posted December 03, 2008 08:17 PM         

I've always held this ideal that we should all like each other. But I've found that some people I just don't like and it's better to be upfront with myself about that. It's too much expectation to think that you can like everyone. Doesn't mean we can't get on and be civil. And part of that may have to be not having involvement with each other.

I've really appreciated it. One from the point that it's been a good exercise in frivolity, but also, in that it's given me something that I've struggled with inside myself my entire life. I know that you can use the most perfect words and still not be understood in the way you intended. And no matter your nature or your words or actions that people will choose to think or believe about you what they will. Regardless of facts or discernment.

posted December 03, 2008 08:20 PM         

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I ordain you PeaceAngel's Equal Partners In Fun. How's that?

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Sounds perfect to me PA!

posted December 04, 2008 12:23 AM         

Re: Zala's Letter

I just read Zala's letter, well, as much as a gnu can follow.

And, I can see what she's saying that it would be hurtful if someone declared that they weren't going to read your posts to them - ie. listen to your point.

The reason for this is because there are so many untruths about me and the incidents in your posts, why would I want to read those? (Obviously, I have briefly skimmed them). There are people who don't want to know any different, and they will choose to believe those. And that's hurtful too. I didn't actually say anything bad about you in that old Godzala thread. And I certainly didn't do anything to lotus. And everything posted by PeaceAngel is the strict OPINION of PeaceAngel.

posted December 04, 2008 12:59 AM         

Please do pop in once in a while, just to bless us with your own brand of fun. Entirely selfish of me I know but there it is.

Good luck with your studies, & try not to drive the tutor insane to quickly.

posted December 04, 2008 01:02 AM         

I'm still gonna be here - just not as much. Which means, instead of 23.5 hours a day, it's going to be maybe 20 hours.

posted December 04, 2008 05:52 AM         

In all honesty, it has been YOU that has kept me coming back to LL & I would be deeply saddened by your absence.

posted December 04, 2008 05:58 AM         

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that you might be an auto net bot.

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ROFL

You've got mail.

posted December 06, 2008 12:27 PM         

I even wrote to some mods about Lotus,
trying to explain why she was upset.
It was not about Lexigrams.
One totally blew me off ignoring my explanation of Lotus. How kind.
I wondered what had upset Lotus so badly because she had briefly calmed down
and was being very sweet and loving. <3
So I went to see what had set her off...it was not me...and anyone who truly knows Lotus
would understand what made her so angry. It was then to my utter shock...
that I accidentally saw what was being said about me.
If anyone wants a reply from me...either e-mail me or befriend me at
MySpace if you are sincere and not out to gossip or give me trouble.
As PA said:

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PeaceAngel
Despite our openness here,
there is a lot of stuff that can't be and isn't said online.
Plus, behind the scenes is where the really really good stuff takes place.

LOL!

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Indeed, and cruel lies and gossip too. Good stuff...not always.
I have a pretty good idea now why PA who I do not know, nor she I...is so against me...
hello..the behind the scenes/and at another site where she is a moderator which has
a private message feature,
where people can very covertly engage in and join the vicious gossip and liars club she belongs to perhaps?
I can see no other reason for her reactions to me,
and she has claimed to know all about me..yet how could she...
unless...
well smart folks can get the picture...
of what may be really going on
"behind the scenes".
I have never done anything to her to warrant this. I do not know her.
Many of you are relatively new here. You have no to little idea why Lotus was upset,
and I for different reasons. You have no idea how many folks have stopped posting
because of the GodZala threads and rudeness at times being displayed.
I cannot fault them either...their threads might get hijacked by others, they might get teased, insulted, or hurt.
An insult even in jest hurts most folks.
But the ones having hee hee ha ha ha at others' expenses rarely if ever see that they are hurting folks.
An insult even in jest is still an insult,
and can deeply cause hurt feelings.
Example for anybody who cares to understand:
In high school I was not popular with the in crowd, cheerleaders and all.
I was popular however with the football players who knew they did not have to be all macho with me
but could talk about their problems to me, and cry and be comforted by me without being ridiculed.
Same for the large group of people the giggling uncaring disrespectful cliques made fun of and ridiculed. Oh yeah...
To the giggling gossiping gaggle of look at us, hee hee hee ha ha ha ha groups
they thought the ones they called names like;
stupid, retard, ugly, fat, retarded, 4 eyes, pimple faced freak, and so forth were laughing with them too!
Nope.
Laughing on the outside in unfounded shame and embarrassment ....
which the giggly groups thought was the "outcasts" joining in their "fun"
The ones they hurt who were laughing on the outside were crying on the inside and came to me
who understood their sorrow. Some even became suicidal over how the popular giggly groups were treating them.
Feces and porn were slipped by the giggly group into the "outcast" groups' lockers; book and gym bags were honkered on,
or p!ssed in...all a big ha ha!
And most of the teachers let it continue.
Most of the unpopular kids like me were also poor and replacing fouled on stuff done by the giggly gaggle of the popular ones,
was for these poor and or brainy unpopular kids a big hardship
to replace books and bags and clothes fouled on by the giggle gaggle.
Only he outcast kids got detention for causing trouble and for bringing porn to school...
(which they were framed for
by the giggle gaggle)
but sadly not one of the truly guilty ones...
in the giggle gaggle were ever punished.
There was an assembly once where real awards and what were supposed to be light hearted joke awards were given.
It was horrible. We who received such dubious awards such as;
ugliest legs, thickest glasses, fattest, worse dressed, brainiac maniac
(for those of us who were seen as nerds and jerks who seriously loved to read alot etc.) and so forth..
laughed as we received our "awards" ...
but OMG the tears that followed afterward by us all in secret where the giggle gaggle groups and teachers who loved
the oh so cheery gigglers and allowed that fiasco to happen....
could not ridicule and shame us further.
Some say not going along with the "flow" of ha ha insults is the ones' receiving the torment and ridicule EGO's talking.
That is totally untrue. It hurts deeply to be made fun of.
One can bury the pain but never really gets over it.
I have been the butt of it way too often,
for being a hunchback, for being partially blind,
for being not a normal looking person,
in my youth and even more so now,
for too damn many more things by giggle gaggle people....
Why a person my husband's age...
would act so unthinkingly rude...
and shocking that she takes such blatant delight...
in repeatedly being rude.
is just strange, and uncalled for,
and not kind nor spiritually evolved at all.
And being told repeatedly that one's posts are not going to be read and are not important.

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:LEXX, I don't know if you're going to give me the courtesy of reading my posts
when I have no intention of doing the same to yours.

that's too long a post to sustain my concentration.

LEXX

I didn't read your reply and I'm not going to.

I didn't read LEXX's post and I have no interest to do so.

Thanks, but I'm truly not interested in LEXX or her reply.

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My oh my how respectful, and showing effort to understand and communicate and try to get along. Yeah right...NOT.
Like I said anyone who sincerely wants to understand email and or befriend me on MySpace, please feel free to do so.
The rest go on and keep highjacking and spamming the boards, keep having your jollies.
I was not against your fun but only the insulting and ridiculing bits. Anyone who knows me knows I am far far far from a prude!
You guys are so vanilla.
I simply keep my extreme wildness to "adult" sites where it is the thing to be XXX rated....
and do not bring it here now out of respect for others and for Randall and LindaLand.
(as AG knows..I did go wild before a few years back along with others, but no ridicule,
just alot of low brow humour and refreshingly some serious sex talk too, not just a raunch fest)
I actually find the humour at GodZala often very funny! But not the ridicule and ha ha at the expense of others.
However PA has tried to get folks to believe I am against you all and the actual humour.
Nope..only against PA and her insults and total lack of respect.
bluemoon graciously started this thread to apologize and I accepted
because I felt she was just caught up in the "fun" and she was very sincere in her apology.
I am surprised even some mods are not doing that
(obeying the rules and having respect for LindaLand and Randall)
And PA's utter delight in highjacking this thread is unkind and extremely rude...
and is clearly a blatant ego trip attempt
to get her much needed attention fix at all costs..
damn anyone who gets in the way of her flagrant quest for attention.
And by the way people...
the rules she calls my rules are the forum and host rules,
which out of respect for LindaLand, Randall, and others should be followed.

OK..rant over here.

posted December 06, 2008 12:51 PM         

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PeaceAngel
Knowflake
Posts: 7157
From: Australia
Registered: May 2008
posted December 03, 2008 07:32 PM
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Nah spunky
I'm just ensuring that the thread about me which isn't even named after me, but now about me. ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME! Is still on top. Just where any Aries girl likes it.

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Is this kind of "jesting" at another's expense (even someone that you strongly dislike) really where you want to be??
I thought you had the sensitivity to realize how words like this might hurt
(even if in your own mind you are just "kidding around") -- and hurt ANYONE,
not just the person this thread was started for.

I found the whole tone of the taking over of this thread made me increasingly nauseous.
If payback was the motive, I hope all of you are done now.....

posted December 06, 2008 02:39 PM         

I want to apologize for highjacking your thread.

I guess I got carried away in the discussion / talk and forgot that this was not the appropriate place to have this talk.
We should have kept this talk in the GODZALA thread.

This is a forum, so there are different rules than in a face-to-face talk, where you can hop from subject to subject; I guess I am still learning these forum rules.

So I`m really sorry it happened and have erased most of my posts from this thread except for the ones that I think relate to the thread`s subject.

posted December 06, 2008 04:05 PM         

I`m glad you understand how one can get carried away by the moment.

Regarding the other things you said, well, I can`t have an opinion on that, as I was not present when that mess developed.
But I want to assure you that I don´t see you as a temptation to insult or ridicule.

However, I think that people with strong opinions who leave a mark on their surroundings, wether it may be healing or painful (and it is not always the same to everyone), will be talked about.
Honestly, I don´t even feel that is something bad. People will always talk about people. I talk about my colleagues with my friends, too. And about my friends with my colleagues. I talk about my family here, too.
It all depends on HOW the talks develops, and of course noone should be ridiculed, that is hurtful.
But even the interpretation when a "ridicule" starts, changes from person to person.

I only heard that BM called you "Toxic granny", is that right?
Well, it`s certainly not a nice name, but I have been called and called myself "Jekyll and Hyde", so personally I don´t feel this is such a bad faux pas. But I think there are people who are more sensitive in that area.

But as I said I can`t really have an opinion, as I wasn`t there.

posted December 06, 2008 05:00 PM         

I just want to say that I don't really want to see people's personalities censored when they're bringing levity to LL.
A gentle nudge when they go too far perhaps (and preferably done behind the scenes), but I'd prefer that the peer counseling tend
more towards the sour people than the essentially good and fun people.

posted December 06, 2008 05:24 PM         

That comment about behind the scenes had nothing to do with gossip or you. A couple of us actually do a lot astrological research behind the scenes. And the really dirty links, funnies and pics that can't be put up at LL are exchanged behind the scenes. As well as the personal talks about difficult things happening in our lives. While we have a lot of girl talk, I don't post full frontals of Jude Law at LL. That happens in the emails - it's where the real girl-talk happens and that's what that was about.

Hijacking threads. Well, maybe that's just one way of dealing with the hurtful comments and untruths that have been flung my way. I think that sometimes when people think that they are sensitive, they think that they are more sensitive than anyone else. That's not always the case and different people do things differently. I won't apologise for doing that.

Also, AG's right. I've had run-ins with people before and I've always dealt with them behind the scenes. We're both members at Psyche and any communications can easily be done through the private mail there.

I think that's enough bu11shit that we've subjected our friends and LL to. And AG's right - we're both good people and much better than this.

This is the last public correspondence I'm having about this matter with you or anyone. If you want to speak with me without an audience, you know where to find me.

We're probably both very alike - which is why we rub each other the wrong way. I've always seen that - the people who annoy you the most are the ones who reflect you the greatest in some way. We probably have lots to learn from each other.

posted December 06, 2008 05:47 PM         

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We're probably both very alike - which is why we rub each other the wrong way.
I've always seen that - the people who annoy you the most are the ones who reflect you the greatest in some way.

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