy and assertion, maybe even make you aggressive. Moon in 3rd would make you maybe make you emotional about a 3rd house matter- emotional driving. Am I right? IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted November 05, 2008 10:47 PM
will make some lunch and be right back!IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted November 05, 2008 10:53 PM
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I think the car accident may have been caused by Mars transiting in the 1st, Jupiter in the 3rd. Driving is ruled by 3rd so maybe there was an overestimation or something overjudged. Mars in 1st would give you a lot of energy and assertion, maybe even make you aggressive. Moon in 3rd would make you maybe make you emotional about a 3rd house matter- emotional.
Makes a lot of sense... Thanks 23. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 10:53 PM
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Maybe this is Karma. Maybe i've done something terribly wrong. I'm being serious. I really think this is punishment for something horrible that i did. I wish i knew what! I wanna apologize before a grand piano falls on me!
You're just going through a rough patch, you've got t-NN and all that junk just hovering around the IC, so there is stuff going on internally. Also things are passing over your first, adding a lot attention and focussing on yourself. quote:
You're so much wiser than i am. You're so much stronger. You've got more knowledge in you than i could ever aspire to have!
Comes with age. You'll get it one day. One day, you'll be able to calmly do things. Youth is very vibrant but very headstrong and energetic. Nerves come with age. quote:
The play i'm directing is in my hometown. I see him everytime i go down there- without fail. In fact, if we're being honest, he's the reason i took the job. Hopes of seeing him. But i never expected to see him as much as i am. Seeing him was supposed to make it easier, ya know? But it's just prolonging an inevitable ache.
You MUST divorce. You MUST let go. Things like this will push you over the edge and you will get in a bigger mess. If you can't have a relationship with the person for any reason, walk away. You MUST, You MUST, You MUST. quote:
Yes, i read what you wrote about this situation. I agree. This is a crush. However, i should tell you that i feel the momentum. I'm not being silly here, i mean this. Do you ever feel like something's building up? Like something is bound to happen? Like something is GOING to happen? I feel this unspoken momentum.
See above, otherwise, you'll have a bigger mess of kids, ex-wives and other people on your back. quote:
I've lost 20 lbs in less than 3 months (mostly of muscle, i used to bike everyday for 2 hours!)..
Sounds like love or something. quote:
It's not that i feel i have to please everyone, it's that i feel like they have nothing to offer me.
You don't have to like anyone or please anyone. If you want to be alone and have space, then do so. Feelings and moods change over time. You probably are just going through a quiet time.
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meta_4
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posted November 05, 2008 10:57 PM
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You're just going through a rough patch, you've got t-NN and all that junk just hovering around the IC, so there is stuff going on internally. Also things are passing over your first, adding a lot attention and focussing on yourself.
How do you avoid it? Is there like... a way to stop the planets? lol! IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 10:58 PM
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You MUST divorce. You MUST let go. Things like this will push you over the edge and you will get in a bigger mess. If you can't have a relationship with the person for any reason, walk away. You MUST, You MUST, You MUST.
23... It's not that easy... What's healthy isn't always better. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 10:59 PM
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Comes with age. You'll get it one day. One day, you'll be able to calmly do things. Youth is very vibrant but very headstrong and energetic. Nerves come with age.
I want it now! LOL! IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:00 PM
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Sounds like love or something.
No sh*t. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:01 PM
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You don't have to like anyone or please anyone. If you want to be alone and have space, then do so. Feelings and moods change over time. You probably are just going through a quiet time.
Thank you. I hope so. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:01 PM
You can't, you just have to hang on. Transits are about hanging on. You have Chiron on the 4th - internal, deep pain and you have Neptune in the 4th which means that everything is dreamy/hazy internally. I went through some terrible Chiron and Saturn transits a few years back, it nearly killed me but I survived and am feeling better. You just have to hang on. I know it's unsympathetic advice but there is no other way of dealing it. Life is full of challenges. You are tough, look at the grand cross (all fixed) and kite. Things change too, you won't be feeling the same in the next few years. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:04 PM
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meta_4
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posted November 05, 2008 11:05 PM
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You can't, you just have to hang on. Transits are about hanging on. You have Chiron on the 4th - internal, deep pain and you have Neptune in the 4th which means that everything is dreamy/hazy internally. I went through some terrible Chiron and Saturn transits a few years back, it nearly killed me but I survived and am feeling better.You just have to hang on. I know it's unsympathetic advice but there is no other way of dealing it. Life is full of challenges. You are tough, look at the grand cross (all fixed) and kite. Things change too, you won't be feeling the same in the next few years.
I'm just... i need relief, 23, ya know? I need a break from life. I need it to stop for a while. It's like life has knocked the wind out of me but won't stop punching. It nearly killed you? Oh. Great. Sorry, that was uncalled for. Can i ask how long it took you took get past it? IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted November 05, 2008 11:09 PM
23 - thanks for sharing IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted November 05, 2008 11:09 PM
I need karma to kick my @ss? Hmm.. i'm sorry if i'm being so thick headed. I don't mean to annoy you. Truly. I think i'm looking for answers (once again) and frustrated because no one can give them to me. I'm looking for a savior, and none of you can be it. I know that. I know that. But you're probably right. Karma kicking my @ss will honestly be the only thing that will possibly get through to me. I've got the "Don't wanna let go" disease, don't cha know.. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:10 PM
I agree with koi, 23, you're so, so strong for having done that. Especially when that person meant what he meant to you. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:12 PM
The effects are permanent because it changed the direction of my life. However, I am happy because it made me realise that the path that I was going down was wrong. Here's a chart that equates to the time of the worst period. See Chiron on the MC and Saturn on the MC? See all the squares that I had? Then I had a Saturn return soon after that.  [URL=http://g .imageshack.us/thpix.php]  [/URL] Maybe you need a break. Maybe you should just finish up your semester at uni and get out for a while. It'll probably do you good to have a gap year at your age. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:17 PM
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posted November 05, 2008 11:19 PM
23,Wow. Changed your life? Wow. I looked at the chart. Your Moon was also in the 12th- adding to the deep/serious-ness. It was just a relentless time in your life. You couldn't escape. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:19 PM
Well you're putting yourself in Karma's firing line if you do get involved. From your perspective, you might have less to lose because you are single but you are juggling with taken men with wives and children who will resent you for the rest of your life. Chiron is also transiting your IC --> opp MC, could be damaging to your public reputation. I'm getting heavy with you because you need to hear it. As for the saviour, you can only save yourself. I can't control your actions. You have a lot of fixed elements in you, you have persistence and self-control, use it for that not on vice-like grips on these relationships. IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:20 PM
(Will delete this)So this wasn't the same guy you mentioned earlier? IP: Logged |
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posted November 05, 2008 11:23 PM
Btw, Moon was transiting through my 12th for a few days. Note how Pluto was conj my n-Nep and n-Mars too. Those were very dark days. IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted November 05, 2008 11:25 PM
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I'm not sure if you answered this pages ago, but what other girls do you like?
hmmm what kind of woman? I seem to have a similar theme.... Structured cheekbones and a certain light in their eyes. Usually of caucasian appearance (I am not 100% caucasian). Is that term politically correct these days? There's always been a Virgoan quality about them. Two of the most powerful attractions have had Sun in Pisces. Of those two, one did not have any Virgoan influences, but there was a feminine/virgin/maiden quality about her (with strong Capricorn) Usually they carry themselves with a sense of dignity and have 'the girl-next-door' feel to them. Strange enough, most of them have been 5ft 9in. (I am 5ft 1.5in) All of them have been intelligent and witty, with a strong sense of social conscience/responsibilty. Of the two most powerful attractions, there was eye contact that buzzed with electricity and it would make my heart jolt.
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posted November 05, 2008 11:25 PM
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Well you're putting yourself in Karma's firing line if you do get involved. From your perspective, you might have less to lose because you are single but you are juggling with taken men with wives and children who will resent you for the rest of your life. Chiron is also transiting your IC --> opp MC, could be damaging to your public reputation. I'm getting heavy with you because you need to hear it. As for the saviour, you can only save yourself. I can't control your actions. You have a lot of fixed elements in you, you have persistence and self-control, use it for that not on vice-like grips on these relationships.
I know this needs to be said but i'm not thinking of it in terms of what anyone has to lose. It takes two to tango, 23. I can only meet them in the middle (not saying i am going to). They would have to put themselves out there as well. Which, as i know, will not happen. As it shouldn't. But that doesn't make it any easier to swallow. It doesn't make it easier to accept. And that goes for anyone- not just 18 year-olds. IP: Logged |
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