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blue moon
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posted December 02, 2008 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Lexx I am sorry that I have caused you offence and particularly that you feel that you have been ridiculed.

Maybe commenting on the lexigramming argument was unwise, however, it was hard to avoid as the spillage is here and even on Know Two Are Alike.


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posted December 02, 2008 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Apology accepted.
You were not the only one.
The toxic granny bit was also not appreciated.
I also see the thread is gone.
Too bad the other one is not gone too.
But then there are dozens I'd like to see deleted and wonder why they were not deleted.
Not just silly playing...but really mean cruel nasty bold faced attacking threads.
Godzala was tame by comparison in that respect.


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blue moon
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posted December 02, 2008 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Lexx, we are intending to be silly and have fun whilst we get through our day (or night).

I don't say anything on here I wouldn't say to someone's face. But, unfortunately, being the written word, that makes it hard to detect when my humour has gone too far.

Not that I always get it right offline either.

Thread slashing is a policy for Randall.

There's nothing I'd like to see deleted. If people want to come onto my Know Two Are Alike thread and tell me I am an "idoit" (and apparently they do) it's causes me minor irritation, but that's about it.


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posted December 02, 2008 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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PeaceAngel
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posted December 02, 2008 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I've missed something somewhere.

No doubt in the old Godzala thread. It didn't even occur to me that it had been deleted. I thought it crashed. There's more offensive stuff in the older threads than in that one. So my guess is it crashed.

But I wouldn't wish that other peoples' threads be deleted no matter how inane I may find them. Even if I (ocassionally) read a thread I don't like, I just don't reply to it. And if I don't like someone, it's simple, I just don't correspond with them.

Blue moon is right - it's hard to translate humour. But also there is the vent factor. It is a place to come and escape from certain realities. I wouldn't want to restrict anyone's rights to that. You're going to see posts you don't like, people you don't like, different opinions you don't agree with. It's part of open forum. But everyone has right to their own and their expression of them, no matter how much value (little or otherwise) anyone else places upon them.

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posted December 03, 2008 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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koiflower
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posted December 03, 2008 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Hi LEXX,

I admire your passion and devotion

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posted December 03, 2008 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
koiflower
Thank you.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message

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blue moon
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posted December 03, 2008 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
It crashed.

If it was deleted it wouldn't show up. I've deleted one thread, at Wheels request, as she posted it by mistake. That's it.

Much as we may all have strong views, the censorship policy on LL lies in the hands of Randall.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
bm

Thanks for clarifying that. It didn't make sense that it be deleted. Either way, the new one is up. If people don't like it, don't read it.

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posted December 03, 2008 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Much as we may all have strong views, the censorship policy on LL lies in the hands of Randall
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Either way, the new one is up. If people don't like it, don't read it.

Unless I am misconstruing something....those statements are not entirely true.
Threads have been deleted that were similar, and I did for the most part stay out of the Godzala ones until Lotus flipped out...and I felt I should go see what all the fuss was about.
I also stay out of GU now.
However...
Everyone should be aware of the relevant rules of conduct.
Go ahead, call me toxic granny again for pointing out rules and ethics.

Free speech is one thing but even it can and has been abused.
It is a shame that self censorship is not followed, forcing rules to be set up in lieu of common sense and manners.
I have highlighted important ones here below.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010551-19.html

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I have highlighted the ones I have seen broken.
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We owe it to LL and Randall to at least "try"
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Remember too, there are also minors on this site.

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blue moon
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posted December 03, 2008 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
This is my last comment on this topic as I am starting to get annoyed.

I saw how this all started and I can see how it is ending. It started with a not very polite intervention about lexigramming and it will be pursued and slugged out until the bitter end until people are banned, censored and sent flying from the board in tears.

The rules apply to everyone. I accept that I haven't adhered to them as rigorously as might be wise.

I accept my faults and I apologise once again for hurting your feelings, Lexx.

With that all discussion between us ends on this or any other matter.

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posted December 03, 2008 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I posted this in the latest Godzala thread and I'm just re-posting here because the Godzala threads have a tendency to crash - probably from all the visual aides. So just in case you didn't get it:


LEXX

I didn't read your reply and I'm not going to. We don't come over to your forum and threads and invade you. What was said tonight was to find out exactly your motivations and your actions and you have revealed them as anticipated.

I know that bm said in the other thread for no future correspondence between the two of you and I feel the same way about you.

I respect your thing for you. But you don't respect ours. We leave you alone. Why don't you leave us. That's all.

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posted December 03, 2008 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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LEXX

I didn't read your reply and I'm not going to.


How kind of you. OK go stick your head in the sand then.
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I respect your thing for you. But you don't respect ours. We leave you alone. Why don't you leave us. That's all.
You do NOT respect me, nor leave me alone....and make cracks about me and my Lexigramming and call me insulting names on the threads I was not even posting on (and YOU call THAT respect?????)...and did not even visit until I decided to see what Lotus was going on about.
I left you all alone on "your" thread until as I said, I thought I should take a look before making comment concerning Lotus' anger.
If you respect a person you do not go about calling names and making fun of them.
You have a very strange idea of what respect is.
I have not ridiculed or called you names.

I had nothing to do with Lotus leaving/getting banned nor the thread crash.
Nor did I write the rules of conduct.

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posted December 03, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message

blue moon
I accepted your apology.
You did not seem to be ridiculing as much as just getting caught up in the silliness of the thread and the moment.
In your case it simply took me by surprise as you have been simply WONDEFUL in your interest and contributions to Lexigram Magic.
You were even so kind as to start this thread and SINCERELY APOLOGIZE!
That is far more than some are even willing to consider.
It saddens me that you have not accepted my acceptance of your apology which you submitted more than once.
It is sad that you now choose to have nothing to do with me.
Your choice. But why? I am no longer upset with you. You were sincere in your apology.
PA continues however to go on about my Lexigramming interest again on HER personal assumed private thread on this public site...without actually mentioning my name. She doesn't have to.

Again your heartfelt apology is still accepted and very much appreciated.

And btw...Lexigramming was NOT the reason Lotus flipped out.
Lotus detests most sex talk.
Pure and simple.

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posted December 03, 2008 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I can attest that Lotus does indeed abhor sex talk. She hasn't gotten into similar states over sex talk in the past.

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posted December 03, 2008 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaspryt69     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lexx {{{{{HUGs}}}} Sorry to see the same meanness is still thriving here. I had hoped it would have been rid of by now.

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posted December 03, 2008 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
AcousticGod
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I can attest that Lotus does indeed abhor sex talk. She hasn't gotten into similar states over sex talk in the past.
LOL! Don't you mean "She HAS gotten into similar states over sex talk in the past"?
Thanks AG. You know too well that issue with Lotus also.
I only went to the Godzala thread to see what Lotus was strung out about.
Seems it was about sex pure and simple.
Heh heh..you know I do not have a problem with that topic.
Funny how PA thinks it is OK to insult my Lexigramming interest and call me names....just like Lotus did...yet she tore into Lotus for acting the same.
Now she(PA)is painting me out as the baddie even though I never insulted her interests nor ever called her names. She is now accusing me of stalking her thread and policing it. Geeez! My ONLY issue was/is the slams at me! Not the sexual and silliness of it! She has won over others to her way of thinking, painting me out as the crazy Lexigrammer and moral police and a stalker (on a public forum) to boot! Not nice at all and totally untrue.
I hope she is happy she is gaining blind fans who never bothered to get to know me...and her included.
I also know you do not take sides..not asking you too either. But thank you for verifying that Lotus hates most sex talk at LL.


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posted December 03, 2008 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
aquaspryt69
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posted December 03, 2008 12:30 PM Hey Lexx {{{{{HUGs}}}} Sorry to see the same meanness is still thriving here. I had hoped it would have been rid of by now.
Thank you aquaspryt69.{{{hugs}}}.
I have no idea why PA chose to insult my Lexigramming interest nor why she thinks it is acceptable and fun to call me toxic granny and make fun of me. I do not know her. At the risk of sounding like Lotus...It makes me wonder what previous user name PA "may have used". I find her attitude towards me strange.
I have never insulted her interests nor called her names.
Nor have I tried to turn others against her with false accusations.
Yet now, as I told AG she is painting a false picture of me, lying, calling me a stalker on what she deems to be her personal property thread...and telling folks I am the moral police. Why???????????????/
I find it uncalled for and very weird.
Yeah I am being a bit overly upset, I admit that.....
but as you and AG and a few others know...this kind of crap has happened too often...and a relative newbie like PA and a few others have little idea what has transpired to upset me so.
PA's jabs were/are just more fuel on a fire I hoped as you did......(paraphrasing your words, "Sorry to see the same meanness is still thriving here. I had hoped it would have been rid of by now.)
As....
"a fire that had finally gone out".

I am not replying on what she deems is "her" thread, but here.
She has banned me from joining in the fun if I were to choose to join in.
I will stop replying to posts concerning me from "her" thread, once they stop talking about me, and she stops lying about me and insulting me.
OK...will post replies to all that here when I get time.
Thanks again for your understanding and kindness.
It is very much appreciated.
Blessings to you!
Love
Lexx


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posted December 03, 2008 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yes! I'm surprised I made that mistake. Yeah, she was all kinds of upset over our Sex Magick thread, which you were a happy participant in.

As far as the recent stuff, I know it's rough. There's much more nuance to people than the simple face they see during an argument or dispute. I'm sure everything will be fine in time, though. If people are meant to see a bigger picture I'm sure it will happen eventually...in gentler times.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
AG! Thank you.
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Yes! I'm surprised I made that mistake. Yeah, she was all kinds of upset over our Sex Magick thread, which you were a happy participant in.
Heh heh..maybe a bit too happy at times! I can be one rather kinky sexually liberal intersex person!
I try nowadays to save my wildness for use at appropriate sites where it is the thing to do! Even posted that turkeys and naked man picture that was on the lost Godzala thread and the guys totally cracked up!LOL!
OK, enough sex talk...LOL!
Too many other threads were deleted here at LL, and I try to respect that and behave whilst here when it comes to sex talk. Me a moral police? Yeah right! Being intersexual believe me..they have no idea what wild can be! They are funny there but oh so vanilla.
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As far as the recent stuff, I know it's rough.
It is rough but only to those on the receiving end of the lies and meanness whilst the others get their ha ha jollies from being unkind.
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There's much more nuance to people than the simple face they see during an argument or dispute. I'm sure everything will be fine in time, though. If people are meant to see a bigger picture I'm sure it will happen eventually...in gentler times.
I hope so too. Several folks from the past disputes have contacted me privately and took the time to get to know me finally.
I just seem to rub some folks the wrong way for being sure of who I am, what I do. Would they badmouth a serious Astrologer? I doubt it.
Thanks again AG.
Hoping a mutual friend of mine and PA's will give PA a private talking to and ask her to back off and recant the falsehoods she has/is spreading about me....especially to gullible newbies who have no idea what is going on.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I`m not exactly a newbie, but I don`t understand what is going on.

How did PA insult you, LEXX?
I admit I haven`T been an avid reader of the last crashed Godzala thread, but so far I have found PA as being pretty tolerant and open towards others and their opinions, even though she of course has her own opinion, too.

But this can`t be a matter of opposing opinions, can it?`

I`m really lost here.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
don't feel banned LEXX , you can join in and crack jokes over there at any time. It takes time to get to know people. I really hate it you got involved and things were said about lexigramming. I do indeed think the whole thing got out of hand. Sometimes people in the astro forum argue about certain points they deem important and some say are insgnificant, but it never should get personal. Heated discussions can happen without getting personal or disrespectful. We sometimes forget that. I feel sorry for lotus as defensive as she can be, she needs love and she also has a VERY kind side and tender heart belive it or not, it is true.. and she IS a gifted reader. I have no idea what she was talking about certain people having more than one screen name, maybe it is true, I don't know, and I don't know why. The last thing I want is for you to be hurt. I want you know that I would never ridicule you, your passion for words, or anything about your life, I value you as a person way too much to ever do that.

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posted December 03, 2008 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
that turkey with the guy picture WAS very funny.

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