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Topic: love-child spawn of GODZALA
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koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 04:58 AM
Is it time to say good night to you PA? IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 04:59 AM
No - not yet koi. Not yet. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:01 AM
Before you disappear - those fires are really bad. Enough to bring tears to my eyes. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:06 AM
I heard a news update a little while ago where they said that if people are caught and charged with lighting the fires that may also be charged with murder.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:09 AM
Absolutely - I hope so. Any fire that's lit is potential murder and should be considered as a plot to murder.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:10 AM
We back onto bush. Tonight my partner and I talked about updating our Fire Plan.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:11 AM
The thing about witnessing the tragedy of others is that it makes you grateful for where you and what you have. Kind of selfish in the sense that - while that's understandable - in an ideal situation, you'd have that gratitude to begin with. You know? Puts everything in perspective.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:11 AM
Any deliberately lit bush fire is gauranteed to kill wildlife - that's an act of mass murder.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:13 AM
That was my first thought too - about the wildlife. People can relocate and pick up and and do things, just because you have to - but the animals - that's something else.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:14 AM
quote: Puts everything in perspective.
It does indeed. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:17 AM
And this place is meant to be a sactuary from the cares of the world. A good place to talk about them. But also an escape.IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1851 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:18 AM
To end my soap box rant of this sad topic.... I have no sympathy for anyone who does this. I don't care that it's a compulsion like smoking and gambling. That person needs to be removed away from others for good. Who cares about their rehab. Their victims have a lifelong sentence, or no life at all.IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 3601 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 07:07 AM
I'm off to bed too. Well, things to do before then. But they won't get done with me sitting here. So, goodnight and good day to everyone. First day of studies tomorrow - big day. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 07:32 AM
Goodnight, PA.Have agood first day of studies. Koi,
that is really really sad, what happened there. And to think someone deliberately lit it, or even was just careless - no excuse for that! IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 07:51 AM
BTW regarding horaries:the "other", if not specified as a friend or brother or short affair, is always in the 7th house. I do think a love affair could be found in 5th house, too. But that is just a personal opinion. Also, usually the querent`s significator`s are the ruler of ASC and Moon, the quesited significator is the ruler of the house in question.
I know that NIna Gryphon uses Sun for a man, and Venus for a woman, too. But that is a changing of traditional horarie`s law. The horary only gives information about the question asked, but nothing else. And so only those planets and houses matter, which are involved in that question. All others are to be disregarded. Example: That beautiful Mars-Jupiter-conjunction doesn`t mean anything for the question, if neither Mars nor Jupiter are ruling the 1st or 7th house, or are being aspected by Moon.
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 08:21 AM
Spunky, your horary:
Venus and Mars on the ASC-DSC-axis; the nature of the question is reflected, it`s clear that question deals with relationships.
You are Venus and Moon; he is Mars.
Venus is in Aries in 11th house. That means Venus is in the sign, that is ruled by his significator, so you are ruled by him. You seem to be very attracted to him. But Venus is in fall, that means you`re too weak to do something about it. Mars, him, falls in your 9th house - is he from overseas? A teacher? Now, your other significator is Moon in Cancer in its own sign, so currently that is a sign of strength, but soon this will change, when Moon changes signs. If he is also signified by Sun, then it means, that your interest may even increase, as Moon changes into his sign.
Moon is in the triplicity and fall of Mars. That means you have some very mixed feelings. ON the one hand you are attracted, but maybe do not want to admit your feelings, or there is some undercurrent. Mars is in Aquarius, in the face of Moon; that is about the weakest form of attraction, more a friendship vibe. It`s also in the face of Venus, so there is attraction from his side, but not as strong as from your side.
Venus falls into his 5th house, so maybe he is interested in pursuing a romance with you or just having a good time. A contact through, with or because of children may also be possible. Now, Venus and Mars are sextile, BUT that is a separating aspect. So the harmonious contact has been in the past.
Moon is void of course, so that usually means No, but since being in cancer a very clear Maybe. So, what I see is that there is interest on both sides and harmonious feelings, but maybe too little opportunity to act on it. But then again in BM`S case the mutual reception was enough to make it come true. But in her case the mutual reception was stronger like in this case here. Sorry. And I hope I will be wrong.
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 08:27 AM
Meta,actually your friend`s horary is pretty different. That is because in horary there is the greatest emphasis on the ASC. I was a bit surprised to see the Virgo-Pisces-axis on the ASC-DSC. Usually a horary chart should reflect the nature of the question and I wouldn`t have associated Virgo-Pisces with relationships. Unless one of them has their ASC in Virgo or Pisces, or Venus or Mars of course. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 09:20 AM
Meta,your friend is Mercury and Moon. her interest is Jupiter (and possibly Saturn, if we put him into 5th house). Mercury is in Capricorn, the fall of Jupiter. That is weird, cause this usually indicates, that Mercury is not into Jupiter! But maybe she`s not into him as a long term relationship partner? CAuse we also see that Capricorn is the sign on the cusp of the 5th house. So maybe she`s more interested him on a purely romantic, maybe even creative level, without any long lasting potential? His significator, Jupiter, falls in the 5th house, so that would emphasise her romantic feelings for him. Moon is in Cancer - Jupiter is exalted in Cancer! That is the strongest attraction possible! So I guess, on an emotional level, she is VERY much into him. Moon and Mercury have just passed an oppositions; couple that with the mixed signs of attraction / not attraction. She must feel completely torn apart. Moon soon will change into the sign of Leo. There she will be in the triplicity of Jupiter, still a sign of very strong attraction, but with even less power to act (in Cancer Moon was stronger herself). His significator, Jupiter is in AQuarius and therefore in the triplicity of Mercury and in the face of Moon. So, he is also very much attracted to her.
If we take Saturn as his significator, it of course becomes even more pronounced. Being in the sign, that represents her, he would be totally attracted to her. But this SAturn is retograde - he hesitates, maybe even withdraws. Moon, her significator is in his 5th house, and Mercury, her other significator is in his 11th house, so he is also interested in a romantic friendship. There have been some nice contacts, but they are in the past. Mercury sextiles DSC though, so that could be a pointer that there indeed will something happen. But applying common sense, I`d also say it is better to wait untill the situation is being clarified. I mean both of them are in relationships!
Also, if he is Saturn, then he falls into her 12th house, which would definitely indicate secrets. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 09:35 AM
Funny, I just realized,tomorrow`s fullmoon will be conjunct my Moon. Actually it will be in the middle between my Moon on 17° Aquarius and my Psyche on 24° Aquarius. And my Draco Uranus is on 21° Aquarius, too. lol IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 782 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 02:04 PM
PA, quote: I just think/feel that can be quite violating to a soul that's not ready to be revealed. People have walls for reasons. They keep people safe as equally as they imprison them.
No, this is not rubbish. You're just trying to help. And you know, in all honesty, i don't think i've ever thought of "peeling back layers" as invading. But i understand that it can be. Thank you. And if i have ever done this to you, or anyone here, i am sorry. I never do it intentionally. IP: Logged |
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posted February 08, 2009 02:12 PM
Meta,speaking for me, you never did that, never "violated" me in any way. Whatever you peeled away from my soul - you had the absolute permission to do that. So don`t worry. At least not about me. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 782 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 02:18 PM
Thanks DD. And 10 more Thank You-s for the horary help. It's very appreciated. I just have to decide what to tell her now, lol! As her "astrologer" i don't think it's fair to keep things from her... but as her friend... well, yeah.. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 782 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 02:19 PM
Thank you for your help, BM. Merci beaucoup, cherie! IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 782 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 02:30 PM
BM, quote: But is that the Moon Void of Course? I'd go with saying nothing to your friend on that basis.
Why? Is Moon Void of Course bad? EDIT: Nevermind. Read about it... IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 02:49 PM
Now I need your help concerning a horary.The question is: Shall I leave LL? The question is reflected through the Virgo-Pisces axis - it`s about service and spirituality.
I am represented by Mercury in Capricorn at the cusp of the 5th house and by Moon in Leo in 11th house. But what house represents LL? Well, the aspects of the Moon seem to imply that. She sits exactly on the SN, which to many horaries is an "ill sign". Also, SN representing the past - maybe my time here should belong to the past. Also, even though Moon had a sextile to Venus it also had oppositions to Mars, as ruler of the 3rd house (communication) and 8th house and Jupiter, ruler of 4th house (the house of end of all matters) and also ruler of 7th house (the other). Do you think LL is represented by the 7th house, as this is also signifying other people, when you don`t know in w hich category they fit? The last aspect of Moon will be an opposition to Sun, the separation aspect. Sun is in its fall but in a strong house, while Moon (me) is peregrine (sign and hosue), so I guess Sun would be stronger. Sun rules the 12th house of secrets and enemies. So I guess even without knowing what house represents LL, the answer to that question is Yes. But I certainly won`t leave without my knowledge. EDIT: There is just one thing. Let`s say we find LL in 7th house. My significator Mercury is in Capricorn, in the fall of Jupiter - I really do not like LL at the moment. Moon is in Leo though, in the triplicity of Jupiter; so on an emotional level I love it very much. LL would be signified by Jupiter, which falls in Aquarius, the triplicity of Mercury, so LL likes me quite a bit, at least my intellect (Mercury).
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