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posted December 22, 2008 10:09 AM         

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I think that's the thing - that people feel so afraid or insecure that they just want that assurance before they leap in or commit. But the truth is that you have to evolve those feelings of security through interacting with people. You can't say oh, our synastry is perfect, therefore, it's going to be perfect. It doesn't work that way. Where has that person been? Where are they up to in their life right now? How did their last relationship colour their feelings about being in this one or committing to another one at all? The questions and possibilities are endless.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:12 AM         

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Srsly? A stone giving you butterflies? I guess I'm the kind of person who has hard to get butterflies.
But... aren't you str8?

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Don't talk to her.

What! You mean you don't get butterflies when you look at rocks. What's wrong with you! Weirdo. I get butterflies looking at butterflies.

Oh, DD - we jest. Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. You know I love you.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:16 AM         

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Yes, it has to be a great kiss though. They have to be connected. When I watch a movie and the kiss is terrible, I cringe. But give me a really stellar kiss and I'm onto the rewind button and swooning.

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Actually, to my surprise, it wasn't a great kiss!! It was a middle-aged, straight, black, chubby couple that did the kissing (after a long line of hot lesbian kisses and the rest) and there it was, that moment, when I thought to myself this is it, this is what I want!

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posted December 22, 2008 10:20 AM         

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What! You mean you don't get butterflies when you look at rocks. What's wrong with you! Weirdo. I get butterflies looking at butterflies.

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That's what I mean. I'm an insensitive person, I know, but insensitive people need lovin' too!!

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posted December 22, 2008 10:21 AM         

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PA,

there are many ways to interprete an astrological symbol or aspect, but not endless ways. You can definitely see the energy pattern between two people, but how it plays out in ACTION, that is a different thing.

Izo,

"But... aren't you str8?"
Most of the time, yes. But I`m with Keanu Reeves on this one. Today I am feeling pretty straight, but who could say what would be in 10 years from now? LOL

No seriously, I think what gives ME butterflies is the feeling of LOVE that is transported through the screen in a good kiss, and it`s usually not so important if those are man and woman, two men or two women.
Even seeing a mother with her child can make me melt inside.
But I guess we are talking about a different set of butterflies here.

I agree though, that there are SOME scenes on film that are really sensual and erotic, and strangely enough, those scenes always have a man in them. lol

Ah don`t listen to me, I am talking and rambling on, but in fact I only see a certain stage-scene inside my mind, with a slender darkhaired man whose voice alone send the butterflies flying in my stomach right now. lol
I know this will pass again, but for now I like it as it is.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:24 AM         

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PA,

so THIS is your story?

What shall I think of that? Turning against me now?
Is that the reason you don`t read my mails anymore? :sniffs:

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posted December 22, 2008 10:27 AM         

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What shall I think of that? Turning against me now?
Is that the reason you don`t read my mails anymore? :sniffs:

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What are you sniffing? Glue? Nail polish remover? Something that requires you carry a very special little spoon around your neck?

Oh, I don't return your mails. You don't post on my Happy Birthday Rafe thread. Geez! Touchy.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:30 AM         

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I think that's the thing - that people feel so afraid or insecure that they just want that assurance before they leap in or commit. But the truth is that you have to evolve those feelings of security through interacting with people. You can't say oh, our synastry is perfect, therefore, it's going to be perfect.

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You're right. But I don't think that all soulmate searchers are insecure. I know I am, but some people just want a life-altering, earth-shattering, evolutionary love experience. I don't see nothing wrong in that.
I just think it has to do with that human need to transcend the earth plane, be it through love, art, spirituality or dreams. We all have our poison.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:33 AM         

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Art.

I choose my poison.
Theatre. Art. Music. Very heady stuff.
Endlessly fascinating. Unbreakable addiction. For me at least.
You know that you are REALLY addicted, if you do not even want to break the addiction.

I think I should go now and get some presents for christmas.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:33 AM         

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There was a happy birthday Rafe thread???? Ohmigosh!
So sorry I missed it!

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posted December 22, 2008 10:41 AM         

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You know that you are REALLY addicted, if you do not even want to break the addiction.

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Right... *sigh* But I think sooner or later, you'll get an epiphany and say "no more!! this is where it ends, right now". Or am I too delusional to think so?

Happy present hunting! And Merry Christmas to you, if we don't get to talk again until then!

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posted December 22, 2008 10:47 AM         

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Yes, I think you're right about people desiring that earth shattering experience. It concerns me though that some people may miss the opportunity to experience that because they won't give someone a chance because the synastry sucks. I think people dismiss potential partners based on their astro interprets and could miss someone that they could make a great life with because it's not astrologically ideal or it doesn't fit with Magi Astrology's soulmate rules. You know? I think if you meet someone and that enormous connection/dynamic is there - you just know it inside yourself - you can feel those heights. Whether you are soulmates or not and how it shows in your natal or synastry charts - why should that really be significant. If astrology can give you a head-up on how you work together and what you are each like - that's what you need - the rest you can work through.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:52 AM         

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Right... *sigh* But I think sooner or later, you'll get an epiphany and say "no more!! this is where it ends, right now". Or am I too delusional to think so?

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I suppose it comes down to how seriously you take it. What your intent is. If it's for fun - it's a different energy and expectation. But even that can tire too. A break is always good. You renew and the thing you're returning to has a sense of newness and freshness about it.

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posted December 22, 2008 10:55 AM         

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Oh, I so love that. There is great beauty and idealism and romanticism in that. Music is where I lose and find myself. The rest of it happens in my head. I wouldn't change that. I think you can learn a lot from that space - gain a lot from it - as much as experiencing it in material form. It doesn't have to be limited. And the thing with imagination is that there are no rules or limits so you can take yourself where you can't or wouldn't in day-to-day existence. It's valuable.

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posted December 22, 2008 11:20 AM         

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I agree with you. I think you have a healthy attitude towards astrology. But I believe in the individual's right to slam his/her head against the wall.

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It concerns me though that some people may miss the opportunity to experience that because they won't give someone a chance because the synastry sucks. I think people dismiss potential partners based on their astro interprets and could miss someone that they could make a great life with because it's not astrologically ideal or it doesn't fit with Magi Astrology's soulmate rules. You know?

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Yeah. But as shallow as it may seem to select a partner based on astrology, so it is if you base it on race, body shape, hair colour, number of previous partners, career, money, books they read etc. If a person gets those butterflies by knowing their potential partner is a Leo and they have an exact Mars-Venus conjunction and another by liking the same movies... who am I to judge which criteria is best? I'm not the one living their life.
I know where you're coming from and I know your intentions are good, but I simply believe we should give people the opportunity to make mistakes, because they learn volumes from them, and they DO have a point. That's all.

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posted December 22, 2008 11:27 AM         

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Introspection is my poison. I'm so wrapped up in myself, there's no escaping from it. And, of course, art, music, films, love, spirituality are all causes for introspection .

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posted December 22, 2008 01:10 PM         

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Soul-love is not just about romantic or sexual love

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It is not even just about mates, but can be anyone, any societal or biological connection. Any age, gender.....
it is a connection which transcends all, and one knows and feels it without doubt. It just is.

OK...on another note, some rocks, many things in nature do thrill me unto the point of butterflies.

Kisses....
Torchwood....Jack....
and....
The kiss when Portia finally accepts Andrew
in Bicentennial Man. Ah such ecstasy!

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