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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 29, 2009 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Oh man, I forgot about that stellium LOL!

I don't get that kind of stuff so much....well, maybe I am a little bit now in my writing workshop. I'm in a course where we all kind of do round table discussion and critique about writing and get instructor feedback/critique and I just got rave reviews from my teacher (which means a lot to me since I've been in a creative slump for like 3 years now). It's not like anyone in the course is being blatantly mean or anything, but right after the review I got, we had an online chat and the second I joined the other writers seemed kinda distant and got offline right away and left me there alone online lol.
Maybe I am being paranoid, I have no idea.
It's not really bothering me that much. I try not to let it. I use it for fuel to do other stuff (when I am not on here LOL)

I kind of do the whole catalyst thing without realizing it sometimes....probably with your Aries stellium you're a highly competitive and energetic person, so you rock the boat very naturally. People will almost always have strong reactions to you probably too. The one thing I am certain of is that energy needs an outlet; it has to be exhausted. So I'm not sure if you have a thing or two to just pour yourself into passionately, relentlessly, but I do know that helps. It takes the edge off slightly.
Dunno if that makes sense.

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23
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posted March 30, 2009 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, I can't comment on what FB is like as I don't have an account there and thus have never talked there. It could simply be trolls, it could be that maybe a certain personality type that happens to be sensitive or the type that looks for a fight goes on there.

I can only comment on what I've seen on you here and I guess I ditto MVM's comments about being a highly spirited person that maybe competitive. In relation to what may have happened on LL and elsewhere where this may have occurred, it may be a combination of how you say things and people's self-esteem. You are by nature an honest and direct person. You seem to be someone who is confident and comfortable with themself and someone who focusses on self, some may call that self-love and a desire to know and explore oneself, others may call that self-centred.

The truth or at least, a direct opinion can be very threatening to people. Some comments that you say about yourself may be construed as arrogance by "weak" people and may arouse anger and jealousy in them because they may feel that you are trying to dominate them with your comments or trying to show off, when in fact you might be just giving a frank opinion, which may also be even more aggravating given the "polite" English/European etiquette (move to Holland Lara! ). Humans are by nature very self-centred and competitive, you may trigger that in them. Humans don't like others taking the spotlight from them. This might be happening to you on FB as well as in life in general. I'm sure everyone has a story on here of some of the things you may have gone through, it's just unfortunately human competition/resentment/ego etc.

As for how to (partially) "resolve" this problem, well it maybe simply how you put things really. I found for myself, it is best not to talk about my achievements and my positive attributes to others. Maybe you think that I'm really denying true expression of myself and that applying that to yourself maybe so but I've reached the point in life that I'm tired of people and noticed that getting attention (whether it's through an amazing projection or expressing of opinions) can get you into trouble and it's just not worth it.

PS Re previous comments on the sisterhood - there is no such thing as the sisterhood. That's a load of cr*p.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 30, 2009 01:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message

Very impressive post, 23.

You get me thinking.

Thank you.

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blue moon
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posted March 30, 2009 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
This isn't the first time I have heard of complete nastiness on facebook. It amazes me that people over 30 don't have better ways to spend their time, quite incredible.

The non-cyber friend who told me all about a similar incident also complains about the attitude of other women. However justified or otherwise are her complaints, there is no excuse for this kind of childish behaviour (i.e ganging up on facebook).

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posted March 30, 2009 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
HSC - thanks

Well FB I think really is prone to bullying from what I know. I think a lot of people get online to track down people they once knew, eg school, so they can emulate bad environments again with the other person in order to put them down and to (re)create bullying. There's endless cases of FB reigniting abusive relationships. Very unhealthy website IMHO, resurrects karmically dead relationships or brings to life "unnatural" ones if that makes sense.

However, given that it is "open" in that people do seem to use their real name on there, that you'd think that might deter people from bad behaviour.

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Lara
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posted March 30, 2009 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ahhhh 23, you said something which now l realise WHY most people on here all think i'm a LEO!!

You said " "I focus on self"

This is interesting. In my real life l probably focus on myself 5% of my 24/7. The reason you see it on here, l have just realised, is because you have to look at my day. I'm with my kids ALL day and any evening that i'm on LL...

so, of course l wanna focus on me!!!! LOL
It's the only time l get to do something for myself, although l have to admit that most of the time i'm on here i'm also on the phone dealing with and listening to other people's problems and solving them for them.

LL is the only place in my life that l do focus on me! LOL
Now i totally get why every one thinks i'm so self-centred.
Thanks for that 23

btw, l couldn't be less self-centered if l tried in life!! I really dislike it being about me, which is why LibraLove and his innane comments **** me off so much

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Lara
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posted March 30, 2009 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ps. i definitely agree and my friends always tell me i'm way too nice and way too honest

BM, agree although it enables me to keep in contact with many friends abroad.

Anyway, in public i should only take out a homeopathic dose of myself it seems the thought of which makes me feel constricted. I guess as adults we need to learn to fit ourselves into boxes.

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posted March 30, 2009 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Ever think maybe youre a virgo rising with uranus in the 1st? my friend with uranus in the 1st first seems aquarian at times. its a shame you cant find out for sure.

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posted March 30, 2009 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well you have a Leo DC. The way you relate on here in particular is by looking at self. For example, with posts, you comment about yourself, I've noticed you don't really talk to others about themselves. If you look at my posts, I tend focus on the other and swing back to myself sometimes - Libra DC. Hope you don't think what I said was offensive btw.

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posted March 30, 2009 03:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
What is the one quality people have always described you as?(REMEMBER back to when you didnt know astrology and be honest with yourself) if youre a aquarius rising, this one will be easy.

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Lara
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posted March 30, 2009 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
23,

yeah i do focus on myself on here but you have to remember that i'm with midgets 24/7 and i have little time so i'm selfish and l just wanna do what l wanna do when i'm on LL.

I don't have the time to get embroiled in someone else's chart/lifestory because that's all that happens in my real life.

LL is the only place i can be selfish. You dig?


Writesomething - l don't know.. impossibly independent? self-sufficient? too much?

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 30, 2009 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting about the DC, 23. I always wondered if we do flip to that from time to time, because I've seen it and found myself exhibiting it from time to time.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 30, 2009 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

Well, the thread was just locked...

But I wanted to thank you very much for this:

quote:

I concur yet again with HSC... this is becoming a habit!!
This whole thing is bullsh1t cos everyone is guilty and everyone is criticizing, myself now included.

There is a LOT of immaturity on this forum and a fair deal of people who bring their personal baggage in the form of relating too.

I think that it is not fair though to make HSC the BULL and the rest of you the Matadors! I think your treatment of HSC is shameful to be honest, not that l care what anyone thinks, but l have been on this forum now for 3 yrs and l see it all the time in drips and drabs.

Maybe you should ALL (myself included) start seeing the positive in HSC instead of focuses on the negatives which you blow up out of all proportion. HSC is a man of truth and who are we to ay that is wrong? He has also apologized which l don't see anyone else doing....

So can we all now just lie in the beds we've made and get on with it!!!


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Lara
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posted March 30, 2009 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
MVM, IQ was telling me about how we switch AC/DC too. It seems to work for me. Do you see yourself switching in various situations?

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Lara
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posted March 30, 2009 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey you are welcome HSC. It's my truth of all of this and i'm not afraid to stick my head above the parapet and tell it as it is!!!!

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posted March 30, 2009 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
An admirable quality, to be sure!

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23
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posted March 30, 2009 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, in no way do I criticise how you focus on yourself Clearly you need a bit of "me time", which is very understandable. I got into astrology to explore myself firstly and I was solely interested in my chart but now I just love tinkering with other people's charts, they are like treasure boxes to me and I have the time too.

MVM - well, yes I think we can flip between them. DC is how we tend to relate to others in a one-on-one situation. AC is maybe what your project when you first meet someone and maybe even what you see of a person you know when you see them walking down the street or what you see in a stranger when they approach you or you see them in a street. Sometimes you can see it people you know well. Still it comes out in people you know well too. However I do think we do flip between them, I certainly do but that is probably heightened by the fact that my Moon sits on my DC and other planets in my chart on this axis.

I think with Lara that she exhibits a Leo DC but is Aqu rising but everyone might see her as a Leo.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 30, 2009 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Oh ok, good to know then.
Thanks 23 & Lara

I'm a Taurus rising.
I don't know if I display the Pluto side - mainly I do in very close relationships because I don't feel comfortable showing that side of myself 'out there'.
I sometimes wonder if it comes out though. It ties in to my Mercury very closely by a conjunction, and I tend to want to sink my teeth into people I've known a long time when I am angry with them. But the Taurus side makes me hold it in and smile for a really long time to hide it. The more I care, the more I hide it, the bigger the eventual explosion and the deeper bite

I'm thinking of my ex-husband who was a Pisces rising and I could TOTALLY see the Virgo side of him after we married. And he has NO planets in Virgo, or even anything 6th house. But by GOD could that guy nitpick, criticize, and just become totally obsessed with the little details... such as HAIRS ON THE LAWN after it's been mowed



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posted March 31, 2009 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
MVM - re your ex, well as mentioned before, a person's Sun can exhibit the negative qualities of the opposite sign. So for your Piscean Sun ex, he would exhibit negative Virgo qualities, which you expressed.

You must somehow or sometime exhibit your Sco DC. Maybe you don't see or don't want to show it, which is what you expressed. The fact that you hide it indicates Sco, don't you think? ...as well as verbally (Merc) sinking (Sco/Sco DC) into them...

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posted March 31, 2009 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Just a quick suggestion -

I think if Facebook is really just kept to friends and friends of the family (rather than 1000 people you don't know) then the problems with being deleted would probably end completely.

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Lara
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posted March 31, 2009 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Well this is the problem... i DO know all these 1000 people!
They are ALL REAL LIFE friends whom l have made over the last 20 years of traveling and living.
I make friends extremely easily and with a tool like FB it's easy for old friends to find you and good friends to stay in touch with you.

They are ALL friends but when l write on their walls then people l am not friends with see and l guess they don't like my confident manner and l threaten them, 3rd party.

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posted March 31, 2009 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
23, yes, I've heard of the shadow/negative theory, it makes perfect sense. He was Pisces rising though. Capricorn sun. Yeah, exhibiting the negative forms of a Cancer for sure (safety and security-oriented....no matter the price). But the Virgo side of the details was prominent too.

"The fact that you hide it indicates Sco, don't you think?"

After I wrote that, I realized it. Pretty funny actually.
I don't find it a 'nice' side of myself. I would call it the shadow aspect; it creeps up and creeps me out. I don't want to disown it or anything - I try very much to integrate it within myself so that it's not about hiding so much, or negative when it comes out. It's a challenge.

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posted March 31, 2009 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I'm always shy to write on the Facebook wall, makes me feel like I am peeing in public for some reason or something


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posted March 31, 2009 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
Lara - that seems so strange to me. I can't imagine someone being attacked and deleted just because they are confident - especially repeatedly.

The world is a strange place.

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posted March 31, 2009 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message
MyVirgo ~
I sort of understand that feeling I do comment on my friend's walls occasionally, though.

I use my LiveJournal for the more personal and private stuff, though.

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