posted March 27, 2009 01:36 PM         

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And wish bearded women were socially acceptable.

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I love Lexx for these kind of comments. It really gets to the core issue.

It's someone else's problem, their limitations, not the person sat there just looking a certain way just because they do.

From my perspective in opening the thread, I it annoys me if I have to point out that being attractive to men just isn't one of my life's priorites.

If I am sitting in a meeting as an invited particpant, I assume that is so I contribute something sensible and pithy. Not to look ornamental.

Every Olympics I get to say: she's there to compete, not look pretty.

*rant* etc.

posted March 27, 2009 01:55 PM         

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I mean, what are they afraid of? Are they afraid ugly is catching? Or what others will think?

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There are a couple fellas at my work that intrigue me – one is short and bald, with those coke-bottle glasses you had, Lexx. The other is scruffy, also bespectacled, and has a long braid (FPOAT, to those in the know ) These two will never appear on the cover or even in the pages of GQ, nor will they ever be displayed in a Godzala thread. But there’s something about both of them that’s so magnetic that you don’t even see the outside, and nothing seems more important when in their presence than discovering what their insides are made of and whether those discoveries jive with and enhance the vibe they give off…..

blue ~

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there does seem to be men about who kid themselves that being attractive to men is a high priority in women's lives. Maybe it is to some, but it isn't in mine.

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posted March 27, 2009 02:31 PM         

Zala!
I love what you wrote!
I know what you mean!

As for beauty...
My husband gave me the best compliment ever when we first met (and he still repeats it quite often!)..
he said:
"I love you for your mind"
I am so very fortunate he could see beyond my looks and disabilities, and size, and gender ambiguity.
I am truly blessed!
As to physically attractive...this body is a mess. However, whilst making love, what one's body looks like does not matter when the love is soul deep.
The brain is the sexiest organ in one's body!
Personality and love rules, not the body appearance!
The move "Shallow Hal" illustrated that in a way. A few too many fat stereotypings/fat visual jokes, but was generally a positive message movie nevertheless about the ability of true love to transcend the physical attractions.

posted March 27, 2009 10:42 PM         

Once upon a time there was a prince who met very beautiful young
girl. He visited her house to see her but she was very chaste. The
prince wanted to marry this beautiful girl but she didn't want to
marry him. So she said to the prince, "Alright, you want to marry
me, you are attracted by my beauty, so I will distil my beauty in
the next ten days, I will distil my beauty into liquid form and
then you can come and see this distilled form of my beauty." So
the prince said, "Alright." Then she said, "If you still want to
take me as your wife then you can take me." The prince replied,
"Alright, that's fine, I'll come back in ten days and certainly
I'll take you as my wife my beautiful young maiden."

As soon he left the beautiful young girl started to take very
strong purgatives, medicine which would cause her to vomit and
pass stool. She kept all the vomit and stool in a big pot. She
didn't eat anything, she was simply passing stool and vomiting, so
within ten days her whole beautiful body was destroyed. She was a
grey colour, she was very skinny, very weak, you couldn't
recognize her as the same person.

After ten days the prince came back to visit the beautiful girl.
She opened the door for him. When the prince saw her he said, "I
have come to see one very beautiful lady who I am about to marry."
So the girl said, "I am that beautiful young lady." He replied,
"No it isn't true. How could it be possible?" She said, "Yes I am
that beautiful young lady, I have distilled my beauty, come and
see it." The prince thought, "This will be interesting." She took
him to the place where she was keeping the big pot containing all
of her stool, vomit and urine and she said, "Here is my beauty."

This is the story of liquid beauty, and it is a fact. That is
actually the beauty of the material body, it's simply a bag of
pus, stool, urine, blood, mucus, horrible things. And we are just
attached to the skin and as soon as the skin is no longer
beautiful we are not attracted any more.

This is why in Western society, which is simply going on the basis
of this "skin disease," there are so many divorces and so many
marriages. A man is being attracted to a woman on the basis of the
skin. He thinks, "Oh, here is a very nice woman. She has very nice
hair, a very beautiful complexion, a very nice bodily structure.
She is a very beautiful woman." The woman is thinking in the same
way, "This is a very handsome man, he is very strong, very
beautiful, a very attractive man." Then they come together and for
a short time enjoy sex life and soon there is some discrepancy in
the sex life, some difficulty, so they say, "I'm sorry darling
it's just not working any more, the magic is not in our
relationship any more. I have to go and find somebody else." Then
they have a divorce.

Everything is based on the skin, and the skin is temporary. We can
never be satisfied, we can never be happy with a relationship
based on the skin only because our skin is a very temporary thing.
A beautiful girl is beautiful for a few years only, young girls
sixteen, seventeen are very beautiful, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-
two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, then finished. She's
not beautiful any more. So this is a fleeting moment only. It's
the same with a man, a man is beautiful, sixteen, seventeen,
eighteen, nineteen then the beauty is gone.

If we are attracted by the skin only, the beauty of the skin, we
are bound to be dissatisfied because the person, I, the self, I am
different from the body. Krishna describes in another verse in
Bhagavad-gita:

dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara
tatha dehantara-praptir dhiras tatra na muhyati

Here Krishna says the soul, even in this life, is changing bodies.
In the beginning we have a child's body, then we get a boy's body,
then a man's body then we get an old man's body, so the time of
death is simply another change of body. A self-realized soul can
understand this, he can see this. This is a fact. Our bodies are
always changing. You can see. No one can argue with this. It's
simply a statement of a very plain fact. I have this man's body
now, previously I had a boy's body, prior to that I had a child's
body and before that a babies body. They are all different bodies.
I can see, my parents have the pictures and they can show you I
had these different bodies. Now those bodies have gone. Now I have
this man's body and in due course it will also be finished and
I'll have an old man's body and ultimately that old mans body will
be gone and I will be taken away to another body at the time of
death.

posted March 27, 2009 11:00 PM         

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A beautiful girl is beautiful for a few years only, young girls
sixteen, seventeen are very beautiful, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-
two, twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, then finished. She's
not beautiful any more. So this is a fleeting moment only. It's
the same with a man, a man is beautiful, sixteen, seventeen,
eighteen, nineteen then the beauty is gone.

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posted March 27, 2009 11:09 PM         

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I've seen some downright adorable 90 year-olds myself

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posted March 27, 2009 11:25 PM         

Peter O'Toole
2 August 1932

Tim Curry
19 April 1946

David Bowie
8 January 1947

posted March 27, 2009 11:26 PM         

Arlo Guthrie
July 10, 1947

Frank Langella
January 1, 1938

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posted March 27, 2009 11:32 PM         

I bet he wears his kilt traditional style!