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Topic: People are destroying the word "soulmate"
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writesomething Knowflake Posts: 2687 From: meet me in montauk Registered: May 2006
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posted January 17, 2009 04:59 PM
I love the idea of what soulmate means but I think people are destroying it. I dont want to cringe everytime I hear the word, but it also feels impossible not to. I guess it just seems to me everyone always feels like theyve found their soulmate(when they really havent)..I feel conflicted about this topic. I wish people wouldn't use the word lightly.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Moderator Posts: 8032 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2004
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posted January 17, 2009 05:11 PM
I hear ya, write.....And I wish that people wouldn't view "Finding Your Soul Mate" as their top priority, their #1 mission in Life, the reason why they're here..... IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 5675 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted January 17, 2009 05:11 PM
To be brutally honest there is little conflict of feeling from my chair.Out in the real world the expression tends to get used in the context of 40 years of marriage not the latest two-month fling. Netiher am I convinced that it is something that can be pinpointed by a Sextile between two attractively named Asteroids. If that offends anybody, I do apologise, etc, etc. Has anyone noticed the curse of LL? It reminds me of the curse of Hello. But here it seems to follow over-mention of the fantastic new partner/soulmate/twinflame/twinsoul. Don't believe me? Watch and see. reference for those who haven't heard of the Curse of Hello http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/the-curse-of-hello-824875.html?r=RSS IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2343 From: Florida for now Registered: Sep 2008
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posted January 17, 2009 05:12 PM
I completely agree with you, writesomething. It's making me cringe, alongside the word 'psychic'. I know that we all have a number of 'soulmates' in our lives to deal with, and whether or not those relationships become something else is a completely different story. I know what the connection feels like, and I've had plenty of them in different forms: friends, lovers, family, even strangers who crossed paths with me and imparted wisdom. Part of me loves the *idea* of it being this fixed, stable thing that lasts and lasts...but another part of me recognizes that life isn't perfect, and who knows what's going to be demanded of me. Maybe I outgrow this person, or they outgrow me...are we still, then, 'soulmates'? I don't think it's the word itself that's a problem, it's the association and context. Too much baggage added on to it, trying to force it and conform it into this static state of being which is neither realistic nor helpful. We get to write a script about it, when I think the reality is that the term soulmate is highly relative, so how can it be so narrowly defined? We're constantly changing, evolving (well...hopefully LOL), so the state of being keeps changing too, and becoming redefined. It's a thing alive and vibrating and pulsing, and how can that just rest on a couple of words....doesn't even seem profound enough for me. And Blue Moon makes a good point - I mean, you're with someone for a long time...are you thinking that infernal term 'soulmate' all the time? It's just not the way it works, even though I cherish the idea in and of itself. It's lovely and romantic and yet so very skewed. I look at asteroids with everyone. I have those connections with a lot of people. I refuse to believe that a conjunction is going to indicate my bond to another human being, that feels extremely cold and calculating to me. I want to FEEL the damn connection, not read about it and then expect the other to play out the script of this connection. If I offend I am sorry...I am just a little tired of the whole thing. I've been burned alive by passion and love so many times, and I've felt deep resonance and bonds with another human being in my life, and I think whatever THAT is, is beyond terminology. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2343 From: Florida for now Registered: Sep 2008
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posted January 17, 2009 05:28 PM
Sorry if I came on a little too insanely there....really hope I did not offend IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 5675 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted January 17, 2009 05:45 PM
It's only going to offend someone who needs your wise counsel. I liked your soul mate description. The presumption that this going to be attached to a romantic relationship that is sure to last happily ever after is neither necessarily true nor helpful. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 9323 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted January 17, 2009 11:14 PM
Totally agreed.IP: Logged |
Got Gemini? Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: Mercury Registered: Jul 2007
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posted January 18, 2009 08:49 PM
Well said MVM!!! I totally agree. I'm to the point now that I don't even look at synastries seriously anymore with people whom I've just met or haven't formed a serious bond yet. Now, I do look at it briefly and very superficially, but I don't get that deep into them anymore. I've said it many times before, all the exact conjunctions, trines, sextiles, and whatever other harmonious aspect you can think of that you may have with another person doesn't guarantee anything. We run these synastries and see all these great connections and are absolutely affected by that. If the synastry is bad, a lot of people shy away from that other person and if the synastry is good, it's like we idealize the synastry. Like you said, we expect the relationship to play out according to the synastry. And if it doesn't, well, you know the rest.I don't think we should take a serious look at the synastry you have with your SO until the relationship is already well established. The only exception to this rule that I can see is if you can remain completely unbiased when looking at your own synastry. IP: Logged |
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1853 From: mumbai,india and San Jose Registered: Nov 2006
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posted January 19, 2009 08:26 AM
Totally agreed.Our oversoul sends people into our life in response to what our needs are , so we can grow as per our evolutionary plans. In that sense all our closest relationships, some of which carry on from previous lives as family and friends are soulmate ones. Our oversoul family comprises of 144 souls, they are all part of our core frequency and thus soulmates, just as there will be souls from other oversoul families who might be on a close frequency to our soulpersonality. The original soulflame that emanates from our Oversouls is too powerful to be held in a single body, it splits so as to be harboured across timelines and lifelines into different bodies. However , as and when we enter a new phase of self development we consciously or subconsciously attract souls that can trigger us onto our path. Every person in our life in any given moment is the perfect mirror of what we are. Inside reflects outside. Those who release layers of programming and mental and psychological kinks and issues, ground themselves into their Oversouls. Then they first attract any souls that have karma with them that needs to be released and patterns to be eliminated. As we get closer to our original essence we attract other souls from our Oversoul family. And IF we have a twinsoul or twin flame AND we have reached the point of not needing anyone to complete ourselves, thats when we are united with them. All of this is a carefully synchronised and planned course of soul evolution charted for us by our Oversouls , all we can do is take it one step at a time and walk each step with faith and love. And, for those who obsess about finding soulmates without finding themselves - they only attract people with the same or complementary issues as themselves - and even THAT can feel like soulmates. It is only by being free of the need for any person to fill a void in our lives , whether parental or romantic can we hope to have a relationship that has a modicum of our soul consciousness in it. Most relationships starting from our parents onwards , unfortunately are a matter of common mind patterns , like attracts like. The best way to know who you are is to take a long hard look at your parents and OS and your interaction with them - that alone can give enough material to process and refine.
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: ohio Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 19, 2009 10:54 AM
One ticket for this bandwagon, please!IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: ohio Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 19, 2009 03:13 PM
Also, I don't remember where I read this-- here, a book, online-- so forgive me if the info is yours and I'm not crediting that, BUT!!! one thing I read suggested that all the people we feel cozy, strong connections with are earth mates; people we have shared past lives with and have reconnected with in this lifetime. A soul mate relationship is going to more challenging because you will be stretched further than you thought you could go, face things you never thought you could deal with, and, in general, be pushed beyond your (known) limits. I wish I could find it because it was described very nicely.Your soulmate, in this model, is really someone who truly helps you evolve, not just become better at what you're already pretty good at. I think it even went on to say that a true soul-mate relationship is likely to feel antagonistic at times, and not warm and cozy at all until we learn the things we need to learn. Or I may be combining articles. In any case, an interesting theory to ponder. IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: ohio Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 19, 2009 03:15 PM
On re-reading that, I gave a pretty crappy description. It was one of the best theories I'd read so far, so I'm going to try to find it for you guys.IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 2508 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 03:34 PM
Agreed- to the 3rd power IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2863 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 04:32 PM
Why do most people complicate things? If you click you click! Go with it and forget all the new age hype about it all already! Stop over thinking it and over analyzing it and attaching all kinds of psuedo dogma to it. Just be yourselves and let love happen!
------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2343 From: Florida for now Registered: Sep 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 04:35 PM
Amen to that, LEXX !!!! IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2863 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 05:59 PM
MyVirgoMask Thank you! Who is our best mate? I think it can also be different for different years in our lives. Yes...one love for life is a beautiful concept, but is it for all people very realistic? What about Mr./Ms "right for right now"? My first ex was older and right at that time of my life. My second was slightly younger than my current husband, but again, the right mate for that time in my life. Both are now with women more suited to "where they are psychologically" in their lives now. In fact...the moment the woman I KNEW ex#2 secretly pined for became free...I subtly brought them together. They married each other some 11 years ago and seem very happy! Both my ex#2 and current spouse were not even born when I had my first teenage kiss. Both were only 12 years old when my only child via ex#1 was born. In relationships of the mate types, remember...a great match may not even be born yet for some! So..take love where you find it...connect with someone if it feels right for now.... Don't worry about if it will last or not.... the dynamics often carry far too many variables and some people change...and some do not. To love! ------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 5675 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted January 19, 2009 06:08 PM
quote: Why do most people complicate things? If you click you click!
That should go up in neon.
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LEXX Moderator Posts: 2863 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 07:09 PM
quote: That should go up in neon.
OK ------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: ohio Registered: Aug 2004
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posted January 19, 2009 08:01 PM
I've been seeing some cool things you've been making, LEXX. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2863 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted January 19, 2009 08:48 PM
Thank you! ------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2863 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Jan 2008
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posted February 04, 2009 08:04 PM
I know I have posted this elsewhere....And it is not only about romantic interests, but friends/family too. When you find that right partner/or connection. It is like coming home to someone you have known forever. It is so right that, There is not doubt, no question, It just is. ------------------ Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, it's about learning to dance in the rain. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion Knowflake Posts: 1589 From: ann arbor mi Registered: Apr 2008
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posted February 08, 2009 11:08 AM
bonus points to everyone who posted. plus i highly doubt people meet as many soulmates as one per month. c'mon. i picture a line in the driveway, soulmates please line up to the left. dismissed, next, dismissed, next. extremely overused word. people grow things change, connected feelings fluxuate. i mean, yes, there are soulmate connections, but i highly doubt every tom dick or hairy we decide to spend time with is a soulmate. i have been wrong in the past about what is special, so i am certainly not coming off as all knowing, but it should be special and special life changing relationships come maybe a very few times in a life, not semi-monthly soulmate connections. sorry, but that is how i feel about it.
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Dulce Luna Knowflake Posts: 4855 From: The Asylum Registered: Mar 2006
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posted February 08, 2009 11:22 AM
I agree wholeheartedly with this thread. I would like to jump this bandwagon as well because I believe in living your life without worrying about making an 'earth shattering' connection with someone. And like MVM said, I'd rather meet the person first before the chart instead of the other way around. IP: Logged |